Egypt rumoured secret submarines: The Sava class SSK

[The SC]

Excerpt from report by Sinisa Lukovic entitled
"Maras selling submarines to Egypt" published by the Montenegrin
newspaper Vijesti on 24 February 2006
Tivat:

Besides buying five Osa I missile boats and several Rubez anti-ship coastal defence missile systems that were previously declared military surplus, the Egyptian Defence Ministry has shown great interest in plans to add non-operational Serbia-Montenegro Navy submarines to
its fleet list.

Vijesti has learned that the Egyptians are prepared to purchase three big diesel-electric submarines - P-821 Heroj, P-831 Sava and P-832 Drava - and they have also shown interest in three small Una P-911 so-called midget submarines and several more Rubez launchers that belong to the 180th coastal defence brigade of the Serbia-Montenegro Navy based at the Milan Spasic barracks in Radovici near Tivat [Montenegrin coastal town]. According to previous estimates, the submarines are worth about 20m euros.

This was one of the topics discussed by Serbia-Montenegro Deputy Defence Minister Vukasin Maras and Egyptian Minister of Defence and War Production Field Marshal Muhammad Husayn
Tantawi during Maras' official visit to Cairo last week. They were discussing "ways to advance the bilateral military and military-economiccooperation".

[Passage omitted: A source close to Maras says that the negotiations with Egypt are progressing well]

One of the key requirements before the Serbia-Montenegro Navy submarines, which are not operational at present, can be sold to the Egyptians, is that they be overhauled and made combat ready, i.e. that they be made ready for combat operations.

The only facility along the eastern coast of the Adriatic Sea capable of this extremely complex job is the Sava Kovacevic naval maintenance facility, also known as Arsenal in Tivat. For 80 years it has been overhauling and repairing submarines.

However, it remains to be seen whether the submarine deal will be forged because the Montenegrin government intends to sell Arsenal to Canadian businessman Peter Munk, who plans to turn the military shipyard into a marina for big yachts. In his offer to purchase Arsenal that has been delivered to the government, Munk gives the shipyard only nine months to complete all current jobs and remove all foreign and national warships from the facility.

During that period it might be possible to complete only the overhaul of the 831 Heroj submarine that is already 90per cent complete. This submarine has been standing on the Arsenal synchro-elevator platform for years.

Another possible problem is the fact that all of the submarines need to have their old, expired
batteries replaced and the new ones need to be ordered and produced by a company in Mrezice, Slovenia.

At present Arsenal is overhauling five Osa I missile boats that are to be delivered to Egypt and the Egyptian Navy has already on two occasions sent its transport ships to deliver from Tivat to Alexandria several Rubez missile systems that have been bought and overhauled in
Serbia-Montenegro, but also spare parts and other military equipment.


Source: BBC Monitoring / Vijesti, Podgorica
http://www.csees.net/?page=news&news_id=50206&country_id=8

* In other reports One was sold to Egypt for 10 million euros

So Egypt Has a secret submarine..that no one knows about!

 

[Mohammed23188]

Interesting , this sub is using SET-65E torpedo .

 

[dani191]

why 100 milion people nation cant make it by herself?

 

[Sineva]

Total bullsh!t I`m afraid.
All of these boats were either scrapped or turned into museum exhibits years ago.

Heres the heroj today,I`d love to see the egyptians get this sea worthy again.

 

[Gomig-21]

Total bullsh!t I`m afraid.
All of these boats were either scrapped or turned into museum exhibits years ago.

Heres the heroj today,I`d love to see the egyptians get this sea worthy again.

My friend, did you miss this important part of the article?

This was one of the topics discussed by Serbia-Montenegro Deputy Defence Minister Vukasin Maras and Egyptian Minister of Defence and War Production Field Marshal Muhammad Husayn
Tantawi during Maras' official visit to Cairo last week. They were discussing "ways to advance the bilateral military and military-economiccooperation".

[Passage omitted: A source close to Maras says that the negotiations with Egypt are progressing well]

One of the key requirements before the Serbia-Montenegro Navy submarines, which are not operational at present, can be sold to the Egyptians, is that they be overhauled and made combat ready, i.e. that they be made ready for combat operations.

So it's not really up to us to make them seaworthy, but to the Serbia-Montenegro defense ministry.
This has actually been in the news for a while but not very prominently like this. Only now have we learned that one of the submarines has already made it to the Egyptian Navy and that is pretty crazy how they can pull this off without hardly anyone knowing anything about it until it comes out in news like this LOL.

* In other reports One was sold to Egypt for 10 million euros

So Egypt Has a secret submarine..that no one knows about!

You won't see it listed in Wikipedia's list of Egyptian Naval assets until maybe now LOL! And at 10 million Euros, take them all or as many as they can get a hold of. Those are very decent subs for that price can play a great secondary role to the Type-209s and maybe even officially retire the Romeos. Good stuff, SC.

why 100 milion people nation cant make it by herself?

You keep bringing this up and we know why. Just stop it because it's happening and not just anyone can build a submarine bing bang boom! lmfao. The day will come as things are moving along currently so no need to keep bringing that up. It will happen, we're only 7 years in from a revolution that changed the entire complexion of the country and look how far Sisi has brought it and the progress he's made internally, economically and militarily. It's unbelievable but some haters only want to look at the negatives and always point to them and always bring them to the front when there are much more positives happening.

 

[The SC]

My friend, did you miss this important part of the article?

This was one of the topics discussed by Serbia-Montenegro Deputy Defence Minister Vukasin Maras and Egyptian Minister of Defence and War Production Field Marshal Muhammad Husayn
Tantawi during Maras' official visit to Cairo last week. They were discussing "ways to advance the bilateral military and military-economiccooperation".

[Passage omitted: A source close to Maras says that the negotiations with Egypt are progressing well]

One of the key requirements before the Serbia-Montenegro Navy submarines, which are not operational at present, can be sold to the Egyptians, is that they be overhauled and made combat ready, i.e. that they be made ready for combat operations.

So it's not really up to us to make them seaworthy, but to the Serbia-Montenegro defense ministry.
This has actually been in the news for a while but not very prominently like this. Only now have we learned that one of the submarines has already made it to the Egyptian Navy and that is pretty crazy how they can pull this off without hardly anyone knowing anything about it until it comes out in news like this LOL.



You won't see it listed in Wikipedia's list of Egyptian Naval assets until maybe now LOL! And at 10 million Euros, take them all or as many as they can get a hold of. Those are very decent subs for that price can play a great secondary role to the Type-209s and maybe even officially retire the Romeos. Good stuff, SC.



You keep bringing this up and we know why. Just stop it because it's happening and not just anyone can build a submarine bing bang boom! lmfao. The day will come as things are moving along currently so no need to keep bringing that up. It will happen, we're only 7 years in from a revolution that changed the entire complexion of the country and look how far Sisi has brought it and the progress he's made internally, economically and militarily. It's unbelievable but some haters only want to look at the negatives and always point to them and always bring them to the front when there are much more positives happening.

These Sava class were build in ex-Yougoslavia which was one of the most advanced countries in the USSR block.. they made the best car in that time the Yougo that was even commercialised in the West and had some success unlike the Russian Lada of those times..So these subs must have the best of what the ex Eastern block had in technologies...being able to reverse-engineer that and mix it with the latest Western available tech on the market .. will be fantastic..

 

[Sineva]

My friend, did you miss this important part of the article?

This was one of the topics discussed by Serbia-Montenegro Deputy Defence Minister Vukasin Maras and Egyptian Minister of Defence and War Production Field Marshal Muhammad Husayn
Tantawi during Maras' official visit to Cairo last week. They were discussing "ways to advance the bilateral military and military-economiccooperation".

[Passage omitted: A source close to Maras says that the negotiations with Egypt are progressing well]

One of the key requirements before the Serbia-Montenegro Navy submarines, which are not operational at present, can be sold to the Egyptians, is that they be overhauled and made combat ready, i.e. that they be made ready for combat operations.

So it's not really up to us to make them seaworthy, but to the Serbia-Montenegro defense ministry.
This has actually been in the news for a while but not very prominently like this. Only now have we learned that one of the submarines has already made it to the Egyptian Navy and that is pretty crazy how they can pull this off without hardly anyone knowing anything about it until it comes out in news like this LOL.

Yes,I have read it and it is clearly bullsh!t as the subs in question were taken out of service YEARS AGO and they were then either SCRAPPED ie cut up into pieces for recycling or turned into MUSEUM EXHIBITS,such as the one in the picture that I posted.
The simple fact is that there are none of these subs left to be sold to egypt,so its not about whos job it is to make them sea worthy.
I`d really love to know how boats that no longer existed made it to the egyptian navy.

 

[Oublious]

I doubt about the capabilities of the Egyptian navy, submarine what are almost 50 years old. Buying and going for overhaul project.

Lets assume Egypt get the sub, how the fak are you going to overhaul, what kind systems are you going to put in? Russian, Chinese and Western?

 

[Gomig-21]

Yes,I have read it and it is clearly bullsh!t as the subs in question were taken out of service YEARS AGO and they were then either SCRAPPED ie cut up into pieces for recycling or turned into MUSEUM EXHIBITS,such as the one in the picture that I posted.
The simple fact is that there are none of these subs left to be sold to egypt,so its not about whos job it is to make them sea worthy.
I`d really love to know how boats that no longer existed made it to the egyptian navy.

Could it be because the article seems to have been published in 2006? Maybe that's why, that this happened quite a while ago and not recently?

Excerpt from report by Sinisa Lukovic entitled
"Maras selling submarines to Egypt" published by the Montenegrin
newspaper Vijesti on 24 February 2006
Tivat:

Do you know that newspaper? Does it usually publish BS or is it reliable? That reporter also works for the BBC, or at least she did since all this stuff seems to date back a while ago.