Egypt Islamists attack Iran’s chargé d’affaires’ house, chant anti-Shiite..

[Abii]

lol @ wahabis

They make IR people and shia religous apes look like the Swiss. Bunch of f'ing apes from sandistan.

 

[Solomon2]

To my knowledge Iran doesn't have an active embassy in Egypt. Shouldn't you Google before asking this kind of questions?

Because Iran' doesn't have an embassy in Egypt, Einstein.

I believe they quietly restored full diplomatic relations one or two months ago. That's why the pestered diplomat has the title "chargé d'affairs" rather than "assistant head of mission": link1, link2.

 

[Uhuhu]

not just Palestine, anywhere in the world we see Injustice we should response, even if we weren't Muslim, still defending innocents is a value.
our goal of supporting Palestinian isn't their support or reward, It's our duty as a Muslim, as a man who believes to judgement day, are you skeptical about God's justice? do you think purpose of creating humankind was to create economy interests, and shutting up when it's not our interest?

are you God dear Mohsen?
First of all prove me they are muslim or you are.
why you never helped or mentioned panachenar in pakistan? how about Muslims in china? Russia? why you are not defending other innocents in the world?
second,It's not your call or decide to sacrifice all interests of a nation for your personal goal. do you believe helping Palestinian is your duty? so you can go to Palestine and join them and fight and give them your money, but you have no right to decide for others or take their money ,interest for your personal goal. you are Trample my and many other people rights. are you skeptical about God's justice?

Imam Ali:
wonder, wonder, I swear this fact tears our heats and brings sorrow and sadness , that they are so united in their wrong path, and you are so dispersed in the right path.

Imam ali respected people and their choice. almost All wars Imam Ali had done were against khawarej who believed to islam and thought they are true Muslims.
Imam Ali was right and said his wish, but it didn't let him to be avoid of fact and reality, Imam ali could help them such as what you called "duty" instead of fighting,

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I was talking about 20th century not stone ages, you think cause their propeller engines have became jet engines, then It has changed their nature too? they act based on their interests, if it require starting another WW, they wont hesitate? you brought India as a example, if this country was placed in middle east with high reserves of oil and gas then I would show you how U.S would tear it apart (you better look at the new middle east map designed by U.S), right now they are nothing but a consumer market, so is the china. as much china becomes more powerful U.S pressures on this country will increase, look how they are using north Korea to expand military bases around china.
also right now Iran is a Forefront for china, same roll have Syria,Lebanon and Palestine for Iran. this is from western strategists, "proxy war" phrase first were used by them, also you should remember they have done this to Iran before, do you have any doubts that western countries supported and encouraged saddam to attack Iran?

That's why i'm saying you should look at your interest and try to be powerful and avoid of put your country in danger if it's unnecessary.Norway has oil, also Canada.
It's not entirely their fault, First it's our fault, If during last 150 years ago we got damaged alot. it's because we were weak. qajar was weak. Iran and japan were two both asian countries who start to develop their countries at the same time, They did and we didn't because we had some stupid kings and leaders who killed important people like Amir kabir. both Iran and japan had wars with russia, iran got defeated and massive lands of iran and iranians like aran ,azerbaijan that were part of iran since iran were exist,thousands years ago, Was occupied. but japan was victory and defeated russia.
If shah were respecting people and our constitution, there would be no need to what mossadegh did, there were no excuse and opportunity for foreigners to stage a coup, also revolution in 1979. as much as they don't respect their people requests and put their country in danger, They give foreigners more opportunity to hurt Them.

There is a proverb that say: charity begins at home چراغی که به منزل رواست به مسجد حرام است
our people need Their money, many places in khuzestan like khoramshahr or other provinces like ilam, kordestan, kohkiloye and ... need that money. as i said the standard of life in gaza is more than these places in iran. They are not muslims? in attention to our Wealth, all our people should living in high standard and all places would be developed, in khoramshahr they even have not good water, and 25 years after war, government still don't rebuild their cities. but they rebuilt whole the south of Lebanon less than two months after war in 2006. are you skeptical about God's justice?

charity begins at home dear mohsen.

 

[RangerPK]

That Middle East region is such a mess. Though, I donno if Iran's passion for the "welfare" of other Muslims is genuine or not, I'm afraid there might be a possibility Iran is just faking it and putting up a good drama, they still might have their empirical aims to colonise the middle east because of their "egos".

Which can be seen when you say Arabian Gulf.

I wonder. If people would be still this much hostile to Iran, if Iran was a majority Sunni country.

 

[mohsen]

are you God dear Mohsen?
First of all prove me they are muslim or you are.
why you never helped or mentioned panachenar in pakistan? how about Muslims in china? Russia? why you are not defending other innocents in the world?
second,It's not your call or decide to sacrifice all interests of a nation for your personal goal. do you believe helping Palestinian is your duty? so you can go to Palestine and join them and fight and give them your money, but you have no right to decide for others or take their money ,interest for your personal goal. you are Trample my and many other people rights. are you skeptical about God's justice?



Imam ali respected people and their choice. almost All wars Imam Ali had done were against khawarej who believed to islam and thought they are true Muslims.
Imam Ali was right and said his wish, but it didn't let him to be avoid of fact and reality, Imam ali could help them such as what you called "duty" instead of fighting,



That's why i'm saying you should look at your interest and try to be powerful and avoid of put your country in danger if it's unnecessary.Norway has oil, also Canada.
It's not entirely their fault, First it's our fault, If during last 150 years ago we got damaged alot. it's because we were weak. qajar was weak. Iran and japan were two both asian countries who start to develop their countries at the same time, They did and we didn't because we had some stupid kings and leaders who killed important people like Amir kabir. both Iran and japan had wars with russia, iran got defeated and massive lands of iran and iranians like aran ,azerbaijan that were part of iran since iran were exist,thousands years ago, Was occupied. but japan was victory and defeated russia.
If shah were respecting people and our constitution, there would be no need to what mossadegh did, there were no excuse and opportunity for foreigners to stage a coup, also revolution in 1979. as much as they don't respect their people requests and put their country in danger, They give foreigners more opportunity to hurt Them.

There is a proverb that say: charity begins at home چراغی که به منزل رواست به مسجد حرام است
our people need Their money, many places in khuzestan like khoramshahr or other provinces like ilam, kordestan, kohkiloye and ... need that money. as i said the standard of life in gaza is more than these places in iran. They are not muslims? in attention to our Wealth, all our people should living in high standard and all places would be developed, in khoramshahr they even have not good water, and 25 years after war, government still don't rebuild their cities. but they rebuilt whole the south of Lebanon less than two months after war in 2006. are you skeptical about God's justice?

charity begins at home dear mohsen.

no, I'm not god, I'm a regular Muslim with many sins, but one thing is clear for me, i wont accept the sin of being silence against injustice. no, i don't want to be punished for a sin some one else has done. this is a duty of every mankind not just Muslims, in judgement day God wont say, OK ,you or them were not Muslims, you are free to go.
it's a difference in ideology between me and you, in my view accepting difficulties for a more important goal is the reason, we have send to earth, every moment of our life is an examination by god, but as it seems in your view we are here to increase our welfare, even if it means closing our eyes to injustice.

your imagination of Iran's help to Palestinian and Lebanon is funny,
you think their food is from your money? No, man. it's UN help, even some of Arab dictators try to cover their silence with their money, I assure you, their food isn't from your pocket.
and we just gave them the missile tech and not the missile itself. but this is what happens when someone fills his mind with west's propaganda, in this imaginary world a destroyed ten floor building can be rebuilt in two months, search for some documentary videos about Lebanon to know what's their real situation, some areas is still infected with cluster bombs, rebuilding can't be talked.

you want to betray the blood of dead people in khoramshahr just for the sake of welfare of alive ones, but in reality your plan just would bring more destroyed cities and dead people in Iran. you don't understand why Israel is created in middle east and that's why you still don't know why western strategists use the term "proxy war", you don't understand the small financial help to Hezbollah is from our defense budget.
comparing some occasional regional conflicts with Palestine's matter shows that you don't have any strategic view at all.

Canada was your most ridiculous example, what is Canada? and where are it's native people? do you know it's government has closed human rights organizations? if you are asking why U.k poppet in Canada have no problem with UK, then I have nothing to say.
if you want to bring an example from west, you should bring Venezuela, if you can explain this one,
they aren't Muslim and they didn't care about a country thousand km away, you think why they have so many problems with U.S, is it Venezuela, who has tried several times to create coup in U.S?

 

[Uhuhu]

no, I'm not god, I'm a regular Muslim with many sins, but one thing is clear for me, i wont accept the sin of being silence against injustice. no, i don't want to be punished for a sin some one else has done. this is a duty of every mankind not just Muslims, in judgement day God wont say, OK ,you or them were not Muslims, you are free to go.
it's a difference in ideology between me and you, in my view accepting difficulties for a more important goal is the reason, we have send to earth, every moment of our life is an examination by god, but as it seems in your view we are here to increase our welfare, even if it means closing our eyes to injustice.

your imagination of Iran's help to Palestinian and Lebanon is funny,
you think their food is from your money? No, man. it's UN help, even some of Arab dictators try to cover their silence with their money, I assure you, their food isn't from your pocket.
and we just gave them the missile tech and not the missile itself. but this is what happens when someone fills his mind with west's propaganda, in this imaginary world a destroyed ten floor building can be rebuilt in two months, search for some documentary videos about Lebanon to know what's their real situation, some areas is still infected with cluster bombs, rebuilding can't be talked.

you want to betray the blood of dead people in khoramshahr just for the sake of welfare of alive ones, but in reality your plan just would bring more destroyed cities and dead people in Iran. you don't understand why Israel is created in middle east and that's why you still don't know why western strategists use the term "proxy war", you don't understand the small financial help to Hezbollah is from our defense budget.
comparing some occasional regional conflicts with Palestine's matter shows that you don't have any strategic view at all.

Canada was your most ridiculous example, what is Canada? and where are it's native people? do you know it's government has closed human rights organizations? if you are asking why U.k poppet in Canada have no problem with UK, then I have nothing to say.
if you want to bring an example from west, you should bring Venezuela, if you can explain this one,
they aren't Muslim and they didn't care about a country thousand km away, you think why they have so many problems with U.S, is it Venezuela, who has tried several times to create coup in U.S?

Look if i wanna answer you, we should Continue page by page and I should reveal our problems here and we both dont like that ( پیش خارجی ها مشکلات و بدبختی هامون، حداقل از نظر من، رو بگیم ) so lets stick in first object and finish the discussion.

my question was clear and your answer also were clear. i said Palestine is not our national interest, and you confirmed it that it's not and If they even insult us or whatever they do against us, you know it as your duty to sacrifices all our national interest for that.

 

[The SiLent crY]

sacrifices all our money, credit,economy for Palestine. because of them we have problem with west and we know each other as enemy, then they sanctioned us.our nuclear issue has effected by this issue and west are very hard against it.
scarifies everything to fingering Israel.
If it's an Islamic goal, then why we have no support from arabs and muslims? and not just they didn't support, they trying to hurt us as much as they can do. 8 years imposed war, almost all of them support saddam. when we are under sanction, instead of helping us ( even secretly), they are Forefront of hurting us. who are Palestinian? part of them are Palestinian Authority and other part is gaza and hamas. the situation and goals of Palestinian Authority is clear, and look at hamas, they are some hotheaded who after all these years getting help from iran, betrayed Iranian government and are sending it's members to fight against syria. if it was early and middle of 80's. i could say we should help them, but after all these years when you see how they are and there is no islamic unity, why you are still thinking to Palestine? all these arabs and Palestinian accept israel as a country except an small group to name hamas that i mentioned how they are. these people hate us.they cried for saddam who killed our best people,They refused iranian bloods.look at this thread :
http://www.defence.pk/forums/irania...an-regime-sending-militias-iran-training.html
many of them think same as what you can read there. they hate us,because you are shia, even if you are not shia, you are iranian and they call you majoos and believe you should die,all of us.
decades ago their regims were nationalist and maybe you could trick yourself and make an excuse for their actions. but now we are watching their Islamic attitude. look at what surenas posted here and also look at syria. being nationalist or Islamic doesn't change what they are and what they think. now you tell me why iran still sacrificing everything for Palestine?

Bro , Palestine , Israel , Nuclear conflict and countless other things are excuses that west ( led by US ) has made to put pressure on Iran . Their problem is our ideology which is a danger for them and their interests .

Just imagine , If the west hadn't tried to stop Iran after the revolution nowadays they would have lost the whole ME to Iran or in other world to it's ideology .

Please don't be that naive , If Iran gives up Palestine , Lebanon , Syria , Nuclear program and etc , they will find another issue to put pressure on Iran .

 

[Uhuhu]

Bro , Palestine , Israel , Nuclear conflict and countless other things are excuses that west ( led by US ) has made to put pressure on Iran . Their problem is our ideology which is a danger for them and their interests .

Just imagine , If the west hadn't tried to stop Iran after the revolution nowadays they would have lost the whole ME to Iran or in other world to it's ideology .

Please don't be that naive , If Iran gives up Palestine , Lebanon , Syria , Nuclear program and etc , they will find another issue to put pressure on Iran .

dear soorena, my friend,
that ideology since first day of revolution claims hostility against Israel and USA forever,why? so what do you expect from them to do? to let us make progress?
which ideology dear soorena? the ideology that gonna be hostile with all others?
ایدئولوژی که پدر مردم خودش رو در آورده؟
I dont believe to the ideology(my mean is not Shia or religion) that never accept others ideologies, we have many common with other powers, we can look at our national interest then choose friends and enemies, and of course that situation shouldn't be forever, you can change it in attention to present time and it's factors, not an ideology that we never can see any tolerance or reform on it.
If you like we can talk more in Iranian Presidential Election thread.

 

[MooshMoosh]

Egypt does not approve Iranians coming to our land to spread shi'ism or do bizarre rituals in Cairo. Second, Iran supports Assad. Egypt will never allow Persians in the country until the regime falls.

 

[Feyen]

Egypt does not approve Iranians coming to our land to spread shi'ism or do bizarre rituals in Cairo. Second, Iran supports Assad. Egypt will never allow Persians in the country until the regime falls.

who cares about your pathetic and illiterate country? only 50 iranians visited egypt. besides, are you so insecure about the faith of your fellow countrymen? oh wait, egypt was one of the largest shia (ismaeli) countries in the history, so that must be the reason why you and other salafis are so scared about the religion. not 1 on the million persians would ever want to visit your backward country.

 

[MooshMoosh]

who cares about your pathetic and illiterate country? only 50 iranians visited egypt. besides, are you so insecure about the faith of your fellow countrymen? oh wait, egypt was one of the largest shia (ismaeli) countries in the history, so that must be the reason why you and other salafis are so scared about the religion. not 1 on the million persians would ever want to visit your backward country.

Egypt was once ruled by Shia shortly during the khalif time and they were overthrown. They won't rule again, I know their plan and Egypt will never let their plan go true.

 

[Solomon2]

Egypt does not approve Iranians coming to our land to spread shi'ism or do bizarre rituals in Cairo. Second, Iran supports Assad. Egypt will never allow Persians in the country until the regime falls.

Egypt's ruling M-B already restored full relations with Iran. So what's your plan now?

 

[MooshMoosh]

Egypt's ruling M-B already restored full relations with Iran. So what's your plan now?

Won't be possible, they suspended the tourist from coming to Egypt until June because Egyptians are protesting over Iran. The Azhar university called to ban Iranians but they will let Shia Egyptians live. It won't be possible it will be worse if they keep allowing Iranians coming here, believe me because Egypt is the only few Muslim country beside Saudi that have large numbers of practical Muslims. Also, no one in the upper parliament support Iran except only one secular National Salvation Front they are the lowest one that no one supports. So MB got no choice but to listen to others or else s**t will go down in Tahrir Square.

 

[Solomon2]

So MB got no choice but to listen to others or else s**t will go down in Tahrir Square.

When do you plan to go, today or Friday?

 

[The SiLent crY]

dear soorena, my friend,
that ideology since first day of revolution claims hostility against Israel and USA forever,why? so what do you expect from them to do? to let us make progress?
which ideology dear soorena? the ideology that gonna be hostile with all others?
ایدئولوژی که پدر مردم خودش رو در آورده؟
I dont believe to the ideology(my mean is not Shia or religion) that never accept others ideologies, we have many common with other powers, we can look at our national interest then choose friends and enemies, and of course that situation shouldn't be forever, you can change it in attention to present time and it's factors, not an ideology that we never can see any tolerance or reform on it.
If you like we can talk more in Iranian Presidential Election thread.

ba ghesmati az harfe shoma movafegham va ghabul daram ke nabayad bad az enghelab tondravi mikardim .

Manzure bande az ideology hamun chizie ke mardom bekhateresh enghelab kardan ke motmaenan tashaioe .

ama ba in harfe shoma ke ma ba abar ghodratha vajhe eshterak darim movafegh nistam , shoma ye negah be tarikhe Iran dar 100 sale gozashte bendazid , tanha chizi ke abar ghodratha anjam dadan khianat va estemar budeo bas .