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Egypt Interested in A400M Atlas?

we can use it as a vacation cruise , imagine having a tan on the mistrals deck , worth the $900 Mil.



thanks , finally somebody mentioned that


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Looks like I never thought of that
 
true not every situation is a "what if" but one does need to be prepared for anything. if you have a missile that does have a range of 100km thats does not mean the missile will travel that distance. 100km is the maximum free flight range of the missile. if you consider a missile tail chasing, then the range is significantly reduced. in todays era of a few countries having stealth fighters then it will be ideal to use a bvraam. you can see the target, the target cant see you, fire away the missile and the target go bye bye. but in the future 10+ years where stealth fighters are more numerous, then this will be reduced to wvraams being the primary platform.

You based your answer on an incorrect assumption. Stealth does not means other can not see you, but rather you are hidden to your target.

The thing of what if, is that you cannot assume a scenario that's best suit your purpose. In deed, if Missile technology unchanged during these 10 years when other country build up their Stealth Stock, MAYBE this will negate the range effect, but what if the seeker technology improve as the number of stealth aircraft increase? I mean, how do you know Missile technology today cannot detect stealth from 100 + KM away?

And also, it's not a matter of tail chasing, rather the missile itself have enough fuel to chase the target at any given range instead, 100KM range is the actual flight time. After that, the missile will simply ran out of fuel and drop off. What I meant was having a missile that can physically engage a target further than a missile that cannot reach that physical, not theoretical level, that itself is an advantage

The thing is, again, one advantage by on party does not negate the other advantage enjoyed by other party. Again, when you talk about the range of attack, you either have them or not. Having stealth aircraft does not mean other aircraft cannot engage you in a longer range....
 
what! your f16's don't have aim120's? i doubt it
with every loan theres interest. so not only is France selling you equipment at very high prices there are also giving you a sour sweet.you have the luxury of not paying in full for them but you have to pay it back and theres interest. so the french are doing you over in two directions.

Egypt refused to sign the CISMOA that's why we're using AIM-7 Sparrow missiles, but Micas ER/IR and Meteors (may be black shaheens too) are included with the Rafale deal and with our Mirage 2000 .. Egypt also will purchase 46 Mig 35 with R-77.

Egypt has made the following deals which cost more than 15 billion $ maybe during just one year .. 100% of them are financed by Egypt .. only the first French deal which included the Rafales, the Fremm and the Gowinds was 50% financed by Egypt and 50% via a credit line from French banks.

France
24 Rafales to be equipped with Meteors, Micas and black shaheens
Fremm frigate (another one under negotiations)
4 Gowind corvettes (negotiations for 3 more)
2 Mistrales
Sagem Patroller UAV to be locally produced in Egypt

Germany
4 German Type 209 submarines

Russia
Ka-52 helicopters for the Mistrales (50 Ka-52 for EAF and 32 Ka-52 K for the Mistrales ..total of 82 Helicopters)
46 Mig 35 (many sources but needs further confirmation like the Mistrales)
S300 VM (Antey-2500)
R-32 Molniya missile boat

USA
20 F16 block 52+ with conformal fuel tanks (4200 km range)
4 Ambassador MKlll stealth missile boats

Spain
13 A400M Atlas tankers (Multipurpose military transport aircraft)
some rumors about the Spanish principe de asturias aircraft carrier that was recently replaced by the Juan Carlos carrier

European sources
NH-90 anti-submarine Helicopters for the Mistrales and the Fremm

I believe Egypt is the only Arab country that is not allowed AIM-120, all other Arab countries have it, SA on their F-15, UAE on their F-16, Kuwait on their F-18, Morocco and Bahrain on their F-16. you get the point.

I think coz all or the majority of them have signed the CISMOA .. Only Egypt and India refused to do that and considered it as a matter of sovereignty.

really!! first jets which i thought was un-nessary as they have 200+ f16's. then they buy a pair of mistral ships from France which is over blown and again unnecessary. and now a400m's France must be doing something to persuade them to buy their equipment.
i know France loaned them money to buy the rafales may be the mistral and the possible a400m order will be purchased via french loans too.

Egypt is working to have more and more long range capabilities .. Rafales, Fremm, Gowinds, Mistrales, F16 Block 52+ with CFT which has an operational range of 4200 Km .. Atlas jets are important to Egypt because they are multipurpose aircrafts which can be used as tankers for our Rafales and the coming Migs

The only other Arab country that didn't get the AIM-120 is Iraq, but that's because Iraq is not a real US ally, however Egypt is an ally to the US.

But Iraq didn't get the AIM-120 because US is reluctant to sell weapons to Iraq anyway, and Iraq doesn't need a modern airforce anyway, but Egypt's situation is different, AIM-120 to Egypt was blocked by Israel, F-15 sale to Egypt blocked by Israel, JDAM sale to Egypt blocked by Israel.

Israel is just fuked up

That's why the most important decision we have taken was diversifying our sources of arms supply .. Mubarak was mainly depending on the US, but they can never be trusted as they are ruled by Israel. Nowadays we're purchasing weapons from Russia, France, China, Spain, Germany (Type 209 submarines) and other European sources beside the US.
 
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lol oh man, that's a drawing, it's not a real photo

What do you say now? Still a drawing? Its an F-16D carrying AIM-120 on under wing station.

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Egypt gone mad f 16 mig 35 mistral rafale fremm now this r they planning for ww3
 
If UAE/KSA/Jordan has them, then we technically have them. :unsure:
It's not as simple as that. You just can't plug any missile on any aircraft. Doesn't work that way.

Damn. You are full of shitt haha. I have no idea what point you are trying to make considering your poor english with your vague attempts at deciphering and counter using my arguments against myself. If for one second you cant stop being a keyboard warrior and actually make an attempt to reply without looking like a moron that would be great.
No one is full of shit other than you, poor English? lmao that's you fuker, i corrected the " doesnt even "having" a proper standing army" for you in my previous reply, go learn English first maybe then you will understand my argument, or maybe you are just too stupid and ignorant to be able to comprehend what i'm saying. I can't help you if that's the case.

Oh not to mention how fuked up was "Libya as example"...but i'm not going to revise all your mistakes...



Egypt operates the latest version of the Sparrow, the semi-active AIM-7P, it has a range of over 80km, Egypt's F-16's don't lack BVR capabilities as someone pointed out, it's more like they lack advanced fire and forget BVR missiles, but their F-16 does have BVR capabilities.[
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Both of you need to stop using foul language.

Thanks!
 

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