Dutch MPs call for action on Islamic weddings: civil ceremony must come first

[Kailash Kumar]

MPs call for action on Islamic weddings: civil ceremony must come first

April 24, 2019

People who undergo a religious marriage ceremony before taking part in a civil one will face fines, if draft legislation proposed by the right-wing Liberal VVD and left-wing green party GroenLinks wins parliamentary approval.

The measure is particularly aimed at Islamic weddings and aims to stop ‘the creation of a parallel society in which Islamic law takes priority over Dutch law,’ VVD MP Jeroen van Wijngaarden told Radio 1 news.

Currently clerics can be fined if they oversee a religious ceremony before a couple have gone through a civil ceremony but ‘some Imams ignore the rules’, Van Wijngaarden said.

The VVD and GroenLinks hope that by changing the rules, women will not be disadvantaged in the case of divorce and that it will be more difficult to go through arranged and forced marriages.

Dutch law currently states that marriage partners must be over the age of 18 and not married to anyone else at the same time.

The two parties also want the justice ministry to get tougher on clerics who break the rules.

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2019/...amic-weddings-civil-ceremony-must-come-first/

 

[Clutch]

Can you have a non marriage union or a gay union? What stopping me if i want to sign a fairytale paper???...

Lol

 

[Fawadqasim1]

islamophobia and religious intolerance.

interference of state in religious and private matters of minorities.

 

[litman]

basically they are making things difficult for the muslims and discourage muslims from coming to their countries. well to some extent they are are justified. their country their laws and their wishes. we also dont want afghanis in our country and generally we dislike them.

 

[Nein]

If they do a religious one then after that a civil one why is that a problem?

I forgot right wingers in europe are devoid of logic.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Using Muslim personal matters to score political points, morally bankrupt and no respect for human rights.

Who are they to put restrictions on Muslims? Will they do the same for Jews?

 

[Nein]

basically they are making things difficult for the muslims and discourage muslims from coming to their countries. well to some extent they are are justified. their country their laws and their wishes. we also dont want afghanis in our country and generally we dislike them.

Brunei just established sharia law look how it caused outrage when Muslims do something in their own country it is an outrage when its the Europeans it is our country our rules.

 

[Mamadouso]

basically they are making things difficult for the muslims and discourage muslims from coming to their countries. well to some extent they are are justified. their country their laws and their wishes. we also dont want afghanis in our country and generally we dislike them.

Brunei just established sharia law look how it caused outrage when Muslims do something in their own country it is an outrage when its the Europeans it is our country our rules.

Yes and don’t forget these Muslims have every right to be in the country of their former colonial master.

We would never have immigrated to Europe if they had not colonised so much land and extracted the wealth which led Muslim to the West.

It is not the same situation as US/Mexico or other run of mill immigration dispute.

 

[Nein]

Yes and don’t forget these Muslims have every right to be in the country of their former colonial master.

We would never have immigrated to Europe if they had not colonised so much land and extracted the wealth which led Muslim to the West.

It is not the same situation as US/Mexico or other run of mill immigration dispute.

White people and their arrogance not all of us are white, not all of us are western, not all of us are christian and not all of us are european.

We live in a planet of different races, ethnic groups and religions. We all have our own different laws, culture and customs. Somehow Europeans think they are the centre of the world and everybody has to conform to them.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

White people and their arrogance not all of us are white, not all of us are western, not all of us are christian and not all of us are european.

We live in a planet of different races, ethnic groups and religions. We all have our own different laws, culture and customs. Somehow Europeans think they are the centre of the world and everybody has to conform to them.

Ameen.

I would add that our brother Turks would know the most about the European mindset as they have ruled over Europe for 500 years.

Until we take pride in ourselves and chart an independent new destiny, we will always be held by the invisible mental and political shackles of their colonization of us.

Pakistan is still suffering due to the corruption of the system imposed on us by the British occupiers, and like Turkey, we have to cut through all the falsehood to find our own way.

Imran Khan might become as reviled as Rajab Tayyib Erdogan is in the West, but it will be proof that we are independent and not beholden to Western smokes and mirrors.

 

[Nein]

Ameen.

I would add that our brother Turks would know the most about the European mindset as they have ruled over Europe for 500 years.

Until we take pride in ourselves and chart an independent new destiny, we will always be held by the invisible mental and political shackles of their colonization of us.

Pakistan is still suffering due to the corruption of the system imposed on us by the British occupiers, and like Turkey, we have to cut through all the falsehood to find our own way.

Imran Khan might become as reviled as Rajab Tayyib Erdogan, but it will be proof that we are independent and not beholden to Western smokes and mirrors.

Dont shun the west or europe. We can learn from and take the stuff that we need. Like technology and knowledge. I dont believe we shun any place despite our disagreements and tensions. Isolation does not benefit anybody.

I also want Muslim countries not just stick with Europe or the West but try to look towards Asia, Africa and the Americas.

Australia too where I live.

 

[Lincoln]

Why can't both be at the same time.

 

[PeaceGen]

You guys are so full of shit in this thread. Our country, our rules. Don't like it? Get out.

 

[Rusty]

You guys are so full of shit in this thread. Our country, our rules. Don't like it? Get out.

Then why do you people collectivly loose your shit when Muslim countires impliment sharia in their own country?

Stop being a hipocrite and hiding behind dog whistles.

If you think this law is okay, then you need to shut up about Burnai and Saudi etc since its their country.

 

[Super Falcon]

These dutch jew *** lickers have big pain in *** should cure this pain permanently