Elon Musk to activate Starlink in Iran

[Hack-Hook]

As the Americans say... freedom ain’t free..

Btw Iranians in Iran,what are the rates for Internet packages and the most common service providers in Iran?

i have 50gb monthly 8mmbit/s for 50000 toman (less than 2 dollar ) from iran telecommunication

 

[QWECXZ]

the standard Starlink service price is now US$110 a month after you buy the dish and decoders for US$599. The Starlink RV option for service in moving vehicles costs US$135, while the top Starlink Business tier that used to go by the name Starlink Premium is US$500 a month with US$2,500 initial outlay, but can deliver speeds of up to 350 Mbps.


well out of range of normal people paycheck

I don't think it would be the same everywhere
Take Netflix as an example. It costs differently from country to country.

I am already paying around $7 to $8 for my 16 Mbps connection, with monthly usage limits. Sometimes when I go over the fair usage limit, I have to pay an additional $3 to $5 on average.
I wouldn't mind paying $15 to $20 for Starlink at all, + an additional $500 - $600 for the receiver and the dish.

 

[Hack-Hook]

I don't think it would be the same everywhere
Take Netflix as an example. It costs differently from country to country.

I am already paying around $7 to $8 for my 16 Mbps connection, with its limitations and monthly usage limits.
I wouldn't mind paying $15 to $20 for Starlink at all, + an additional $500 - $600 for the receiver and the dish.

in brazil its 250 braziliean Real . how much it is i have no idea (it recently become half what it was)

 

[QWECXZ]

in brazil its 250 braziliean Real . how much it is i have no idea (it recently become half what it was)

Also, consider the fact that Starlink will not have offices in Iran and will not offer customer service of any sort.
So, naturally, that would reduce its price in Iran to some extent if it ever becomes available. And they could offer a slower bandwidth. Even 20 Mbps would be pretty good for most uses, particularly for Iranians that are used to slow internet.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Also, consider the fact that Starlink will not have offices in Iran and will not offer customer service of any sort.
So, naturally, that would reduce its price in Iran to some extent if it ever becomes available. And they could offer a slower bandwidth. Even 20 Mbps would be pretty good for most uses, particularly for Iranians that are used to slow internet.

Come on man. You know better how much is involved in the infrastructure and maintenance of satellite internet. 20 dollars per month is very unrealistic unless the users are fighting against mullah regime. In that case it’s free service and equipment.

 

[QWECXZ]

Come on man. You know better how much is involved in the infrastructure and maintenance of satellite internet. 20 dollars per month is very unrealistic unless the users are fighting against mullah regime. In that case it’s free service and equipment.

What kind of extra infrastructure do they need to develop particularly to cover Iran?
If they are going to cover the Middle East, a large part of Iran will be covered automatically, except for Khorasan perhaps.
It's not like they need to send new satellites into space just for Iran.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

What kind of extra infrastructure do they need to develop particularly to cover Iran?
If they are going to cover the Middle East, a large part of Iran will be covered automatically, except for Khorasan perhaps.
It's not like they need to send new satellites into space just for Iran.

A SpaceX launch has an operational cost of about 28 million dollars, a Falcon 9 rocket can easily cost 60 million dollars, and a single Starlink satellite can cost over $250,000. As of January 22. 2022 SpaceX has launched nearly 2,000 Starlink satellites into low earth orbit (LEO). Given the expensive nature of launching satellites into orbit Starlink estimates that completing the satellite constellation could easily cost 30 billion dollars or more.

There is also costs associated with building the ground stations all over the world required to provide signals up to the satellites. This is another huge costs that is often overlooked when talking about Starlink.

Given the high capital costs associated with the Starlink project, SpaceX need to focus their attention to bringing in as much revenue from the service as possible. Overall $110 per month is an incredible value when you realize what is going into the is project to make service possible.

https://turbospeedwifi.com/why-is-starlink-so-expensive-will-the-price-drop/


Plus satellites have a lifespan of about 20 years. They’re not like an endless commodity or resource.

Factor in accidents, downtime, maintenance and the operational costs are too high for cheap subscription.

I don’t know what exactly they ban in Iran (in Pakistan it’s mostly p o r n), but I’m sure the average Iranian would much rather opt for a vpn service than paying 1 trillion tomans for latency ridden, unreliable internet service.

 

[QWECXZ]

A SpaceX launch has an operational cost of about 28 million dollars, a Falcon 9 rocket can easily cost 60 million dollars, and a single Starlink satellite can cost over $250,000. As of January 22. 2022 SpaceX has launched nearly 2,000 Starlink satellites into low earth orbit (LEO). Given the expensive nature of launching satellites into orbit Starlink estimates that completing the satellite constellation could easily cost 30 billion dollars or more.

There is also costs associated with building the ground stations all over the world required to provide signals up to the satellites. This is another huge costs that is often overlooked when talking about Starlink.

Given the high capital costs associated with the Starlink project, SpaceX need to focus their attention to bringing in as much revenue from the service as possible. Overall $110 per month is an incredible value when you realize what is going into the is project to make service possible.

https://turbospeedwifi.com/why-is-starlink-so-expensive-will-the-price-drop/


Plus satellites have a lifespan of about 20 years. They’re not like an endless commodity or resource.

Factor in accidents, downtime, and maintenance and the operational costs are too high for cheap subscription.

I don’t know what exactly they ban in Iran (in Pakistan it’s mostly ****), but I’m sure the average Iranian would much rather opt for a vpn than paying 1 trillion tomans for latency ridden, unreliable internet service.

You do realize that internet over satellite is nothing new. Right?

People in Iran bought hotbird accounts for broadband connections more than 15 years ago.
Hotbird, Telstar, etc. have been offering free satellite channels in Iran since at least 20 years ago.

I don't really get what these operational costs that you talk about are. Whether they want to cover Iran or not, they still have to launch these satellites. And because these satellites are in LEO, they will eventually pass over Iran. So, it doesn't really need more infrastructure if the network has free bandwidth. They can dedicate a small bandwidth to Iranian subscribers, for example.

And whether they include Iran or not, the lifespan of their constellation is not going to change.
It's not like more people use the signal, the sooner the lifespan ends.
Honestly, 20 years is impressive for LEO. I don't think the lifespan of satellites in LEO exceeds 5-6 years. If 20 is true, it's impressive.

About ground stations, why do they need ground stations?
Your dish possibly has the sender and the receiver in itself.
I don't get why we still need ground stations. What do these ground stations do exactly?

As for the price, it's not that much for most subscribers. As I said, I am already paying about $10 on average, some months even more. I would happily pay around $15 to $20 for such a connection.
The main issue is how Iranians are supposed to transfer money to Starlink. Not the cost itself. Maybe only cryptocurrencies like USDT can enable Iranians to do this.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

You do realize that internet over satellite is nothing new. Right?

People in Iran bought hotbird accounts for broadband connections more than 15 years ago.
Hotbird, Telstar, etc. have been offering free satellite channels in Iran since at least 20 years ago.

I don't really get what these operational costs that you talk about are. Whether they want to cover Iran or not, they still have to launch these satellites. And because these satellites are in LEO, they will eventually pass over Iran. So, it doesn't really need more infrastructure if the network has free bandwidth. They can dedicate a small bandwidth to Iranian subscribers, for example.

And whether they include Iran or not, the lifespan of their constellation is not going to change.
It's not like more people use the signal, the sooner the lifespan ends.
Honestly, 20 years is impressive for LEO. I don't think the lifespan of satellites in LEO exceeds 5-6 years. If 20 is true, it's impressive.

About ground stations, why do they need ground stations?
Your dish possibly has the sender and the receiver in itself.
I don't get why we still need ground stations. What do these ground stations do exactly?

As for the price, it's not that much for most subscribers. As I said, I am already paying about $10 on average, some months even more. I would happily pay around $15 to $20 for such a connection.
The main issue is how Iranians are supposed to transfer money to Starlink. Not the cost itself. Maybe only cryptocurrencies like USDT can enable Iranians to do this.

Satellite is just relaying data and that’s why the ground stations are necessary.

As for the rest of your argument bro...
That’s like me going into a Ferrari dealership and telling the salesman he should give me the Ferrari for 100 dollars because it’s just gonna be sitting there anyway..

Anyways, shab e khair.

 

[QWECXZ]

Satellite is just relaying data and that’s why the ground stations are necessary.

As for the rest of your argument bro...
That’s like me going into a Ferrari dealership and telling the salesman he should give me the Ferrari for 100 dollars because it’s just gonna be sitting there anyway..

Anyways, shab e khair.

Then how does Musk want to offer it in Iran?
Obviously, he knows as well as you and me that the government of Iran will not allow them to have ground stations.

You do realize that price is a relative concept and many goods are actually overpriced. Right?
Compare Huawei and Samsung to Apple. iPhone and MacBook are quite overpriced because of branding.
Shab bekheir.

 

[Beast]

The mullahs really need to go. They are doing more bad than good. Getting rid of Islamic republic doesn't mean it's pro western but Iran is really the pillar of Islamic technology progress. They have the talent and manpower but bad management and leadership which hinder the progress of Iran.

The Iran leadership are in denial blaming everything on foreign intervention. Given the widespread of protest. Hardly do with foreign intervention but decades of oppression and abuse by the so strict Islamic practice.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

The mullahs really need to go. They are doing more bad than good. Getting rid of Islamic republic doesn't mean it's pro western but Iran is really the pillar of Islamic technology progress. They have the talent and manpower but bad management and leadership which hinder the progress of Iran.

The Iran leadership are in denial blaming everything on foreign intervention. Given the widespread of protest. Hardly do with foreign intervention but decades of oppression and abuse by the so strict Islamic practice.

That’s for Iranians to decide, not us.

 

[mohsen]

This is inevitable.
Soon smart phones will be linked to satellite internet.
Add to it decentralized networks and applications as well.
Internet censorship cannot remain in place forever.

Yeah, you connect your phone to it's modem on your bag pack and then mount the dish on your helmet. just make sure to stay on open!

 

[rodeo]

Then how does Musk want to offer it in Iran?
Obviously, he knows as well as you and me that the government of Iran will not allow them to have ground stations.

You do realize that price is a relative concept and many goods are actually overpriced. Right?
Compare Huawei and Samsung to Apple. iPhone and MacBook are quite overpriced because of branding.
Shab bekheir.

They don't necessarily need ground stations. SpaceX has been sending satellites with inter-satellite laser links. You can use the system in the middle of the Pacific if you want.

Starlink Business | Maritime

Reliable high-speed internet for businesses, starting at $250/mo. Schedule a consultation or view our buyer's guide.

www.starlink.com

 

[LakeHawk180]

Then how does Musk want to offer it in Iran?
Obviously, he knows as well as you and me that the government of Iran will not allow them to have ground stations.

You do realize that price is a relative concept and many goods are actually overpriced. Right?
Compare Huawei and Samsung to Apple. iPhone and MacBook are quite overpriced because of branding.
Shab bekheir.

So the current version requires ground stations to be within ~500 mile radius of the user. I’m guessing he’s referring to the second phase of the project where the satellite constellation will start using lasers to communicate directly with each other.

They don't necessarily need ground stations. SpaceX has been sending satellites with inter-satellite laser links. You can use the system in the middle of the Pacific if you want.

Starlink Business | Maritime

Reliable high-speed internet for businesses, starting at $250/mo. Schedule a consultation or view our buyer's guide.

www.starlink.com

I don’t think they started using this yet.