Duterte veers off speech, launches tirade on US killings in front of Obama

[Thəorətic Muslim]

This is better than Floyd Mayweather vs Manny Pacquiao.

 

[Salahuddin Ayubi]

I like this guy. We should invite him.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Loose tongue. He now represents a country, and with it comes responsibility.

 

[ahojunk]

Loose tongue. He now represents a country, and with it comes responsibility.

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Duterte can say what he likes when he is in the Philippines. Their country, their rules.

For goodness sake, he is in Laos attending an international conference.

When he is overseas, he has to be more careful in what he says.

This will reflect very badly on him and will come back to bite him later.

 

[A_Poster]

Obama is the face of American, the person who holds the office of president, and represent it, so if someone is insulting it, infact insulting America itself as a state.

It is just not this one incident, look at the bigger geopolitical picture. America has become its own enemy. From Philippines to Turkey, to grass root levels , the goodwill that once existed for America has long gone. There was a time when questioning America in Pakistan was considered blasphemy and I am witness to that period, how from that extreme we have come to present situation. Tell tail signs are there, signs of a power in decline. America is telling its Anglo Saxon Aussie cousins to choose between China or them. American presence in greater ME is now reduced to Israel. Picking up unnecessary fights with other powers like Russia and China.

USA has lost allies! Where? In Muslim world. It is not even a quarter of the world, and grassroot support here count for crap as Muslim governments are dictatorial or monarchical, and its people brainless drones.

What you are ignoring is that in last five years, USA has hogged more allies since formation of NATO. Whole of East Asia is pro-US and getting more pro-US with each passing year ,including previously sworn enemies like Vietnam. India is getting allied with US shedding its non-aligned philosophy. Anti-US socialists in Latin America are losing elections left and Right. Last half a decade or so has been very good for USA's foreign policy.

 

[TaiShang]

"The Philippine president showed a picture of the killings of American soldiers in the past and the president said: 'This is my ancestor they killed. Why now we are talking about human rights,'" an Indonesian delegate said.

I knew it. President Duterte's sentiment is not necessarily toward US criticism of his clean-up efforts. His sharp diplomatic language is not personally against President Obama.

His target is the US regime. His sentiment is historical, directed toward the continuing, centuries long colonization.

President Obama said this himself recently. He said he did not take the insult personally. He knew the insult was more institutional than personal.

Duterte is attacking viciously at the very heart of the problem: The colonized mindset of the people and bureaucracy which cannot even react properly when their own citizens are murdered by US soldiers on their own land.

As Premier Li Keqiang stressed yesterday at EAS, the least desirable choice is the intervention of third parties in our national and regional affairs.

 

[A_Poster]

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Duterte can say what he likes when he is in the Philippines. Their country, their rules.

For goodness sake, he is in Laos attending an international conference.

When he is overseas, he has to be more careful in what he says.

This will reflect very badly on him and will come back to bite him later.

It is not a case of their country their rules as here another country's head of state is involved. He could say and do anything we want about his own country, but "should" adhere to protocol.

He is behaving like a lot of career politicians behave when among low class street urchin voters. Most of them drop that mode of talk when they have to deal with head of states of other countries; apparently Duerte does not.

I knew it. President Duterte's sentiment is not necessarily toward US criticism of his clean-up efforts. His sharp diplomatic language is not personally against President Obama.

His target is the US regime. His sentiment is historical, directed toward the continuing, centuries long colonization.

He is not tagreting anyone. He has just not shifted out of "street urchin" mode that politicians employ to get low class voted in any democracy. He talks in this way with everyone, apart from dressing like a bum.

You people are mistaking it for a policy shift because you never had democracy so you could know no better.

 

[kadamba-warrior]

It is not a case of their country their rules as here another country's head of state is involved. He could say and do anything we want about his own country, but "should" adhere to protocol.

He is behaving like a lot of career politicians behave when among low class street urchin voters. Most of them drop that mode of talk when they have to deal with head of states of other countries; apparently Duerte does not.



He is not tagreting anyone. He has just not shifted out of "street urchin" mode that politicians employ to get low class voted in any democracy. He talks in this way with everyone, apart from dressing like a bum.

You people are mistaking it for a policy shift because you never had democracy so you could know no better.

I really think the dude is on some quality stuff - the same stuff that he promises to get rid of from his country.

Why else would you pick on the ONE guy who could/would stand by with you in your fight against a well-known bully in the region?

 

[A_Poster]

I really think the dude is on some quality stuff - the same stuff that he promises to get rid of from his country.

Why else would you pick on the ONE guy who could/would stand by with you in your fight against a well-known bully in the region?

He is Kejariwal of Philippines.

 

[Beast]

Your definition of respect is shallow. Obama isn't a strongman dictator that needs to act tough to survive and respond to every single petty insult and slight. If you think this translates to no respect for America, then I ask you why isn't Duterte pushing to remove American troops again? Why isn't he talking about leaving the MDT with the US.

Do you think the pope has lost respect because Duterte called him a son of a whore? Then why would Obama?

Its evident to everybody who has more power at their disposal between Duterte and Obama, and yes, China and America. So who thinks these sorts of petty insults make any difference to the US? Only those far from the levers of power who don't have to personally worry about geopolitical calculations.

Meanwhile there are consequences for his tirades.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...rket-loses-hundreds-of-millions-a7229696.html



http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/06/world/asia/philippines-duterte-obama.html



sure he went down the same route, but that just confirms the point I made earlier, that he can't control himself, even if his outbursts hurt the national interests of Filipinos.

We can outdo you guys when it comes to insulting Obama anyday anyways, and if insults fazed him he would have long ago died in American politics.




Go ahead and crow that the US has lost respect, and then whine and stand on the sidelines the next time the US patrols through the SCS.

Looks like Pinoy is not appreciative of your SCS support. Maybe US shall switch side and support China in SCS issue to stop further humiliation and show your American pride.

 

[艹艹艹]

http://www.news18.com/news/world/philippine-leader-takes-thinly-veiled-dig-at-us-1290824.html

Philippine Leader Takes Thinly Veiled Dig at US
Associated Press

First published: September 9, 2016, 8:02 AM IST | Updated: 5 mins ago

File photo of US President Barack Obama (L) and Filipino President Rodrigo Duterte (R).

Vientiane: Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte took a thinly veiled dig at the United States, complaining that colonizers who killed many Filipinos are now raising human rights concerns with him.

President Barack Obama was among several world leaders who listened to Duterte's brief speech at the East Asia Summit in the Laotian capital of Vientiane.


Obama earlier canceled a meeting with Duterte after the Philippine leader referred to him in comments to reporters as a "son of a bitch" and warned him not to discuss the deaths of thousands of suspects in an anti-drug campaign.

Two Philippine Cabinet officials said Duterte did not criticize any country or leader by name in his speech. Other diplomats who heard the speech, however, felt he was referring to the United States, which colonized the Philippines after defeating its former ruler, Spain.

An Indonesian diplomat said Duterte held up a picture of Filipinos killed in colonial times to underscore his point.

The diplomat spoke to reporters on condition that he not be named because of the sensitivity of the issue. Philippine officials refused to release Duterte's remarks, which were not included in his prepared speech made yesterday.

The Department of Foreign Affairs in Manila said the president provided an explanation of how human rights records should be assessed in the context of the historical record.

"In the passionate intervention of President Duterte, he underscored the need to take a long historical view of human rights, mindful of the atrocities against the ethnic people of Mindanao," the department said in a statement, referring to the southern Philippine region where American forces were involved in deadly clashes with Muslim Filipinos in the early 1900s.

Duterte, who assumed the presidency in June, has had an uneasy relationship with the U.S., his country's longtime treaty ally.

He has said he is charting a foreign policy that is not dependent on the U.S., and has moved to reduce tensions with China over rival territorial claims.

The tough-talking president has also blasted U.N.-appointed human rights experts and rights watchdogs who have expressed concerns over the extrajudicial killings of more than 2,800 suspected drug dealers and users since Duterte took office. More than 600,000 others have surrendered, apparently out of fear of being killed.

After the flap over Duterte's earlier remarks, he and Obama met briefly on the sidelines of the Laos meetings and shook hands.

One Cabinet member, Jesus Dureza, said he asked Duterte how his talk with Obama went. "It was OK," Dureza quoted Duterte as saying. "He told me, 'we can talk some more at another time.'"

The summit ended with Laos turning over the chairmanship of the 10-nation Association of Southeast Asian Nations to Duterte, whose country will host the annual diplomatic gathering next year.

 

[cirr]

The West need to bear in mind that they are the ones with ORIGINAL　SIN

 

[911]

Obama will now show how really great America is . Difficult times ahead for Philippines.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

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Duterte can say what he likes when he is in the Philippines. Their country, their rules.

For goodness sake, he is in Laos attending an international conference.

When he is overseas, he has to be more careful in what he says.

This will reflect very badly on him and will come back to bite him later.

I cant fathom how people are supporting him here. For all chinese posters enthusiasm here, how strong nationalistic leaders Xi Jinping maybe but they will never utter such words of disgrace when in the office of President or PM.

It will hurt his nation and people more than elites like him. They will survive as always they have.

 

[TheNoob]

Hes amazing!