EADS Cassidian wants India to be 'full participant' in Eurofighter Typhoon

[tvsram1992]

why only tecnology we are ready to transfer 100 MRCA to you ONLY if Pakistan agrees that the whole kashmir belongs to India only...

Add 51 mirages,100 mki's,Vikramaditya with Mig29k's,Prithvi I,AAD,Aakash SAM,Arjun Mk2 from my side .

 

[Jon Snow]

Developments will be there even for rafale , later rafale radar will outclass that of eft and ....
Do you really think PAKFA comes for $90 million?
Even Super Mki will not come at that price.
Ya IAF needs fast induction .

how will rafale radar outclass that of eft?? Fewer t/r modules(which are all still imported from usa),lesser range, no swashplate ( only 120 degree coverage as compared to eft 200)..... Radar and engine are two areas where the rafale lacks

 

[Omega007]

The Captor E will have 1400 GaN t/r modules and a 200 degree field of view.On the other hand the RBE2 has 1000 GaAs t/r modules.So the Captor E will definately will have a greater range and resolution.Besides the weak Snecma M 88 engines can't provide enough power for a powerful radar.

 

[kingdurgaking]

how will rafale radar outclass that of eft?? Fewer t/r modules(which are all still imported from usa),lesser range, no swashplate ( only 120 degree coverage as compared to eft 200)..... Radar and engine are two areas where the rafale lacks

War is not only AESA radar on the nose of the Fighter... there are others like satellite , AWACS etc... the ultimate need is AESA technology so that we can develop on our own.. Rafale provides the technology from the first batch.. while EFT we cant expect .. there could be delays..

 

[Jon Snow]

War is not only AESA radar on the nose of the Fighter... there are others like satellite , AWACS etc... the ultimate need is AESA technology so that we can develop on our own.. Rafale provides the technology from the first batch.. while EFT we cant expect .. there could be delays..

why would there be delays?? The technology demonstrator has already flown, only a little fine tuning is required and it will be ready for production.....
As for developing further on our own- not so easy- we tried that with the elta 2032 but the mmr is still not ready after so many years. Eft will give us a stronger base for developing aesa - its t/r modules are gan (unlike rafale's gaas) and can handle a higher power rating and eads can give us the tech on how to create them unlike france which has to import its inferior t/r modules from usa and cant provide us with that tech yet

 

[sancho]

why would there be delays?? The technology demonstrator has already flown, only a little fine tuning is required and it will be ready for production.....

Not really, the tech demonstrator they used so far is the CESAR, which is a fixed AESA radar. The demo version of the Captor - E with Swashplate design is planned for first flight in 2013 only and if everythings goes well, the production version will be available from 2015 onwards, but most likely only with A2A modes!

Btw, the same loss of detection power to the outer field of view is available for any fixed AESA, that's why the Pak Fa / FGFA, or the French for Rafale are planning (F22 was planned) with side arrays, which increases the field of view even more. The Swashplate design is just a niche solution, to offer something comparable, but by countering the initial benefits of AESA radars (less mechanical parts, less probability of failures, less operational costs):

Discussing the benefits of the swashplate approach, Bob Mason, Selex Galileo’s executive vice president for marketing and sales, says fixed-array AESA technology suffers performance losses at wide-scan angles. “It’s just a fact of life,” he notes. Canting the antenna to address radar cross-section issues can exacerbate the performance dropoff.

One means of addressing this problem would be to use side arrays. Mason notes that a side array was planned for the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor, but so far none has not been fitted because of the associated expense. The swashplate design, he contends, addresses the same main issues at less cost.

The swashplate employs a “repositioner” driven by electric motors to negate this problem, along with providing other benefits. What still must determined is whether, and the extent to which, the reintroduction of moving components begins to erode the advantages in terms of mean time between failures of mechanically scanned and AESA radars.

Novel U.K. AESA Approach Brings Benefits | AVIATION WEEK


Btw, Germany was against the Swashplate design and prefered a fixed radar design.

its t/r modules are gan (unlike rafale's gaas)

Again, not really! Captor E is aimed to get GaN modules somewhere in future, based on the developments of EADS and Thales, but the first implementation of them are expected in SPECTRA and RBE 2 AESA.

 

[rajusri]

Will we get full transfer of technology for AESA?

 

[tvsram1992]

Will we get full transfer of technology for AESA?

We will be a part in development of aesa radar if eft is selected and yes we will have full access to aesa radars technology.

 

[jha]

Scrap this MRCA nonsense and go for F-35.. We can wait for a few years..

 

[sancho]

Scrap this MRCA nonsense and go for F-35.. We can wait for a few years..

Good to see you back, but this hardly makes sense, because it's against most of the reasons of MMRCA!

- no fast induction and further reduction of operational fighter squads
- no licence production in India
- no ToT
- limited offsets
- more restrictions
- higher costs
- limited aerodynamic performance (according to IAF requirements)
- no customisation
...
...
...