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The first appearance of a portable system to jam IEDs in Sinai

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M134 Minigun.. is that possible?

The only reason why I wouldn't say it's a minigun is if you look at its base where it comes out of the manned turret, it almost looks like a single barrel and then it's encased in that tube, which leads me to believe it's more likely a flamethrower the Egyptian tankers mounted instead of the conventional 50 cal gun or whatever gun they typically use on the M60-A3. They've been burning a lot of cretin grass and huts and things of that sort so it's quite probably. Either way, it's very interesting and thanks for indulging and you could still very well be right, SC, bro. Let's ask a former Israeli tanker and see what he thinks?

@500, what do you suppose that is?

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The only reason why I wouldn't say it's a minigun is if you look at its base where it comes out of the manned turret, it almost looks like a single barrel and then it's encased in that tube, which leads me to believe it's more likely a flamethrower the Egyptian tankers mounted instead of the conventional 50 cal gun or whatever gun they typically use on the M60-A3. They've been burning a lot of cretin grass and huts and things of that sort so it's quite probably. Either way, it's very interesting and thanks for indulging and you could still very well be right, SC, bro. Let's ask a former Israeli tanker and see what he thinks?

@500, what do you suppose that is?

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IDK. Maybe some water or air cooling for a barrel. It would allow fire longer bursts without changing a barrel and exposing urself.
 
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The only reason why I wouldn't say it's a minigun is if you look at its base where it comes out of the manned turret, it almost looks like a single barrel and then it's encased in that tube, which leads me to believe it's more likely a flamethrower the Egyptian tankers mounted instead of the conventional 50 cal gun or whatever gun they typically use on the M60-A3. They've been burning a lot of cretin grass and huts and things of that sort so it's quite probably. Either way, it's very interesting and thanks for indulging and you could still very well be right, SC, bro. Let's ask a former Israeli tanker and see what he thinks?

@500, what do you suppose that is?

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Why are they so close to each others... Since when it's a thing to do when you are Fighting those guys...
 
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IDK. Maybe some water or air cooling for a barrel. It would allow fire longer bursts without changing a barrel and exposing urself.

That makes sense. A cooling casing over the main gun barrel. That would help with the extreme desert heat in the Sinai this time of year.

Why are they so close to each others... Since when it's a thing to do when you are Fighting those guys...

You think they need to space out more than that? People have been commenting that this is finally better spacing than what they've been doing before.

New pics of the brand new Egyptian Air Force VIP transportation aircraft Dassault Falcon-7X.

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You think they need to space out more than that? People have been commenting that this is finally better spacing than what they've been doing before.

There is maybe 4to5m max btw them. I saw other pics recently that are even worse than that, They are out on a deserted road and it's like they are in a traffic jam...
Where is the security protocols out there? it's a fault.
Are they gonna extend the "space" at every "incident" or what...
 
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I agree.. but in time of war anything goes..besides civilian airliners have been downed before for no reason whatsoever.. A Libyan airliner over Sinai, an Iranian one over the Gulf and a Malaysian one or two.. one over Ukraine and one in the pacific..

So in case of war Egyptian Mirage can hide under El Al with destination Tel Aviv ..hit their targets, accomplish their mission and come back under any El AL coming out of Usrael till they reach a safe distance and then split and return to their base..[emoji38]:tongue:[emoji38]
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Egypt and israel are close friends...
Palestine is not a threat even if it by some miracle survives the joint Israel Egypt blockade ...
 
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There is maybe 4to5m max btw them. I saw other pics recently that are even worse than that, They are out on a deserted road and it's like they are in a traffic jam...
Where is the security protocols out there? it's a fault.
Are they gonna extend the "space" at every "incident" or what...

Hey, I agree. It's a legitimate criticism that many of us have been griping about for a while now. But you ask what protocol is out there? I guess there are certain ways they've been dealing with some areas and the types of threats and also the probability of these threats. Most of the major threats they've encountered that they've had the most problems with are not IED's or even ATGMs fired at them, they've been VBIEDs and those are brutally difficult to deal with, but they shouldn't be at checkpoints which is where they've been having a lot of problems. VBIEDs approaching columns is not difficult to avoid, since you just don't allow it to happen except for when you're sharing a major roadway with the civilian population. In that case, it becomes harder of course.

Granted, more spacing will help minimize additional casualties and damage for sure, but they've been able to deal with IED threats very well. There's been several instances where the lead vehicle has spotted threats ahead of the columns and have neutralized them. They've also had a lot less instances of ATGM attacks on them in the last few months because of the success in their clearing out missions and discovering a lot of the stored munitions of these cretins as well as cutting down on the entry of this contraband into the region. They've also killed and arrested A LOT of cretins, putting a heavy dent on their manpower. So the threat itself has diminished exponentially because of the work they've done up to this point.

They're also using UAVs with CAS which has helped them a lot in assessing threats ahead of the columns and infantry. Do they need to spread out their vehicles a bit more? Yeah, I would say it certainly wouldn't hurt them to do so, but it doesn't seem to be a problem and this is better than what they were doing before.
 
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Hey, I agree. It's a legitimate criticism that many of us have been griping about for a while now. But you ask what protocol is out there? I guess there are certain ways they've been dealing with some areas and the types of threats and also the probability of these threats. Most of the major threats they've encountered that they've had the most problems with are not IED's or even ATGMs fired at them, they've been VBIEDs and those are brutally difficult to deal with, but they shouldn't be at checkpoints which is where they've been having a lot of problems. VBIEDs approaching columns is not difficult to avoid, since you just don't allow it to happen except for when you're sharing a major roadway with the civilian population. In that case, it becomes harder of course.

Granted, more spacing will help minimize additional casualties and damage for sure, but they've been able to deal with IED threats very well. There's been several instances where the lead vehicle has spotted threats ahead of the columns and have neutralized them. They've also had a lot less instances of ATGM attacks on them in the last few months because of the success in their clearing out missions and discovering a lot of the stored munitions of these cretins as well as cutting down on the entry of this contraband into the region. They've also killed and arrested A LOT of cretins, putting a heavy dent on their manpower. So the threat itself has diminished exponentially because of the work they've done up to this point.

They're also using UAVs with CAS which has helped them a lot in assessing threats ahead of the columns and infantry. Do they need to spread out their vehicles a bit more? Yeah, I would say it certainly wouldn't hurt them to do so, but it doesn't seem to be a problem and this is better than what they were doing before.

Yes, Criticism seems widely spotted, I found this tweet where same problem is mentioned.


Check the full replies, and You will see that it's a major problem, that Terros widely wait for such opportunities and use it in their media.
 
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Yes, Criticism seems widely spotted, I found this tweet where same problem is mentioned.

Couple of interesting things about our friend Berkowitz, while he dabbles in Sinai and Libya military activities and his stuff is ok, I rarely see him post anything positive. It seems the only Twitter wanna-be journos out there understand the concept of journalism and how it's much more interesting to post the bad news instead of feel-good news. Feel-good news is boring or can be labeled as a mouthpiece, But whatever happened to the balances approach? That's what good journalism and reporting is about, balanced perspective, and if you look at the tweet, he's actually complementing the spacing but he couldn't even help himself and felt the absolute necessity to mention that 7 years into the fighting and 4 months into Op Sinai 18...and then the good spacing lol. But there's so much more to that brief sentence in that the first 6-1/2 years there wasn't any real coordinated fighting. It was mishmash operations and incompetence send to the front line and it wasn't until 4 months ago that they took this thing seriously and to another level and we're seeing a rapid end to this operation pretty soon. So for me, there always needs to be a balanced perspective with the well-deserved criticism, instead of strictly the latter which is what a lot of these gumbastas do. That Egypt Defense Review is also a pain in the *** :lol: I'm kidding of course. While he's on a tear with all the things that are missing and wrong (which is fine,) @Frogman does balance things out once in a while.

As far as this unfortunate event here, this was actually a VBIED that I mentioned earlier and they failed to not only spread out a bit better, but they were stopped for some reason and allowed that car to drive right up to them. Now look at the size of that detonation. That took out 4 Fahds that weren't exactly bumper to bumper, either. And the magnitude of the blast is devastating compare to IEDs which are partially muffled from being partially buried.

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There are also other sitautions of IEDs spotted ahead of columns and taken out with a single shot from a HUMVEE's 50 cal. Another one I'm sure you remember of the M6-AS tank driver who wisely noticed an incoming VBIED and proceeded to drive over the car crushing it and subsequently delaying the blast while the people and other army personnel had time to take cover from yet another devastatingly large VBIED explosion. You remember this one, right?


Look at the ridiculously large size of that explosion and how about that tank driver's reaction and lives he saved?

Balanced perspective is all I care about because it's the right thing.
 
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IDK. Maybe some water or air cooling for a barrel. It would allow fire longer bursts without changing a barrel and exposing urself.
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M1917A1 .30-caliber Water-Cooled Machine Gun

It is not a cooling mechanism for the simple reason that there are similar heavy machine guns on other vehicles in the same picture and they do not use what ever is that on the M-60 tank!

A flame thrower is a possibility though..
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Ramses II prototype (Egypt)


An Egyptian modification of the T-54 using M60A3 components and a 105mm L7 gun.

T-34/100 and T-34/122 (Egypt)



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Egyptian T-34-85s with modified turrets. The T-34/100 was armed with a 100mm BS-3 and the T-34/122 was armed with the 122mm D-30 howitzer.

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Egyptian T-55 armed with a 122mm D-30 on a special turret
 
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Couple of interesting things about our friend Berkowitz, while he dabbles in Sinai and Libya military activities and his stuff is ok, I rarely see him post anything positive. It seems the only Twitter wanna-be journos out there understand the concept of journalism and how it's much more interesting to post the bad news instead of feel-good news. Feel-good news is boring or can be labeled as a mouthpiece, But whatever happened to the balances approach? That's what good journalism and reporting is about, balanced perspective, and if you look at the tweet, he's actually complementing the spacing but he couldn't even help himself and felt the absolute necessity to mention that 7 years into the fighting and 4 months into Op Sinai 18...and then the good spacing lol. But there's so much more to that brief sentence in that the first 6-1/2 years there wasn't any real coordinated fighting. It was mishmash operations and incompetence send to the front line and it wasn't until 4 months ago that they took this thing seriously and to another level and we're seeing a rapid end to this operation pretty soon. So for me, there always needs to be a balanced perspective with the well-deserved criticism, instead of strictly the latter which is what a lot of these gumbastas do. That Egypt Defense Review is also a pain in the *** :lol: I'm kidding of course. While he's on a tear with all the things that are missing and wrong (which is fine,) @Frogman does balance things out once in a while.

As far as this unfortunate event here, this was actually a VBIED that I mentioned earlier and they failed to not only spread out a bit better, but they were stopped for some reason and allowed that car to drive right up to them. Now look at the size of that detonation. That took out 4 Fahds that weren't exactly bumper to bumper, either. And the magnitude of the blast is devastating compare to IEDs which are partially muffled from being partially buried.

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There are also other sitautions of IEDs spotted ahead of columns and taken out with a single shot from a HUMVEE's 50 cal. Another one I'm sure you remember of the M6-AS tank driver who wisely noticed an incoming VBIED and proceeded to drive over the car crushing it and subsequently delaying the blast while the people and other army personnel had time to take cover from yet another devastatingly large VBIED explosion. You remember this one, right?


Look at the ridiculously large size of that explosion and how about that tank driver's reaction and lives he saved?

Balanced perspective is all I care about because it's the right thing.

Spacing is a Problem, that's for sure.
The Sinai events took too many Egyptian life, that's for sure.
Egypt Army could have done a better job, That's for sure.
Is the Sinai better today than it was yesterday, That's for sure.

I understand that many want to see the positive side or at least the Good result, and that is understandable But we have to understand, this isn't some game or every day "normal" news... Young people die everyday BECAUSE of simple rules that wasn't enforced or learned properly, Because of a tactics that wasn't chosen properly by the higher ups...
Egypt is not some Third world Army, that have no Doctrine, No training or no History But with just a better discipline, and the "right" training, We could get way better result and spare the life of many youngster.

IMO, in such events, I'm for a full criticism, if they are "objective" ofc. not just some Insult and such.
As for the Tweet, it was mostly to highlight that many saw such behavior. I also posted answer that was interesting by Egypt Defence review

In Tunisia we had similar problems at the beginning of the Terror fight, around 2013+ and they were showered by criticism that were "limit" to the insult, and that went for months to a year... And nowadays, I think they did listen, even though, there is still a lot of work to do on that matter... and the criticism seems to be no more... And I do regret that...
 
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