Erdogan: Era of bowing to Western pressure is over

[PeaceGen]

source : http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/07/erdogan-era-bowing-western-pressure-170725135359270.html

Erdogan: Era of bowing to Western pressure is over
Turkish president accuses West of manipulating his country, saying he will not back down in feud with Germany.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said the era of a submissive Turkey bowing to every Western demand is over.

Erdogan's comments came on Tuesday as top European Union officials held talks with Turkey's foreign minister in Brussels.

"The West wants Turkey to do, without question, whatever they want ... I am sorry to say that Turkey no longer exists," Erdogan said.

Turkey has been mired in an escalating diplomatic row with Germany after the arrests last week of a group of human rights activists, including a German national, over terror-related charges.

Earlier, a German-Turkish journalist was arrested for allegedly spying and aiding Kurdish rebels.

Erdogan on Tuesday refused to back down in the feud with Germany, saying: "They don't want us to retaliate while their agents run around freely."
EU membership

Turkey's long-standing bid for EU membership remains in the deep freeze and show no signs of thawing.

It applied to join the EU three decades ago, and it started negotiating in 2005. But of the 16 negotiating chapters on issues as varied as capital movement and food safety, only one - science and research - has been provisionally closed.

Turkey's Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu and EU Affairs Minister Omer Celik met with EU foreign affairs chief Federica Mogherini in Brussels on Tuesday.

Their meeting agenda included Ankara's EU accession, immigration, Turkey's demands for visa-free travel for its citizens, the fight against terrorism and energy and trade ties.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/07/erdogan-era-bowing-western-pressure-170725135359270.html

my reply to it (drafted and posted first at forums.marokko.nl) : http://forums.marokko.nl/showthread.php?t=5574359&p=132680742&viewfull=1#post132680742

Vandaag 20:59#18vredefan at forums.marokko.nl (peacefan at defence.pk forums)
This one, folks, is *dead*simple.. The guy (Erdogan) and the rest of the Turkish people and leaderships, are completely right to do what they announce in this newspaper article.
I've personally seen the kind of rotten carrots the EU and US hand out to Latvia, Ukraine, and now Turkey as well. Some in the West might see this as 'containment', but it's provokation, not just politically but in military terms *as well*.

As gift from the resistance-against-severe-corruption (WW2-Germans type of corruption to be specific), i offer you a video i made of my self and what kind of ethnic bombs are being planted even in my own country and the Brittish and Irish countries,

Right-wing parties in EU forming the primer charge to set off main explosive : ethnic tensions 1of2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASANXh7lsb8
Uploaded 2015-08-25 16:44


Right-wing parties in EU forming the primer charge to set off main explosive : ethnic tensions 2of2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-7QwLlKz3I
Uploaded 2015-08-25 17:05
Disclaimer : for reasons of effectiveness, i can't always share the nagging i do to my own NATO+Israeli camps (political, intel, religious)

 

[PeaceGen]

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http://forums.marokko.nl/showthread.php?t=5574359&p=132680742&viewfull=1#post132680742

and https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/erdogan-era-of-bowing-to-western-pressure-is-over.508876/

 

[C130]

Erdogan has ambitions of being the Caliph of all Muslims. that dream died when his rats failed to take out Syria and Iraq. now Iran has moved into Iraq and Syria. Iran is stronger than Turkey militarily and economically (no sanctions)

I like how Turkey is failing more into authoritarianism. those tourism dollars are going to dry up if he makes an enemy out of the EU.

we should kick Turkey out of NATO and not sell them any F-35s. let'em buy Su-35 or Pak-FA for all I care.

 

[Avicenna]

He's actually right.

Hard to believe about a 100 years ago only, the Ottoman empire existed and because of a series of missteps by the Turks as well as the usual conspiring by Europeans in regards to the Arab revolt. i.e. Lawrence of Arabia, Turkey "evolved" to become what it is today via Ataturk etc...

For the last 100 years its played ball with the West. Most recently of which attempted to integrate into Europe and join the EU.

But at some point it has to end. The Turks arn't welcome. That much is obvious. So Ergodan is calling a spade a spade.

Quite ballsy actually.

 

[Saif-ud-Din Qutuz]

Turkey can now trust Russia rather than trusting a few pu$$y nations, losers who can't fight alone so form groups just like school going boys lol...

 

[!eon]

One coward man as head of state and brave nation would be pussy cat, one right man in right place makes a big difference.
It's really nice to see Turkey got a right man in right place.

 

[SOHEIL]

 

[Georg]

One coward man as head of state and brave nation would be pussy cat, one right man in right place makes a big difference.
It's really nice to see Turkey got a right man in right place.

Muhaha good joke

Erdogan system will collaps sooner or later to all the insulting he did to its own people and the rest of the world...and you naive muslim guys realy belive that russia has forgotten that Turkey shoot down their jets? Putin plays with Erdogan as long as Russian armed forces operate in Syria... the moment they quit he will drop this angry little kid like a hot potato. Russis only play nice as long as the need free movment around Syria
Europe including Russia does not need Turkey but Turkey needs euope...

 

[Hexciter]

Muhaha good joke

Erdogan system will collaps sooner or later to all the insulting he did to its own people and the rest of the world...and you naive muslim guys realy belive that russia has forgotten that Turkey shoot down their jets? Putin plays with Erdogan as long as Russian armed forces operate in Syria... the moment they quit he will drop this angry little kid like a hot potato. Russis only play nice as long as the need free movment around Syria
Europe including Russia does not need Turkey but Turkey needs euope...

Muhaha good joke

 

[Georg]

Muhaha good joke

joke...have you ever took a deeper look at turkey economic numbers who they trade with and from were most tourist visitors come that makes the biggest chunk of turkey economy? Do it and laugh again... if the EU pull the trigger Turkey economy will collaps within a year if EU would like it..and there is nothing this stupid Sultan Erdogan could do against it...

 

[Hexciter]

joke...have you ever took a deeper look at turkey economic numbers who they trade with and from were most tourist visitors come that makes the biggest chunk of turkey economy? Do it and laugh again... if the EU pull the trigger Turkey economy will collaps within a year if EU would like it..and there is nothing this stupid Sultan Erdogan could do against it...

You can't, you moron!

 

[!eon]

Erdogan system will collaps sooner or later to all the insulting he did to its own people and the rest of the world

He is standing tall, though you can keep and keep hoping and dreaming more for his fall

and you naive muslim guys realy belive that russia has forgotten that Turkey shoot down their jets? Putin plays with Erdogan as long as Russian armed forces operate in Syria...

The moment Turkey realized the trap set by NATO for Turkey, Erdogan contacted Putin and Putin is not kid. He also understood that trap.

Europe including Russia does not need Turkey but Turkey needs euope...

Turkey don't need Europe even like a penny. Don't include Russia with you. Europe biggest fear is Russia. Russia and Europe were never on same page and will not be ever. You have the world biggest alliance against Russia. Don't make fool of yourself.

 

[Baybars Han]

The more announcements erdogan makes like this the more votes he gets from the uneducated villagers who cant read and write

 

[My-Analogous]

The more announcements erdogan makes like this the more votes he gets from the uneducated villagers who cant read and write

It is your internal matter but i would like you to ask what educated Turks did for past 60 years?

 

[Azadkashmir]

It is your internal matter but i would like you to ask what educated Turks did for past 60 years?

Bow down to white master jews, and grovel for european union acceptence however The usual reply was your a turk a muslim. Sokozy mentioned few time about turkey not to be part of euro union. Then germany which picks at turkey too. When turkey says enuff to the bully then the armenian genocide card is pulled out.

Lol they say we are white-christian nations hahahah if jesus was here he be deported back to the middle east for being too brown or black. This is not to say that there are not any decent europeans but governments are under usury bankers and media is controlled including education so you have nations that have warped thinking and brainwashed.