DySP's mob lynching condemned by kashmiris!

[Levina]

include residents of AJK in your biased statistics

Then I will also have to include the Kashmiri Pandits on whom an exodus was forced.

Umer fiaz was killed by Indian army because he was Kashmiri muslim know they are creating anger between entire nation for greater game.

If you are talking about Lt.Ummer Fayaz, then I think I should stop taking you seriously beyond this.
I suggest you better read his father's and family's statements.

Don't quote me to justify your vacuous logic.

 

[salimpheku]

Then I will also have to include the Kashmiri Pandits on whom an exodus was forced.

Read about Girija Tickoo.
What happened to her and what happened to her killers.

People like me have stopped believing these people, especially since her brutal killers are roaming freely in Kashmir and everyone knows who her killers are.

 

[Levina]

Read about Girija Tickoo.
What happened to her and what happened to her killers.

People like me have stopped believing these people, especially since her brutal killers are roaming freely in Kashmir and everyone knows who her killers are.

I have read that case and posted about it on this forum long ago.

 

[Burhan Wani]

Then I will also have to include the Kashmiri Pandits on whom an exodus was forced.



If you are talking about Lt.Ummer Fayaz, then I think I should stop taking you seriously beyond this.
I suggest you better read his father's and family's statements.

Don't quote me to justify your vacuous logic.

Who forced exodus Indian army or freedom fighters? Umer fayaz family is pro hurriat supporters i know them better than any Indian living in Dehli or abroad. Indian army kiiled Umer fayaz because he is a muslim, belong to pro hurriat family and this is the truth.

 

[jetray]

Read about Girija Tickoo.
What happened to her and what happened to her killers.

People like me have stopped believing these people, especially since her brutal killers are roaming freely in Kashmir and everyone knows who her killers are.

Bitta karate still roams around with impunity. These ppl still live in medieval age and think they can bulldoze their way thru in others home.

i know them better than any Indian living in Dehli or abroad

yeah you know every thing.

Indian army kiiled Umer fayaz because he is a muslim, belong to pro hurriat family and this is the truth.

and his aunt came out blazing saying that they are Indians. All that you have to say that we are muslims ,muslims ,muslims ,muslims ,muslims ,muslims ,muslims ,muslims ,muslims................

Would you care to use facts in a discussion instead of loads of self certified crap?

I have read that case and posted about it on this forum long ago.

and these ppl still expect no backlash after that? They still keep playing the victim hood card after perpetrating all the brutal acts.

 

[salimpheku]

and these ppl still expect no backlash after that? They still keep playing the victim hood card after perpetrating all the brutal acts.

This is the truth.
That's why Hindu consolidation is happening at a surprising pace. The opposition has already lost 2019.

 

[Jacob Martin]

I dont have their contact details and never seen the hoards of Kashmirs in the funeral of Pandit Mujahideens althogh , I have seen a lot of converted Pandits , are you referring to them ..... I mean its strange that Pandits are joining an Islamic movement ...

Then I will also have to include the Kashmiri Pandits on whom an exodus was forced.



If you are talking about Lt.Ummer Fayaz, then I think I should stop taking you seriously beyond this.
I suggest you better read his father's and family's statements.

Don't quote me to justify your vacuous logic.

Read about Girija Tickoo.
What happened to her and what happened to her killers.

People like me have stopped believing these people, especially since her brutal killers are roaming freely in Kashmir and everyone knows who her killers are.

The fate of the Pundits is the reason I view the entire Kashmir issue very differently. I am sensitive to the fact that atrocities have been committed by the Army. I don't see anything wrong in demanding that human rights be respected.

However, the claim about innocent Kashmiris who have done no wrong is a detestable lie. A civil rights activist may choose to disregard the stone-throwing, lynching and support for militants. That is their prerogative. But that does not explain what happened to the Pundits. They have been wronged to such an extent that nothing we can do now can set it right. It is not that most of them are interested in going back in any case. Where do they return to? Their neighbours who murdered and raped their family and looted their houses? Who wants to return to that hell?

Anyone who mentions the tragedy of Kashmir without mentioning what was done to the Pundits cannot be taken seriously on account of moral bankruptcy.

 

[Burhan Wani]

Bitta karate still roams around with impunity. These ppl still live in medieval age and think they can bulldoze their way thru in others home.


yeah you know every thing.

and his aunt came out blazing saying that they are Indians. All that you have to say that we are muslims ,muslims ,muslims ,muslims ,muslims ,muslims ,muslims ,muslims ,muslims................

Would you care to use facts in a discussion instead of loads of self certified crap?


and these ppl still expect no backlash after that? They still keep playing the victim hood card after perpetrating all the brutal acts.

UJC denies their involvement in the killing of Umer Fayaz. You are experts on making fake news and propaganda we follow the truth.

 

[salimpheku]

They have been wronged to such an extent that nothing we can do now can set it right

They may not get justice but what needs to happen is to ensure future Pandits don't occur in other parts of India *hint Wb & kerala*

Point is that we are talking about Cow vigilantes who killed 28 people in 8 years and are ignoring the elephant in the room.
If some one wants to do balanced debate, that's a fair game. Coping out on the elephant in the room and trying to hang the rat, yeah, that's a lot of double standards.

 

[M. Sarmad]

I have tried reasoning with people on this a million times here but it feels like I'm banging my head against a wall.

Population of J&K =12.55million
Ppl present at wani's funeral=1000
or wait let me exaggerate it further and make 10,000.
Supporters of Wani in J&K =exaggerated amount of 10000/ population of J&K
= 0.00079%

That is the amount of ppl who support wani on the ground.
That figure I hope will put a lot of things in perspective.
The nationality of Internet users supporting him can not be determined so what you see online is not the REALITY.

Seriously I stilll don't expect you to understand it but atleast I've tried. Lol


Ciao

S.No District. Persons. Male
1) Srinagar. 1250173 665789
2) Ganderbal. 297003 158900
3) Budgam. 755331 400583
4) Anantnag. 1069749 552203
5) Kulgam . 423181 216873
6) Pulwama. 570060 297988
7) Shopian. 265960 136302
8) Baramulla. 1015503 542171
9) Bandipora. 385099 201531
10) Kupwara. 875564 475126


Total Male Population = 3647466

Under 18 = 1350000 (app)



Population of Kashmiri Adult males = 2,297,466

Ppl present at wani's funeral= 200000


Confirmed supporters of Wani in Kashmir who defying the curfew reached Wani's Funeral = 200000/2297466

= Almost 9% of Kashmiri Adults

That is the minimum number of ppl who support wani on the ground.

By comparing percentage of people who attended the funerals, one can conclude that Wani enjoyed a greater support among Kashmiris compared to the support enjoyed by Bal Thackery or even Gandhi among all Indians.

That figure I hope will put a lot of things in perspective.

 

[Crixus]

Its says A(single) , what sense you wants us to make from a single Pandit and other sources also name not more then 4-5 names ......... out of 160000 that means .003125% .... Hindus has nothing to do with an Islamic movement

Hindu Face Of Jihad In Kashmir Killed
27 July 2011
DNA
Ishfaq-ul-Hassan

Srinagar: A Hindu militant commander, who had been fighting alongside Muslim jihadis for 10 years, has been killed by the security forces in a fierce encounter at Gokund area of Renie Nallah in Kashtiwar district of Jammu region. and other sources also say not more than 4-alias Kamran alias Wasif of Razna-Palmar village was the deputy divisional commander of Hizbul Mujhadeen and was operating in Palmar-Dachhan and Marwah areas since 2001. “Based on specific information about the presence of HM terrorists in Gokund area of Renie Nallah, the police and the army launched a search in the area on July 26. On noticing the movement of the forces, ultras fired upon the search party which was effectively retaliated and as a result one terrorist identified as Subash Kumar Shan was killed,” said BS Tuti, SSP, Kashtiwar. Tuti said Subhash was named in seven FIRs, including five murder cases. “He was also involved in the killing of three security force personnel and three civilians,” he said. Subhash alias Wasif joined HM in July 2001 and was currently deputy divisional commander of HM, operating in Palmar-Dachhan and Marwah areas. “He was second in command to Jahangir, the top commander in Kashtiwar. He lives in the area where there is mixed population. He had some Muslim friends who became militants and Subhash too was motivated and he joined their ranks,” said Tuti. The police said his killing is a big boost for the security forces and a big blow to the terrorist organization. “He was a great motivator and on his motivation two more individuals Mohammad Shafi and Reyaz Ahmed of Marwah joined HM ranks recently and are presently active in Marwah area. Wasif was presently busy in recruiting new terrorists from Marwah and Dachhan area and his killing will certainly stop recruitment of new entrants into HM outfit,” he said. It is not the first time a Hindu militant has been killed in Jammu and Kashmir. In August 2005, the army killed Anar Singh, a Hindu special police official-turned-militant in Tengali village in Kashtiwar. In the same year two Hindu militants surrendered before the army in Jammu and the preceding year two others had dropped their guns before the security forces. In 2006, security forces killed Kuldeep Kumar Sharma alias KK alias Kamran, the deputy district commander of Hizb-ul-Mujhadeen for Doda. Sources said money, power and bravado had been driving some Hindu youth to join the militant ranks in Jammu and Kashmir. Confidential documents revealed that over a dozen Hindu militants were active in different parts of Jammu region of which some have been killed.
http://www.jammu-kashmir.com/archives/archives2011/kashmir20110727d.html
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/subhash-kumar-shan-a-top-ranking-hizbul-mujahideen-commander.467000/

Source plrease ?

S.No District. Persons. Male
1) Srinagar. 1250173 665789
2) Ganderbal. 297003 158900
3) Budgam. 755331 400583
4) Anantnag. 1069749 552203
5) Kulgam . 423181 216873
6) Pulwama. 570060 297988
7) Shopian. 265960 136302
8) Baramulla. 1015503 542171
9) Bandipora. 385099 201531
10) Kupwara. 875564 475126


Total Male Population = 3647466

Under 18 = 1350000 (app)



Population of Kashmiri Adult males = 2,297,466

Ppl present at wani's funeral= 200000


Confirmed supporters of Wani in Kashmir who defying the curfew reached Wani's Funeral = 200000/2297466

= Almost 9% of Kashmiri Adults

That is the minimum number of ppl who support wani on the ground.

By comparing percentage of people who attended the funerals, one can conclude that Wani enjoyed a greater support among Kashmiris compared to the support enjoyed by Bal Thackery or even Gandhi among all Indians.

That figure I hope will put a lot of things in perspective.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Then I will also have to include the Kashmiri Pandits on whom an exodus was forced.

Also include the Muslims of Jammu on whom an exodus was forced

Source plrease ?

2011 Census of India

 

[Crixus]

So you believe in Indian census and you missed the increase in population in 5 years (( 2011-2016) ( they grew by 25% between 2001-2011)) years and number of people present for wani are less then 200000

Also include the Muslims of Jammu on whom an exodus was forced



2011 Census of India

 

[M. Sarmad]

So you believe in Indian census and you missed the increase in population in 5 years (( 2011-2016) ( they grew by 25% between 2001-2011)) years and number of people present for wani are less then 200000

Well, that was in response to the stupid post by a jingoistic Indian poster @Levina who likes to throw around mindlessly numbers and stats thinking that it somehow proves her point. 2011 Census was the last official census held in India and is the most reliable source that can be quoted in relevant discussions here.

 

[Crixus]

No prob , I was just wondrin how can we argue on the basis of the numbers of 2011 ... I mean even sane Pakistani cant support the lynching of an official who was just doing his duty

Well, that was in response to the stupid post by a jingoistic Indian poster @Levina who likes to mindlessly throw around numbers thinking that it somehow proves her point. 2011 Consensus was the last official consensus held in India and is the most reliable source that can be quoted in relevant discussions here.