Enforced Disappearances in Pakistan

[hussain0216]

ISI seems more interested in OnlyFans these days.



I can bet you have never actually met a Baloch in your life. Did it ever cross your mind to maybe speak to one. Ask that person if they do actually support either of what you claim?

If the Baloch are seditious, does that mean PTI is also? Because your military said the same about Imran Khan and his party.

Come on then, answer it.

I have met Baloch, admittedly not many


Not many Baloch in UK or Kashmir, or if they were I didn't know them



The ones I met were fine,, normal Pakistani people


It's SIMPLE
We have a problem with terrorism,, some of our people are DONKEYS like the tribals
Fassadi, backwards, ignorant, poor understanding of history,, poor understanding of citizenship or the need to pay taxes and not just demand rights etc etc


They are quick to violence and terrorism



I can understand different points of view,, I even respect the right to discuss history and separation,, even if I disagree



BUT these people want society to stay still,, they refuse any development
create fassad all the time, stop road building, economic development or activity
they support terrorists and spread propaganda and are the fuel for terrorism and separatism


they live behind human rights activists and bullshit,,


Pakistan cannot have this fassad forever,, we need to develop for the sake of 230 million people


I understand the issue with the PTI,, I have been a long term IK supporter




But we MUST stop this terrorism and fassad coming out of these areas causing needless death, destruction and halt to development and life




The choice is simple we kill them or they kill us
I rather we kill them and try to develop society over their bones

 

[Dalit]

I have met Baloch, admittedly not many


Not many Baloch in UK or Kashmir, or if they were I didn't know them



The ones I met were fine,, normal Pakistani people


It's SIMPLE
We have a problem with terrorism,, some of our people are DONKEYS like the tribals
Fassadi, backwards, ignorant, poor understanding of history,, poor understanding of citizenship or the need to pay taxes and not just demand rights etc etc


They are quick to violence and terrorism



I can understand different points of view,, I even respect the right to discuss history and separation,, even if I disagree



BUT these people want society to stay still,, they refuse any development
create fassad all the time, stop road building, economic development or activity
they support terrorists and spread propaganda and are the fuel for terrorism and separatism


they live behind human rights activists and bullshit,,


Pakistan cannot have this fassad forever,, we need to develop for the sake of 230 million people


I understand the issue with the PTI,, I have been a long term IK supporter




But we MUST stop this terrorism and fassad coming out of these areas causing needless death, destruction and halt to development and life




The choice is simple we kill them or they kill us
I rather we kill them and try to develop society over their bones

You will be fighting against separatists for a very long time to come. The generals and politicians don't have the ability to talk.

 

[Neelo]

BUT these people want society to stay still,, they refuse any development
create fassad all the time, stop road building, economic development or activity
they support terrorists and spread propaganda and are the fuel for terrorism and separatism

Oh I see…so when people of Gwadar ask to have more share in the development of their own city, why are they branded as terrorists by your military?

Your generals have propped up the Sardars of Balochistan. That’s why Balochistan can’t progress you numbskull…

 

[hussain0216]

Oh I see…so when people of Gwadar ask to have more share in the development of their own city, why are they branded as terrorists by your military?

Your generals have propped up the Sardars of Balochistan. That’s why Balochistan can’t progress you numbskull…

Look Balochistan has traditionally very little development,, RIGHT


so we spend billions trying to kick of CPEC and other development plans

The idea is we build up the infrastructure

Create a stable environment


Attract investment


This then creates opportunity for the locals



But what do our ghairatmand geniuses do?
create fassad, endless donkey protests, blocking roads, giving a idea of chaos that deters investment
at the same time other idiots bomb roads and electric pylons or some rubbish

these are then spread over social media by the human rights activists and supporters



a endless cycle of fassad


We got to stop it, we have to protect the country from these peoples jahilat and backwardness
We must try to create a stable envelope to attract investment


how the hell do you think we are going to change lives of these idiots when we can't attract investment

 

[AlKardai]

When will Pak Fauj start OnlyFans? They have lots of content to share I heard.

OnlyFauj would be a great way to glean money from the tail wagging faujeet populace

 

[Mugen]

No one is enforced disappeared

Do you think security services just randomly waste time and resources picking up random people?


Where their is smoke their is fire

These people are either terrorists or supporters of terrorists and separatists



Let the security services do their job and hunt these people down,, don't care about courts ,, I. Pakistan that is a waste of time

Just get rid of them
Get any and every last bit of information out of them
Then dispose of them

After destroying Pakistan like they have done recently and terrorising ordinary Pakistanis, and picking them up just because they support IK, yes, I firmly believe they pick up random people. You must be blind to not see this.

 

[WarKa DaNG]

Last year my brother was tracking a TTP operative who escaped from KPK CTD custody, the militant was directly responsible for killing of 83 LEA personnel including 27 beheadings. The reason he joined TTP was, during operation his home was targeted with mortar strikes which killed his wife, children, parents, siblings while he was in Peshawar running a tea shop. First he went to FC to apprehend the responsible person but they told him the jurisdiction lies under the army then he went to the battalion HQ but they arrested him and tortured him, stripped him naked and told him how dare he tells them what is wrong and what is right. After getting released he joined TTP for the revenge and the rest is history.

 

[hussain0216]

After destroying Pakistan like they have done recently and terrorising ordinary Pakistanis, and picking them up just because they support IK, yes, I firmly believe they pick up random people. You must be blind to not see this.

No

They have a reason to pick up PTI supporters,, I get it, don't get me wrong I hate it, but I get what they are trying to do


They don't have endless resources to pick up anyone for no reason

They are picking up terrorists, separatists and their supporters

THAT IS ESSENTIAL AND NEEDED
no Pakistani should oppose this unless you want endless terrorism and bomb blasts

 

[hussain0216]

That's because before the Baloch we were cheering on the sepoys when they were disappearing and selling Pukhtuns, afghans and Islamists...eventually they came after you and I.

Your making excuses for terrorism

That's why the tribal areas and areas of Balochistan are such a backwards dump of jahilat because THE LOCALS AND OTHERS MAKE EXCUSES FOR TERRORISM


But the local idiots suffer the most and everyone knows they support the terrorists,, so they have these pointless protests that everyone in the world ignores

You will be fighting against separatists for a very long time to come. The generals and politicians don't have the ability to talk.

Talk about what????

You want to talk to the enemies of Pakistan???

No,, fight

Use the resources,, the ISI,the military,, judiciary to tear the lives of these people apart

Throw out every Afghan without a visa or citizenship, look again t Pakistani I.D cards and cancel any suspicious ones


Keep reinforcing the borders,, keep hunting them down and making the lives of their family unbearable


Pakistan is at WAR and we have to fight against these enemies

 

[Mugen]

No

They have a reason to pick up PTI supporters,, I get it, don't get me wrong I hate it, but I get what they are trying to do


They don't have endless resources to pick up anyone for no reason

They are picking up terrorists, separatists and their supporters

THAT IS ESSENTIAL AND NEEDED
no Pakistani should oppose this unless you want endless terrorism and bomb blasts

Reasons... Ya, not very good reason. You think those who support IK are separatist or terrorist?

 

[Menace2Society]

Anyone who doesn't support Sharifs and Zardaris is seen as anti state

 

[Neelo]

Your making excuses for terrorism

That's why the tribal areas and areas of Balochistan are such a backwards dump of jahilat because THE LOCALS AND OTHERS MAKE EXCUSES FOR TERRORISM


But the local idiots suffer the most and everyone knows they support the terrorists,, so they have these pointless protests that everyone in the world ignores



Talk about what????

You want to talk to the enemies of Pakistan???

No,, fight

Use the resources,, the ISI,the military,, judiciary to tear the lives of these people apart

Throw out every Afghan without a visa or citizenship, look again t Pakistani I.D cards and cancel any suspicious ones


Keep reinforcing the borders,, keep hunting them down and making the lives of their family unbearable


Pakistan is at WAR and we have to fight against these enemies

Take your pills.

 

[mudas777]

No one is enforced disappeared

Do you think security services just randomly waste time and resources picking up random people?


Where their is smoke their is fire

These people are either terrorists or supporters of terrorists and separatists



Let the security services do their job and hunt these people down,, don't care about courts ,, I. Pakistan that is a waste of time

Just get rid of them
Get any and every last bit of information out of them
Then dispose of them

Were you working underground that you are missing the events and the news. Every one is terrorist in our country other then our napak army.
Bodies recovered from the ginnery bags and half buried under ground all over Baluchistan are just children playing hide and seek. Brazen killing of Arshad Sharif and disappearance of Imran Riaz is just a pack of lies.
We hated Bangladeshi's as we only listened from one ear and closed the eyes to the factors leading to the 1971 and atrocities, raped committed by our law abiding army.
We almost disliked Bauch's, how dare they can attack our soldiers and forgot about their cries for help. Now reality is drawing on us by looking at the movie when it is replaying back on us in our towns and cities far away from the troubled areas.

 

[MajorMinor]

So now that we're all on the same page that the military does practice this shameful practice, the question is why?

What purpose does this serve?

Is it instilling fear? Or is this something they adopted from their fathers in the British East India company?

There are three ways of doing things:

1 - positive reasoning/dialogue to convince, get convinced or find a middle ground;

2 - negative name calling, shouting matches till the other party is silenced; and

3 - dump the bodies.


Weak choose #2, powerful choose #3
The strong choose #1. But who has time for that. And THAT is the answer to your why.


And by theway, it's Not the military. Well, they are. But for every 100 bodies, military is most likely responsible for 8 or 9. COAS told DG ISI to pick up IK, DG tells Govt, IB and FIA that get PTI leadership, and down the rabbit hole an SHO says, "Well, that lafanga PTI social worker has been getting all the attention from the bachiyaan in my muhallah. Let's nab him while we are at it."

Waderaas, chaudhries, seths, certain business tycoons who everyone knows but will not be named, all have been doing this since a couple of hundred years. The same people become politicians, Police officers, Bureaucraps, Brigidiers and generals. So they continue with the tradition.

 

[Neelo]

There are three ways of doing things:

1 - positive reasoning/dialogue to convince, get convinced or find a middle ground;

2 - negative name calling, shouting matches till the other party is silenced; and

3 - dump the bodies.


Weak choose #2, powerful choose #3
The strong choose #1. But who has time for that. And THAT is the answer to your why.


And by theway, it's Not the military. Well, they are. But for every 100 bodies, military is most likely responsible for 8 or 9. COAS told DG ISI to pick up IK, DG tells Govt, IB and FIA that get PTI leadership, and down the rabbit hole an SHO says, "Well, that lafanga PTI social worker has been getting all the attention from the bachiyaan in my muhallah. Let's nab him while we are at it."

Waderaas, chaudhries, seths, certain business tycoons who everyone knows but will not be named, all have been doing this since a couple of hundred years. The same people become politicians, Police officers, Bureaucraps, Brigidiers and generals. So they continue with the tradition.

Good point