DW: Pakistan on collision course with Iran?

[yavar]

Pakistan is not weak. its very weak.

it exerts little political power outside its own borders, it has very very weak infrastructure and its economy is almost shit.

the state that uses it own Shia population as shield to be used in foreign policy
what call that ". it is very weak."

دیپلمات پاکستان ظفر هلالی سفیر سابق پاکستان در یمن، نیجریه ایتالیا ٕ ایران و شیعان پاکستان به تهدید کرد
Pakistan diplomat Zafar Ali Hilaly former Pakistani ambassador to Yemen, Nigeria Italy threaten Iran and Shia population of Pakistan to be hostage and be used as hostages to get concession for exchange from Iran

Zafar Ali Hilaly Urdu:ظفر ہلالی
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zafar_Hilaly






one thing i would like to put cross to Pakistani members .
while that you threaten Iran with your tactical Atom bomb please and i hope you consider Iran reserve the right to self defence

 

[Blacklight]

"Pakistan is a very poor and weak country that is totally aid dependant on foreign donors, particularly the US and Saudi Arabia which bankroll it's army. Naturally the donor countries, which are hostile to Iran, will exert a degree of influence and pressure on their client. Let's see how far Pakistan will cave in."

Show me these lines from Articles ....Its no where ...Its an Iranian OP own writing..

Shouldn't this be against forum rules?

 

[Arsalan]

This is an absolutely stupid move by Iran and quite clearly it is drived by sectarian disagreements. Iran have ruined an opportunity to make this a true Islamic Alliance. Sad day indeed.

I hope others wont just give and and will keep trying and i pray that Iranian come to there senses as well. We need to get iver with this sectarian seggregation if we are to go anywhere as muslim nations.

 

[Riz]

We are masters in proxy war, if they will ever try to backstabe us, we know how to deal with them, they should learn we already defeated them in Afghanistan when they were aiding northern Alliance along with banyas

 

[yavar]

Pak can crush Iran military in couple of days and your generals does know about this.

will oblate you in couple of hours before even Foge Pakistan can move it missile force
it would take us up to week or max two week to hunt down two of your agosta b submarines after that is all over .


ask some one who is bit informed on mater it will let you know .
reality is far fetched from fantasy

 

[Great Janjua]

the state that uses it own Shia population as shield to be used in foreign policy
what call that ". its very weak."

دیپلمات پاکستان ظفر هلالی سفیر سابق پاکستان در یمن، نیجریه ایتالیا ٕ ایران و شیعان پاکستان به تهدید کرد
Pakistan diplomat Zafar Ali Hilaly former Pakistani ambassador to Yemen, Nigeria Italy threaten Iran and Shia population of Pakistan to be hostage and be used as hostages to get concession for exchange from Iran

Zafar Ali Hilaly Urdu:ظفر ہلالی
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zafar_Hilaly






one thing i would like to put cross to Pakistani members .
while that you threaten Iran with your tactical Atom bomb please and i hope you consider Iran reserve the right to self defence

You have the absolute right to defend your nation but don't think of pakistan as a weak nation that goes against the rules of fighting mate

 

[shahbaz baig]

You're so blinded by your hatred of India that you cannot see the realities.
You think i like seeing our own neighbor weak? Lol are you out of your mind? Even because of our own interests we need a very strong Pakistan to flourish
We need nothing more than a stable neighbor right now.
Stop with this India obsession. Our ties with India is like any other 2 countries seeking their interests. Nothing more nothing less
We don't give a fvck about your animosity with India

ok i am blind.. whatever indian establishment said against pak and officially stated the statements against pak, if you are happy then You will keep close your eyes and i am sure you are blind by ignoring the predictions of Ghazwa e Hind predicted by mohammad P.B.U.H & naimatullah shah wali

 

[Great Janjua]

will oblate you in couple of hours before even Foge Pakistan can move it missile force
it would take us up to week or max two week to hunt down two of your agosta b submarines after that is all over .


ask some one who is bit informed on mater it will let you know .
reality is far fetched from fantasy

Now that's what I call spewing bullshit you stupid Iranians can't even break pots and you want to fight a war. great going mate

 

[Sal12]

The people who hate Pakistan are evidently the Pakistanis themselves, the ones like you who obviously belong to the privileged minority of your country that have absolute contempt for the terrible conditions your fellow citizens have to endure, so much to the point that you deny the very poor conditions that millions of your people suffer under even exist. You are in denial. That is your self-loathing. Do not try to project it onto other people. I would not care at all to engage with Pakistanis if Iran did not have a cross-border terrorism problem with Pakistan. I have no interest in your country other than wanting this problem of cross-border terrorism and crime to be solved once and for all.

Wha

Pakistan is not weak. its very weak.

it exerts little political power outside its own borders, it has very very weak infrastructure and its economy is almost shit.

the health sector is very much struggling and its people are poor. these are mere facts and i'm not saying these to hurt anyone's feeling or as a "revenge" because of yesterday's terror attack. the future ahead of pakistan is not very bright. where there is low security, there is low chance of development

building nukes is from a previous bright era for pakistan which is long gone. many countries in today's world can build nukes if they wish and its not a technological advancement. Nano-tech, Space, bio-tech are the way to the future

the era of brute force is gone. brute force couldn't keep pakistan safe.

its the mentality that needs changing

Than why Iran doesn't build nukes

will oblate you in couple of hours before even Foge Pakistan can move it missile force
it would take us up to week or max two week to hunt down two of your agosta b submarines after that is all over .


ask some one who is bit informed on mater it will let you know .
reality is far fetched from fantasy

You ask someone to educate you and your fake persian pride wont save you from the wrath of the military which is 6th largest of the world, 7th nuclear power and 8th biggest air force of the planet in terms of plane. Hell even Pakistan para military forces are bigger than your entire army.

 

[yavar]

don't think of pakistan as a weak nation that goes against the rules of fighting mate

well the Yemen war will prove to you . As you should know the Raheel Sharif is Chif of Islamic NATO and Pakistan has send 5000 combat troops for Yemen war .
watch show

Yemen conflict: 5,000 Pakistani troops likely to join Saudi-led coalition
Pakistan agrees to send 5,000 troops to US-Saudi aggression

 

[ای ایران]

muslim coalition purpose is to solve ongoing conflict in syria.there are lots of conflicts in muslim world where iran proxy can be clearly seen.how dare you call pakistan weak? we aren't dependent on any country.saudia arabia knows the importance of pakistan army and they requested for our army presence just to safeguard Holy cities.let me remind my iranian friends that pakistan is a sunni muslim state and pakistan have many duties to fulfill.it's pakistan responsibility to safeguard holy places.there are also fantastic muslim armies including turkish,egyptian army.your proxy war and your support to hezbollah clearly shows that you aren't willing to end this conflict.it was pakistan's responsibility to ask whether you want to join coalition by ending your proxies in muslim countries.you said no.now you will see what this coalition can do to your proxies.enough of bloodshed.pakistan don't need permission from tehran for doing anything.we aren't the ones who only speak.we believe in action.there are also reports of your army wanting to get closer strategic relation with india.you called americans KAAFIR.what about india? iran is the same nation who appreciated americans when they lift sanctions on you.forget pakistan.we are capable enough to target enemy inside their territory.sky is the limit.

i would suggest you keep supporting india... and india will keep destabilizing pakistan.. and you will get happiness
and then you will also get horrible war by israel.. and your friend india will help israel against you..

india supported BLA/BRA and JA in pak , most probably Jaishal Adl militant group in iran is also being supported by india...

indian spy Kulbhushan Jadhav network had been operating since 15 years... and iran/pakistan got a gift(terrorism) from india.. Passport of kulbhushan Jadhav was made in india not in iran but as always they found few traitors in muslims.
U.S allowed India to operate in Afghanistan with Indian Agencies.... for what? for good wishes?
india achieved nothing in afghanistan except spreading proxies in pakistan and now in iran bit by bit

These two posts are a great example of the poor level of education clearly prevalent among many in Pakistan. Seriously. Everyone just try to read these two posts word for word out loud to yourselves and you wont be able to keep a straight face. Not only are these posts full of indecipherable paranoia, they are just full on retarded.

Im not saying this to be funny. It is actually disturbing to read things like this from people who arent trolling, but expect to be taken seriously.

I can only imagine the frustration of Iranian diplomats and other officials having to deal with their Pakistani counterparts.

 

[Great Janjua]

well the Yemen war will prove to you . As you should know the Raheel Sharif is Chif of Islamic NATO and Pakistan has send 5000 combat troops for Yemen war .
watch show

Yemen conflict: 5,000 Pakistani troops likely to join Saudi-led coalition
Pakistan agrees to send 5,000 troops to US-Saudi aggression

Why the **** are you scared no one is going to send troops to Yemen as for general raheel sharif may God bless him he has done tremendous things against terrorism mate

 

[Great Janjua]

These two posts are a great example of the poor level of education clearly prevalent among many in Pakistan. Seriously. Everyone just try to read these two posts word for word out loud to yourselves and you wont be able to keep a straight face. Not only are these posts full of indecipherable paranoia, they are just full on retarded.

Im not saying this to be funny. It is actually disturbing to read things like this from people who arent trolling, but expect to be taken seriously.

I can only imagine the frustration of Iranian diplomats and other officials having to deal with their Pakistani counterparts.

You are equally retarded you just wasted 2 paragraphs on the so called retarded answer the nice gentleman gave you but in return you give him a lesson on English.Moving on the sense paranoia is clearly visible in your pervious posts clearly you are the one who is baithed in paranoia and lacking in self esteem mate

 

[shahbaz baig]

These two posts are a great example of the poor level of education clearly prevalent among many in Pakistan. Seriously. Everyone just try to read these two posts word for word out loud to yourselves and you wont be able to keep a straight face. Not only are these posts full of indecipherable paranoia, they are just full on retarded.

Im not saying this to be funny. It is actually disturbing to read things like this from people who arent trolling, but expect to be taken seriously.

I can only imagine the frustration of Iranian diplomats and other officials having to deal with their Pakistani counterparts.

wake up before it is too late....

As it is already stated in my prophet words and i have studied it that there will be khawarijeen fitna and that will support by Jewish

jews are teaching wrong education of Islam especially to Azerbaijani People and to the central asian muslims by using blackwater, U.S policies have been designed by powerful jewish families for long time, and they even have had influence in europe too.

if you take only one jew then only Mr. Kushner’s prominence in the administration is rising. For instance, he set the ambience and agenda for Mr. Trump’s meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping — one bilateral relationship that could define the 45th presidency.Then again, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Joseph Dunford invited him to join him on a tour of Iraq. Mr. Kushner has a finger in every pie. He is involved in the White House policy on China, Mexico, West Asia and Canada. He strategizes on combating the Islamic State. (to fools even people of U.S).

He heads the newly created Office of American Innovation, which has the mandate to implement highly effective private sector practices in government. Mr. Kushner is a senior adviser to Mr. Trump. he could be a broker of peace between Israel and Arabs soon. but for now between Iran & Saudi Arab.

khawarijeen is not KSA. it is ISIS backed by israel.... CIA,MOSSAD,RAW have strong relationship to destroy muslim world one by one
@haman10

 

[Taimoor Khan]

the state that uses it own Shia population as shield to be used in foreign policy
what call that ". its very weak."

دیپلمات پاکستان ظفر هلالی سفیر سابق پاکستان در یمن، نیجریه ایتالیا ٕ ایران و شیعان پاکستان به تهدید کرد
Pakistan diplomat Zafar Ali Hilaly former Pakistani ambassador to Yemen, Nigeria Italy threaten Iran and Shia population of Pakistan to be hostage and be used as hostages to get concession for exchange from Iran

Zafar Ali Hilaly Urdu:ظفر ہلالی
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zafar_Hilaly






one thing i would like to put cross to Pakistani members .
while that you threaten Iran with your tactical Atom bomb please and i hope you consider Iran reserve the right to self defence

For your bold part, Iran use of Pakistani shia population is a tactic which is long term with mixed dividends and repercussions. So when you mention Pakistan threatening Iran with its "tactical nukes" and in return Iran reserve the right to use Pakistani shia population in "self defence", first we don't just owe tactical nukes but strategic ones as well, infact city busting nukes were there decades ago, we can finish nations statehood and their existence specially those who don't have anything to throw back at us, secondly, the use of Pakistani shias is any conflict will have uncertain results which may or may not come to fruitation in years if not then months, while it take Pakistani ballistic missiles barrage armed with nuclear warheads fired on Iran few minutes to end Iran status as a sovereign state.

Bottom line is, in any war gamming, Iran chances of survival are pretty dim.

Having said that, I dont think our missiles matted with nuclear warheads have Tehran and other Iranian cities coordinates fed into them as targets. But just giving you an idea about this wargamming which Iran can never win.