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Egypt's Morsi assumes sweeping powers, branded new pharoah

Protesters to Morsy: Roll back your decree or leave

(CNN) -- Egyptians swarmed Cairo's Tahrir Square Tuesday, seeking to revive a democratic groundswell that swept the country's former strongman from power nearly two years ago and demand that the man they chose to replace him respect their wishes.
Protesters waved flags and banners, chanting slogans and calling on President Mohamed Morsy to roll back his decree on presidential powers or resign.
"I now know that the Brotherhood does not work for the nation but for themselves only," protester Abu Eita said, according to state-run Nile TV. "Egypt is not all Brotherhood."
At least one protester died in early clashes with authorities ahead of the massive demonstrations planned Tuesday night, the Ministry of Health said. The opposition Popular Alliance Party said the protester died after inhaling excessive amounts of tear gas.
Protesters are angry with Morsy for his declaration last week that his edicts are beyond the reach of judges in what critics call an unprecedented power grab. A statement Monday night that appeared to at least partially limit the scope of the decree did not seem to salve their anger.
On Monday, his office clarified the edict, saying it only applied to "sovereign matters."
Morsy "did not give himself judicial power" but did provide "immunity for his presidential decisions," said Jihad Haddad, a senior adviser in the Freedom and Justice Party.
He added that "the president himself (is) not immune from judicial oversight," though it wasn't clear in what instances that would come into practice, or if there was anything preventing Morsy from issuing a new decree so this could not happen.
Protesters want to show that "the whole population of Egypt is against" Morsy and his backers, said former Finance Minister Samir Radwan.
Morsy and his supporters in the powerful Muslim Brotherhood movement have defended the policy as necessary to defend the fragile Arab Spring revolution that pushed former President Hosni Mubarak from power and led to the country's first free elections.
On Tuesday, the Brotherhood's official Twitter feed dismissed the protests as underwhelming and said what it described as a low turnout indicated a "lack of support among Egyptians."
Video showed a packed Tahrir Square, with protesters clogging the roundabout and tents filling the grassy area in the middle. There were no official crowd estimates.
The Muslim Brotherhood scrapped its own demonstration to show support for Morsy -- also scheduled for Tuesday -- "to avoid any problems due to tension in the political arena," said spokesman Mahmoud Ghozlan. But the Muslim Brotherhood Twitter feed told opponents to brace for "millions in support of the elected prez."
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Morsy's Freedom and Justice Party is the political arm of the Muslim Brotherhood, the once-banned Islamist movement.
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Morsy's decree Thursday said that judges can't overturn his decisions or interfere with an Islamist-dominated council writing a new constitution.
He also sacked the nation's top prosecutor.
In addition to outbursts on the street, Egypt's judges have reacted. All but seven of Egypt's 34 courts and 90% of its prosecutors went on strike Monday in protest, said Judge Mohamed al-Zind of the Egyptian Judge's Club. He described Morsy's edict as "the most vicious ... attack on the judicial authority's independence."
Edict divides Egypt, unifies opponents
Morsy insists he's trying to protect Egypt's fragile Arab Spring revolution, not accumulate unchecked power. His moves "cemented the process that would create the institutions that would limit his power, define the constitution and have parliamentary elections so that we can say this is a democracy," said Haddad.
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Senior presidential aide Essam El-Erian called concerns about Morsy's edict overblown, blaming the protests on "counterrevolutionary forces" loyal to Mubarak's party. Polls show "an overwhelming majority supporting President Morsy and his decisions," Haddad said Monday.
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But that's not how his political foes -- seen as "heretics" by many members of the Muslim Brotherhood, according to Washington Institute for Near East Policy fellow Eric Trager -- look at the situation.
Amr Hamzawy, who'd been in the now-dissolved parliament, said action is needed to prevent more "suffering" under a president with "sweeping powers," as Egypt had for 60 years under men like Mubarak, Anwar Sadat and Gamal Nasser.
"Morsy is the ... president who has sweeping executive (power), sweeping legislative (power) and ... puts himself above the judicial branch of government," said Hamzawy, founder of Egypt's Freedom Party. "That is a very dangerous mix, which can only lead to a dictatorship."
The rest of the world is watching, too.
Former U.S. diplomat Jamie Rubin said Morsy's edict "brings to mind all the fears that people in that part of the world have had about the Muslim Brotherhood when it comes to democracy."
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The unrest raises new concerns about stability in Egypt, which has gone through two years of protests and turmoil.
"The majority of the people are really suffering, and they were looking forward to some stability," said Radwan, who served under Mubarak as well as in the government that followed him. "I'm afraid that this constitutional declaration has blown it up.

Protesters to Morsy: Roll back your decree or leave - CNN.com
 
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Remember, for all that street strength, the democrats are still a minority. While proclaiming a revolutionary government might be good, unless you are out to make a separate country what you really want to ensure is the establishment of democratic values: individual human rights, freedom of association, expression, and dissent, and limitation of powers between branches of government. You won't get a liberal government but you will get the space to campaign for more support.
 
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Egypt will go turkey way. There will be a moderate govt with liberal islamic value. Secularism is too much to ask for a newly democratic muslim majority country.
 
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Egypt will go turkey way. There will be a moderate govt with liberal islamic value. Secularism is too much to ask for a newly democratic muslim majority country.
Egyptians aren't Turks. Do you really think all Muslims come out of the same cookie-cutter?
 
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Egyptians aren't Turks. Do you really think all Muslims come out of the same cookie-cutter?

No I dont, but egypt is basically a conservative muslim country. The christians there are equally or more conservative than muslims.
Its same as any other south asian country (like India or pakistan) and it will go the same way.

Incase of India and pakistan, the ruling elite that came to power immediately after independence were western educated, and hence imposed best western practices including secularism. (their popularity was such that people will agree to anything they say).

Incase of egypt, its going to be genuine grassroot democracy, and in a conservative society I dont see secularism being voted into the constitution.
 
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A mass protest is sheduled for all the civil and secular power this coming Friday at Tahrir squareand and the Islamists(all Islamist) are planning a protest on Saturday. It is not just stupid of Islamist, but also irresposible. Egypt is on the blink of a civil war and i don't think it is a bad thing. Yes we will suffer today, but that is the only hope for a better future. Islamist are as stupid as Qadafi. They are in power and they are organizing a protest, why in hell ?!!! Egyptians vs Islamists is a clash that will happen eventually, and it seems that it will happen this weekend.
 
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Egyptians vs Islamists is a clash that will happen eventually, and it seems that it will happen this weekend.
See, that's the point you missed, hinduguy. The vast majority of Egyptians are Egyptians first; religion comes second. What else could you expect from the oldest nation on Earth? (China doesn't count since it was unified much later - 221 B.C. - than Egypt ~ 3000 B.C.)
 
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See, that's the point you missed, hinduguy. The vast majority of Egyptians are Egyptians first; religion comes second. What else could you expect from the oldest nation on Earth? (China doesn't count since it was unified much later - 221 B.C. - than Egypt ~ 3000 B.C.)
I wish I could romanticize egypt and talk about its golden past and see a reflection of that into future.
I judge it by present, and presently it is very conservative society. I do recognize the difference between 'what I want to see' and 'what I see'.
 
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I judge it by present, and presently it is very conservative society. I do recognize the difference between 'what I want to see' and 'what I see'.
A very important difference to recognize. Sure, Egyptians are conservative. I don't see how you can have a 5,000 year old nationalism without being conservative! I perceive elements of cultural continuity spanning thousands of years. I really don't know which way it will fall but I don't see the Turkish route as a possible course.
 
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A very important difference to recognize. Sure, Egyptians are conservative. I don't see how you can have a 5,000 year old nationalism without being conservative! I perceive elements of cultural continuity spanning thousands of years. I really don't know which way it will fall but I don't see the Turkish route as a possible course.

What cultural continuty spanning thousands of year do you see? Egypt is a semi arabic country, has no cultural similarity with old pharaonic civilization.
In language/religion/custom they are different from past. Are we talking about same country.
 
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The dangers to women seen in this revolution are echoes of pre-Islamic, pre-Christian Egyptian phallic religious events, the willingness to commit to violence after generations of being beaten down is seen even in the Bible, the lack of clarity in the mob of how to proceed to the desired destination (seen in the de-paganizing movement of the 300s), and the prospect of a food shortage compelling even the common folk to think that drastic measures are necessary. Maybe you think these are "universal" human qualities but even if you do then Egypt today is part of that "universal".
 
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today from Cairo Egypt
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Although, I really loath Muslim Brotherhood, but unfortunately, it seems that Egyptians will never understand democracy, they are adopted to the Pharaon style of leadership. Since revolution,Egypt has never witnessed peace and they are now fighting for power on the expense of Egyptian interests. The only loser is Egypt, but they won't understand this.

Egyptians ellected two people, the first one is an another Mubarak and the second one is an MB. Yeh, revolution...!:pop:
 
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Although, I really loath Muslim Brotherhood, but unfortunately, it seems that Egyptians will never understand democracy, they are adopted to the Pharaon style of leadership. Since revolution,Egypt has never witnessed peace and they are now fighting for power on the expense of Egyptian interests. The only loser is Egypt, but they won't understand this.

Egyptians ellected two people, the first one is an another Mubarak and the second one is an MB. Yeh, revolution...!:pop:

revolution will come to jordan

inshallah

today from Cairo Egypt
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inshallah another revolution
 
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