Erdogan Preparing Turkey For 2023 - Unfinished Business With Saudi Arabia!

[Saif al-Arab]

Foreigners and their obsession about Arabs. I likewise would be obsessed about the cradle of civilization and a region of the world (Arab world) that has shaped their peoples, countries, religions, languages, cultures etc. so profoundly.
I understand why say Iranians (aside from historical reasons) are obsessed about Arabs when they are outnumbered on all fronts and always will be but I did not know that some Turks suffered from a similar disease.

Should those people not worry about freeing all of Central Asia from Russian influence and improve the basics in those resource-rich dictatorships rather than obsessing about internal Arab affairs as if they were Arabs themselves? Highly hilarious behavior if you ask me.

Especially as none of their daydreams will turn into reality and when 99,99% of all Arabs are against it.

If just we Arabs could give them as much attention as they are giving us.

Yet to meet an Zionist that is this obsessed about Arabs as some users here from those two neighboring countries. Quite an achievement.

I wonder if someone will ever publish an academic paper about this phenomenon and what caused it.

Alas. Got to go. Moderators sleeping as usual. What is new in other words?

I, we / this opinion is not asking for much. All I am asking for here is for self rule, rejecting the desires of Turkey's ruling party, or any neighbor such as Iran to rule over us(Iraq), Syria, or influence other Arabs. It's not too much to ask for is it? Yet I will surely get blasted by foreigners, I do not hate Turkey or Iran. I solely believe that they are not fit to rule Arabs, Arabs will rule themselves.

It's a joke that this has to be explained. Although this soft approach does not work with Erdogan, all he knows is strength which is the only thing he accepts as he's sort of an iron-fist ruler, not as much as Saddam but he lies in the same category.

Yes, how dare we. Erdogan should save us all instead haha. The Georgian should rule us all. Let us all hail the AKP party (modeled on an Moroccan party, speaking about Arabs).

 

[Timur]

I'm not thinking, i'm seeing him sending troops into Syria, forming a force and planting Turkish flags everywhere. Making use of a chaotic situation to exert his influence in a tiny canton where he was able to do so.

lol whats your problem you had no problem when bombs and suicide attacks happened in turkey wich came from syria.. now you complain about our right to go there and secure our border..

I blame erdogan for not being hard enough! I would be much harder against the threats coming from this soil..

we are the only ones giving this contons now a future hospitials, post stations, security

Foreigners and their obsession about Arabs.

lol the confused guy.. you think to warn others from holes in the earth is a obsession..

you really are like a donkey with your opsession not to turn on your brain..

if iranians are obsessed with arabs than in negative way.. most ppl just show you that you are not the cradle of civilisation you are a reflection of a movie and then the worst part of it => "game of thrones".. you gulfies really fly high with your nose.. nobody is shaped by your arab nationalism.. you had nothing before islam.. and islam did not come to you it came to humanity.. you would be just some desert ppl and nobody would have even know about you except some bbc documentary.. the prophet would have give ppl about nationalism and tribalism a harsh answer.. so much about that arab words in turkish persian and so on.. they are there because of respect and love for the quran..

but lol I am talking to a narcistic guy.. who maybe fleed from a hospital because of a psychological disorder
I give you one excample why do turks or iranians mostly not marry any arabs? specially why would a turkish father never give his daughter away to an arab? think about that.. (even europeans warn ppl of not marrying an arab)

 

[Saif al-Arab]

lol whats your problem you had no problem when bombs and suicide attacks happened in turkey wich came from syria.. now you complain about our right to go there and secure our border..

I blame erdogan for not being hard enough! I would be much harder against the threats coming from this soil..

we are the only ones giving this contons now a future hospitials, post stations, security




lol the confused guy.. you think to warn others from holes in the earth is a obsession..

you really are like a donkey with your opsession not to turn on your brain..

if iranians are obsessed with arabs than in negative way.. most ppl just show you that you are not the cradle of civilisation you are a reflection of a movie and then the worst part of it => "game of thrones".. you gulfies really fly high with your nose.. nobody is shaped by your arab nationalism.. you had nothing before islam.. and islam did not come to you it came to humanity.. you would be just some desert ppl and nobody would have even know about you except some bbc documentary.. the prophet would have give ppl about nationalism and tribalism a harsh answer.. so much about that arab words in turkish persian and so on.. they are there because of respect and love for the quran..

but lol I am talking to a narcistic guy.. who maybe fleed from a hospital because of a psychological disorder
I give you one excample why do turks or iranians mostly not marry any arabs? specially why would a turkish father never give his daughter away to an arab? think about that.. (even europeans warn ppl of not marrying an arab)

There we have it guys. A typical representative of the average Turk in Europe. Anatolian villager mentality, lack of education, knowledge etc. Believes that he is relevant despite not being it. Delusions of grandeur. At full display. Go to sleep little boy. You do not matter. You never mattered my Turkified and Arabized Anatolian.

Go educate yourself about history. Arabia has a far richer pre-history and ancient history (much older civilizations) than anything found in Turkey or Iran. Let alone all the other regions of the Arab world. During the Islamic era Arabs from Arabia ruled the Caliphate for 1000 years and shaped it more than any other people in the Muslim world (by far). Created bigger empires in the Islamic era than any other people in history other than the short-lived Mongol empire and a few European empires that can be counted on 3 hands. Try harder, troll.

Yes, you have been influenced by Arabs on all fronts but you reduce it to a few words, lol.

Yes, as if an Arab would ever marry a foreigner from the region, lol. You know nothing about Arabs. It's looked down upon to even marry a foreigner to begin with and you talk about Arabs wanting to marry Turks and Iranians. Many Arabs won't even marry outside their clan or tribe, lol.

Whenever Arabs marry with foreigners it is 99,9% of the time men that marry foreigners. Arab women very rarely marry any foreigners. Even those living in Europe.

 

[Species]

Syria/Yemen vs Najd (origin of Saudi family,) “He saws said ‘Allah swt bless the people of Syria, Allah swt bless the people of Yemen.’ We (Sahaba) asked, ‘What about Najd?’ Whereupon He was silent.”

He was not silent. He replied "There (in Najd) will occur earthquakes, trials and tribulations, and from there appears the Horn of Satan."

Some Saudi historians are now trying to suggest Najd as a place somewhere in Iraq.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

He was not silent. He replied "There (in Najd) will occur earthquakes, trials and tribulations, and from there appears the Horn of Satan."

Some Saudi historians are now trying to suggest Najd as a place somewhere in Iraq.

Another cretin. Najd means highland. There were 100's of historical "Najd regions" in the Arab world. Nor is that hadith authentic. Half of them are pure nonsense to begin with and contradict the Quran.

Arabia is the most blessed region in the Quran and ahadith.

I suggest that you focus on tiny Bangladesh and your own issues as you TOO are completely irrelevant. Most of your people in my country are cleaning toilets or driving females around (soon they will become jobless which is a good thing). Go worry about your own tiny and irrelevant entity (throughout all of recorded history and today).

If an Arab saw some foreigner with a big mouth lecturing him or her or meddling, the end result we all know about. This is why the idiotic Arab-obsessed trolls on PDF are some of the most funny creatures that you can find. They are only good at barking online. In the Arab world or elsewhere (West) they are dealt with easily although most of their compatriots are wannabe-Arabs so they are meet with pity or ridicule regardless.

The best medicine against those creatures is to completely and utterly push them away from you. Make they obsess about other peoples, regions etc. of the world instead so we can be free from them. If insults help those creatures being pushed away from us, this should be used in person as well. They are a liability anyway.

Not a freaking single Arab user on PDF (in all the years that I have been here) has ever meddled in internal matters of Bangladesh. Not a single Arab is lecturing Bangladeshis. Not a single Arab is occupied about Bangladesh. Yet we have 2-3 Bangladeshi trolls here on this section doing nothing else along with hordes of other Arabized foreigners.

 

[The SC]

There we have it guys. A typical representative of the average Turk in Europe. Anatolian villager mentality, lack of education, knowledge etc. Believes that he is relevant despite not being it. Delusions of grandeur. At full display. Go to sleep little boy. You do not matter. You never mattered my Turkified and Arabized Anatolian.

Only the prophet was Arab!the rest should have not existed..

lol whats your problem you had no problem when bombs and suicide attacks happened in turkey wich came from syria.. now you complain about our right to go there and secure our border..

I blame erdogan for not being hard enough! I would be much harder against the threats coming from this soil..

we are the only ones giving this contons now a future hospitials, post stations, security




lol the confused guy.. you think to warn others from holes in the earth is a obsession..

you really are like a donkey with your opsession not to turn on your brain..

if iranians are obsessed with arabs than in negative way.. most ppl just show you that you are not the cradle of civilisation you are a reflection of a movie and then the worst part of it => "game of thrones".. you gulfies really fly high with your nose.. nobody is shaped by your arab nationalism.. you had nothing before islam.. and islam did not come to you it came to humanity.. you would be just some desert ppl and nobody would have even know about you except some bbc documentary.. the prophet would have give ppl about nationalism and tribalism a harsh answer.. so much about that arab words in turkish persian and so on.. they are there because of respect and love for the quran..

but lol I am talking to a narcistic guy.. who maybe fleed from a hospital because of a psychological disorder
I give you one excample why do turks or iranians mostly not marry any arabs? specially why would a turkish father never give his daughter away to an arab? think about that.. (even europeans warn ppl of not marrying an arab)

Too much ignorance in one post.. you just made a synthesis of your thoughts, education and brain patterns..

 

[Species]

Another cretin. Najd means highland. There were 100's of historical "Najd regions" in the Arab world. Nor is that hadith authentic. Half of them are pure nonsense to begin with and contradict the Quran.

Arabia is the most blessed region in the Quran and ahadith.

I suggest that you focus on tiny Bangladesh and your own issues as you TOO are completely irrelevant. Most of your people in my country are cleaning toilets or driving females around (soon they will become jobless which is a good thing). Go worry about your own tiny and irrelevant entity (throughout all of recorded history and today).

If an Arab saw some foreigner with a big mouth lecturing him or her or meddling, the end result we all know about. This is why the idiotic Arab-obsessed trolls on PDF are some of the most funny creatures that you can find. They are only good at barking online. In the Arab world or elsewhere (West) they are dealt with easily although most of their compatriots are wannabe-Arabs so they are meet with pity or ridicule regardless.

The best medicine against those creatures is to completely and utterly push them away from you. Make they obsess about other peoples, regions etc. of the world instead so we can be free from them. If insults help those creatures being pushed away from us, this should be used in person as well. They are a liability anyway.

^^I can now get a hint about Ayame Jahiliyyah, previously only read in books.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

^^I can now get a hint about Ayame Jahiliyyah, previously only read in books.

Yes, you should read some books about the Arab world (cradle of civilization). A very good idea indeed. It would improve your lacking intellect.

Until then I suggest worrying about not being swallowed up by the rising sea levels and what to do with the millions of Bangladeshis that will be kicked out of the GCC along with other hordes of non-necessary people.

Too much ignorance in one post.. you just made a synthesis of your thoughts, education and brain patterns..

It's normal among his segment of donkeys in Europe. He loves to display his stupidity in public.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

lol whats your problem you had no problem when bombs and suicide attacks happened in turkey wich came from syria.. now you complain about our right to go there and secure our border..

I blame erdogan for not being hard enough! I would be much harder against the threats coming from this soil..

we are the only ones giving this contons now a future hospitials, post stations, security

Turkey is the country that was the main fueler in burning Syria back in 2011, the main entry point for weapons and terrorists (jihadists) into Syria was TURKEY. Therefor don't complain about such results. I even had this talk with a Turk (AKP) voter in the Netherlands a few weeks ago, he stated this and he brought it up that it was Turkey's doing.

Hospital, candy, chocolate, security in a tiny canton that SOLVES IT ALL LOL

 

[UzaySan]

ı dont know why you guys argue something with this stupid guy. He is enough stupid to claim that ottoman is an arabian empire.Just let him alone in his dream world

 

[Saif al-Arab]

ı dont know why you guys argue something with this stupid guy. He is enough stupid to claim that ottoman is an arabian empire.Just let him alone in his dream world

Great English. Great made up quotes. Great ability to argue against my factual points in this thread (prior to this troll-infested page on this thread).

Go back to having delusional dreams of ever being relevant in the Arab world and Arabs worshipping you.

 

[Timur]

There we have it guys. A typical representative of the average Turk in Europe. Anatolian villager mentality, lack of education, knowledge etc. Believes that he is relevant despite not being it. Delusions of grandeur. At full display. Go to sleep little boy. You do not matter. You never mattered my Turkified and Arabized Anatolian.

go fart somwhere else I know my heritage... I could also say barfooded desert man "something about camels" tries to act educated.. you do not know anything about my education and my background..

Too much ignorance in one post.. you just made a synthesis of your thoughts, education and brain patterns..

no just some insults and stereotyping in combination with mocking about... because of too much time on the internet.. I really just dont like that saif guy

beside that it does not fit your worldview.. that may be the reason for your comment.. but I take it as a show of good will and some good behaviors .. that you have not used abusive language which I sometimes use for the other guy..

It's normal among his segment of donkeys in Europe. He loves to display his stupidity in public.

man you rally love donkeys


ppl are thinking some random youtube videos are reality.. you guys are really like those "parania annunaki the world will be doomed"-youtube guys.. this is just a youtube video about the thoughts of someone who dreams alot..


also our friend lives in his own world sometimes maybe of my bad feelings I respond to him.. he is really hardcore uneducated or hardcore braindead in fanatism to an idea


but the critics about SA have a point that is undeniable.. if you are not able to criticize SA or your own regime (many ppl from totalitarian regimes or monarchy cannot reflect because they lived their whole life in this regime) than thats not my fault

It's normal among his segment of donkeys in Europe. He loves to display his stupidity in public.

mr sandman can you please enlighten me and show me the faults?

Turkey is the country that was the main fueler in burning Syria back in 2011, the main entry point for weapons and terrorists (jihadists) into Syria was TURKEY. Therefor don't complain about such results. I even had this talk with a Turk (AKP) voter in the Netherlands a few weeks ago, he stated this and he brought it up that it was Turkey's doing.

Hospital, candy, chocolate, security in a tiny canton that SOLVES IT ALL LOL

it solves our interest.. pls tell me what did SA do for them? except warmongering jihad..

yeah turkey also send a plane to be shooted.. you live in dreamworld if you thinks its such easy soulution to just blame turkey because tourists turning into terrorists.. but you guys never ask or complain about other countries from wich these "terrorists" came from.. your argument has been dealt with many time by other turkish members here..

also I love the akp talk of you both , but if you would know me you would know that I am no akp lover


but for now I am done with that daif al arab guy..

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Turkey is the country that was the main fueler in burning Syria back in 2011, the main entry point for weapons and terrorists (jihadists) into Syria was TURKEY. Therefor don't complain about such results. I even had this talk with a Turk (AKP) voter in the Netherlands a few weeks ago, he stated this and he brought it up that it was Turkey's doing.

Hospital, candy, chocolate, security in a tiny canton that SOLVES IT ALL LOL

Meanwhile tiny Jordan hots as many Syrian refugees (almost) as Turkey. Tiny Jordan with a population that is 10 times (almost) smaller, an economy many times smaller as well and a land mass much smaller too yet you don't see a single Jordanian bragging about it, lecturing others or other Arabs doing it.

Millions of Syrians live in KSA as well. Almost 2 million reached KSA since 2011. None are treated as refugees. All have free education and healthcare. They are officially designated as "Arab brothers in distress". Yet we have foreigners barging here. Just as Palestinians have had ever since 1947. Yet you don't see a single Saudi Arabian bragging about it. People do not even mention it because we see it as something natural.

Just like how KSA hosted 100.000's upon 100.000's of Iraqi Shia Arabs from the South who escaped across the border during the uprisings in the South in the early 1990's, despite many of those people being pro-Iranian Mullah regime. One such person is a user here on PDF @Malik Alashter . He can tell.

Same story with Lebanon that has hosted millions of Palestinians and now hosts 1-2 million Syrians.

Yet if you listen to some Turkish users here, it's like they are doing something totally extraordinary and barking against Arabs while not even knowing the basics.

 

[Timur]

Go back to having delusional dreams of ever being relevant in the Arab world and Arabs worshipping you.

one point I have to say before I go to bed and than its enough:

you have descriped your main psychological problem many times better than anyone could do

 

[Saif al-Arab]

go fart somwhere else I know my heritage... I could also say barfooded desert man "something about camels" tries to act educated.. you do not know anything about my education and my background..



no just some insults and stereotyping in combination with mocking about... because of too much time on the internet.. I really just dont like that saif guy

beside that it does not fit your worldview.. that may be the reason for your comment.. but I take it as a show of good will and some good behaviors .. that you have not used abusive language which I sometimes use for the other guy..



man you rally love donkeys


ppl are thinking some random youtube videos are reality.. you guys are really like those "parania annunaki the world will be doomed"-youtube guys.. this is just a youtube video about the thoughts of someone who dreams alot..


also our friend lives in his own world sometimes maybe of my bad feelings I respond to him.. he is really hardcore uneducated or hardcore braindead in fanatism to an idea


but the critics about SA have a point that is undeniable.. if you are not able to criticize SA or your own regime (many ppl from totalitarian regimes or monarchy cannot reflect because they lived their whole life in this regime) than thats not my fault


mr sandman can you please enlighten me and show me the faults?



it solves our interest.. pls tell me what did SA do for them? except warmongering jihad..

yeah turkey also send a plane to be shooted.. you live in dreamworld if you thinks its such easy soulution to just blame turkey because tourists turning into terrorists.. but you guys never ask or complain about other countries from wich these "terrorists" came from.. your argument has been dealt with many time by other turkish members here..

also I love the akp talk of you both , but if you would know me you would know that I am no akp lover


but for now I am done with that daif al arab guy..

Yes, the Arab world still remains the cradle of civilization, Arabia still has a much older recorded pre-history, ancient history, older civilizations etc. than Turkey, Arabians still had much more influential dynasties in the Islamic period (by far most influential which the reality shows very clearly), created the largest empires, ruled the Islamic caliphate for almost 1000 years etc. You can close the eyes all you want to those facts, wannabe steppe man.

KSA, let alone Arabia, let alone the Arab world, is several times larger than your country. KSA alone is 3 times larger. The mountainous areas in KSA are larger than your entire country put together. Half of your Central Asian Turkic states (the only genuine ethnic Turkic nations in the world genetically = although I know that you will ignore this scientific fact and live a lie as this fits with your nonsense about Arabs, haha) are deserts. The other steppes. Which is why Arabia has 2 times the people alone.

Now I will try for the 100th time. You are still a foreigner. Your opinion still does not matter anything. 99,99% of all Arabs still don't care about your nonsense and do not want anything to do with your likes.

Let us hope that you will get it now.

one point I have to say before I go to bed and than its enough:

you have descriped your main psychological problem many times better than anyone could do

Listen Turkified and Arabized Anatolian villager, you are still irrelevant. So why are you wasting your time? Do you think that any sane Arab is ever going to take your nonsense seriously? Anyway luckily we cured you from your Arab-wannabe behavior. Now you can join the other imaginary wolves here and leave us alone.

The only one that has any psychological problems are your likes who are meddling in Arab affairs that you have nothing to do with. You are the ones that need to seek help.

Thank you very much.