Egyptian Armed Forces

[Gomig-21]

any confirmation about which radar this mig got.......?

It's basically the Zhuk-ME. If you really want to question exactly what model Zhuk it is, it's a Zhuk-M(?) but most likely the E. It's a multi-mode pulse doppler radar that has a range of about 110 km in A2A/A2G mode and 300 km in A2S.

If you click and enlarge the first pic, you can see right on the top of the nose between the IRST ball and the refueling probe is the SOAR missile approach warning system (MAWS.)

 

[Gomig-21]

Shalatin replenishing ship recently in Morocco.

Love the square bow on the Ambassador.

 

[Frogman]

Well, despite the fact that mistakes are being made, we also see them preforming well sometimes, in some like confrontations.

In instances where they are very comfortable. Usually when they're on the front foot with much larger numbers and greater firepower.

Which is incidentally when militants are more likely to disengage.

I'm sure the command is gonna do something about it since there was several reports from like officials I think it was one report that I read talking about how the army is planning to make NCOs more professional, not sure about it tho.

They may provide "better" training to their NCO cadres but the root of the problem remains the same. The Egyptian NCO corps remains fragile because it has no real involvement in decision making.

The roles usually reserved for Warrant Officers in the West (who are incredibly experienced) are filled with Officers in Egypt or don't exist at all. Egyptian NCOs have no role beyond administrating troops in Egypt, something which they aren't all that good at either most of the time.

The question is, is the army willing to do anything about it ? Or like is it actually doing anything about it before the situation gets worse.

I would think the situation is already bad enough.

 

[Harpcore_lover]

In instances where they are very comfortable. Usually when they're on the front foot with much larger numbers and greater firepower.

Which is incidentally when militants are more likely to disengage.



They may provide "better" training to their NCO cadres but the root of the problem remains the same. The Egyptian NCO corps remains fragile because it has no real involvement in decision making.

The roles usually reserved for Warrant Officers in the West (who are incredibly experienced) are filled with Officers in Egypt or don't exist at all. Egyptian NCOs have no role beyond administrating troops in Egypt, something which they aren't all that good at either most of the time.



I would think the situation is already bad enough.

I think that they should spend more money on the NCO give tthem more decision making and better education and send them in expeditions with the armies of allied Nations

 

[Gomig-21]

Sweet pic of EAF Rafale and its beautiful frontal shape.

Side by side Gowind & FREMM.

Almost 1200 M1A1 Abrams tanks.

Dangerous men.

Interesting badge for elements of the Thunderbolts, an eagle taking out a dragon!

Air force chief of staff Hamed El Masry.

T-Bolts in Sinai.

BTW, 35 years + 5 days ago on January 25th 1982, the Egyptian Air Force received its first F-16 on its way to becoming the 4th largest operator of the Fighting Falcon.

Apache armed with rockets and hellfires.

Nice pic of Egyptian Naval Special Forces units. These guys have quite the history, especially in 1973 and now they have a lot of tasks assigned to them.

Those same units training with the German built HK-USP 9mm.

I guess the EGY Army is going to be showing a special on the air defenses on it's YouTube channel or something like that. Some stills from that show. Anyone have the video, please post it.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Sweet pic of EAF Rafale and its beautiful frontal shape.

Side by side Gowind & FREMM.

Almost 1200 M1A1 Abrams tanks.

Dangerous men.

Interesting badge for elements of the Thunderbolts, an eagle taking out a dragon!

Air force chief of staff Hamed El Masry.

T-Bolts in Sinai.

BTW, 35 years + 5 days ago on January 25th 1982, the Egyptian Air Force received its first F-16 on its way to becoming the 4th largest operator of the Fighting Falcon.

Apache armed with rockets and hellfires.

Nice pic of Egyptian Naval Special Forces units. These guys have quite the history, especially in 1973 and now they have a lot of tasks assigned to them.

Those same units training with the German built HK-USP 9mm.

I guess the EGY Army is going to be showing a special on the air defenses on it's YouTube channel or something like that. Some stills from that show. Anyone have the video, please post it.

Any news or rumors to upgrade M1's to M1A2's ?

 

[Gomig-21]

Any news or rumors to upgrade M1's to M1A2's ?

I don'think the M1A2 will be available for Egypt any time soon. I think there was some upgrade rumor to the shells as well as the manned turret protection but I forget TBH, and they were nothing really significant. I think @The SC or @Frogman would know more about that. Although I do think that has a lot to do with them deciding to go with the T-90MS route, because the potential of not only having an additional source for tanks besides the US, there's also the flexibility of upgrades that would be restricted otherwise.

 

[The SC]

I don'think the M1A2 will be available for Egypt any time soon. I think there was some upgrade rumor to the shells as well as the manned turret protection but I forget TBH, and they were nothing really significant. I think @The SC or @Frogman would know more about that. Although I do think that has a lot to do with them deciding to go with the T-90MS route, because the potential of not only having an additional source for tanks besides the US, there's also the flexibility of upgrades that would be restricted otherwise.

There were reports for possible upgrades to M1A2.. I have posted the link a few pages back..
Now it is time for an APS for both the Abrams and the coming T-90MSs..

 

[Harpcore_lover]

There were reports for possible upgrades to M1A2.. I have posted the link a few pages back..
Now it is time for an APS for both the Abrams and the coming T-90MSs..

I have read lots of reports stating that Egypt started receiving models from m1a2s starting from the early 2000s and that the current m1a1s are undergoing modernization.

 

[SipahSalar]

USAF marking?

 

[Gomig-21]

USAF marking?

EDIT: The camo on the tail of that first C-130 is actually different from the rest on the Egyptian ones, but unusual desert camo for US C-130's. So the rest of what I said below doesn't really apply in this case now that I noticed the camo.

They're probably ex-USAF C-130's that don't have the numbers removed yet. Sometimes when they're delivering them, they'll keep certain US insignia on them for identification purposes at midway airports that they land at until they arrive to their final destination.

The F-16s for example, they'll paint the Egyptian roundel and tail flag but then put a certain primer over them, then add the US colors until they get to Egypt, then they just remove the colors and primer to expose EGY insignia.

Here's an example of that. F-16 being tested at Fort Worth TX with Egyptian flag on the tail.

Not the same exact jet but when it's being delivered, you can see the tail flag covered with a removable primer.

They usually also add a US star & stripes on the engine nacelles to identify them until they reach their destination. Like all of these being delivered and they're in Portugal for a midway stop. They all have covered EGY flags and US star/stripe on the rear fuselage.

I have read lots of reports stating that Egypt started receiving models from m1a2s starting from the early 2000s and that the current m1a1s are undergoing modernization.

Did you read the last sentence in that report? That was prior to 911 when that was supposedly said.

That's probably the reason why you'll never see an upgrade of that sort, especially depleted uranium armor which is essentially the main upgrade to an M1A2.

 

[The SC]

Chief of Staff of the Egyptian Army inspecting elements of the Second Field Army units in Sinai and the intensive appearance of the Namer armored vehicles and MRAPs

 

[Harpcore_lover]

EDIT: The camo on the tail of that first C-130 is actually different from the rest on the Egyptian ones, but unusual desert camo for US C-130's. So the rest of what I said below doesn't really apply in this case now that I noticed the camo.

They're probably ex-USAF C-130's that don't have the numbers removed yet. Sometimes when they're delivering them, they'll keep certain US insignia on them for identification purposes at midway airports that they land at until they arrive to their final destination.

The F-16s for example, they'll paint the Egyptian roundel and tail flag but then put a certain primer over them, then add the US colors until they get to Egypt, then they just remove the colors and primer to expose EGY insignia.

Here's an example of that. F-16 being tested at Fort Worth TX with Egyptian flag on the tail.

Not the same exact jet but when it's being delivered, you can see the tail flag covered with a removable primer.

They usually also add a US star & stripes on the engine nacelles to identify them until they reach their destination. Like all of these being delivered and they're in Portugal for a midway stop. They all have covered EGY flags and US star/stripe on the rear fuselage.

Did you read the last sentence in that report? That was prior to 911 when that was supposedly said.

That's probably the reason why you'll never see an upgrade of that sort, especially depleted uranium armor which is essentially the main upgrade to an M1A2.

The Egyptian m1a2s Don't have DU plates, DU plates are almost not exported, what happened in 9/11 didn't change anything regarding the US, Egypt relationship, notice that egyptian troops faught side by side during the liberation of Kuwait anyways, Egypt has some M1A2S but it's keep secret.

 

[The SC]

With R-77 and Kh-31

R-77 and Kh-38

 

[Gomig-21]

The Egyptian m1a2s Don't have DU plates, DU plates are almost not exported,

True, my point was just that without the DU armor and the slat armor, it really isn't a true M1A2. The armor is what make it a truly upgraded MBT. All the other trinkets are just modifications IMO. And the amo.

what happened in 9/11 didn't change anything regarding the US, Egypt relationship,

I was saying that the threat that was "allegedly" made against Israel about sending armored units into Sinai was made prior to 911.

notice that egyptian troops faught side by side during the liberation of Kuwait anyways,

If you want to call that fighting. The 4th Armored Brigade that 'participated' in Kuwait ignored most of the orders given to it and delayed flanking maneuvers which drove Schwarzkopf out of his mind. Rumor is that they showed ineptitude on purpose because they had a problem firing and killing their Muslim, Iraqi brethren at the behest of Americans. Their role was mostly symbolic when they were the first to role into Kuwait, to show that Muslims were the ones liberating the cities.

Egypt has some M1A2S but it's keep secret.

If the weapons systems came from Russia, or were ex-Libyan or maybe even Yugoslavian or Serbian, I would believe there is some percentage of chance that there is some secrecy involved. When it comes from any other major European country like France or Italy etc, never. And from the US? In that case, every single nut and bolt is accounted for and publicly announced, which makes the secrecy thing very unlikely TBH.

The only time you'd ever see anything like that from the US is if it's for a special, covert mission that would require these types of deals to be kept secret and there is nothing with the Egyptian M1A1 Abrams fleet that is done in covert purposes.

It would be nice to know if having the bayonet mounted to his Ak-103 was part of the orders from superiors or if this fellow just did it for the photo op?