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At a time when serviceability of submarines operated by the Indian Navy has come under scrutiny, the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) is said to be developing a system to carry out structured health monitoring of the under-development nuclear submarines and future conventional submarines of the Navy.

Condition monitoring is critical to forestalling breakdown, as it works on the philosophy of predictive (prognosis-driven) maintenance. Constant health monitoring will maximise asset availability besides extending its service life. Such a system, integrated into the very design of submarines, has been installed on the first indigenous nuclear submarine INS Arihant, V. Bhujanga Rao, DRDO director general (naval systems and materials) told The Hindu during an interaction at Kochi recently.

Indian Navy’s conventional submarines — Kilo-class and HDWs — do not have fixed, on-board health monitoring systems that alert technicians ashore to sub-par performance of equipment and systems, signalling potential breakdown.

Health of these submarines is checked periodically using portable monitoring systems comprising a network of sensors, said sources. Such checks are only possible when the submarine is available at harbour. However, all surface ships of the Navy sport such systems, which hold the key to their durability and extended serviceability.

“There’s a laid down inspection schedule for all vessels. For instance, norms suggest that pumps and motors are to be health-checked every six months while propulsion systems need a through inspection every quarter, added sources.

Mr. Rao said condition monitoring systems are extensively used in civil aviation, with technicians on ground receiving forecast on performance of on board systems via data link which helps them swiftly take corrective measures once the aircraft touches down.

The DRDO project is jointly executed by several naval and aeronautical labs and research institutions, with the Naval Science and Technology Laboratory in Visakhapatnam and Aeronautical Development Agency in Bangalore in the lead. The first Indian fighter jet LCA Tejas doesn’t have an on board conditioning monitoring system, but the plan is to have such a system for the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) and the Indo-Russian Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA), both under development.

Citing the complexity of such a system, Mr. Rao said at least 800 sensors are needed to monitor the gas turbine that’s being developed by the Gas Turbine Research Establishment, another DRDO facility.


The system being put on board the nuclear submarines will constantly keep a tab on the performance of each and every system and equipment, including critical auxiliary equipment.

On the air independent propulsion (AIP) system, which will considerably enhance the underwater endurance of conventional diesel-electric submarines, Mr. Rao said talks are under way with French firm DCNS to install the DRDO-developed AIP based on hydrogen fuel cell on the last Scorpene submarine built at Mazagaon Dock under the Navy’s Project 75.

“Our technology is proven on a land-based prototype. A submarine-based prototype plug weighing nearly 300 tonnes is now being worked on. The French MESMA AIP being offered for the Scorpenes is an old system with a steam turbine,” he said. The DRDO AIP can be reconfigured for the second line of future conventional submarines under P75 I as well, he added.

DRDO developing onboard equipment monitoring system for submarines - The Hindu
 
So we complete AIP designing .Am I right? friends
 
So we complete AIP designing .Am I right? friends

We have conducted a land based AIP system test, a Sub based version of the same is still underdevelopment n yet to be tested.

But don't worry the pace at which P75 is progressing at MDL, there is still a hell lot of time for the last 2 Scorpenes to come out n by that time hopefully DRDO would have mastered this tech.:)
 
Why don't they try and put the locally produced AIP, into one of the Arihant class subs and use it as a test bed. We already have the second sub under construction, maybe apply for a fourth sub and use it for testing purposes. And make it modular so the sections of the subs can be changed.
 
Why don't they try and put the locally produced AIP, into one of the Arihant class subs and use it as a test bed. We already have the second sub under construction, maybe apply for a fourth sub and use it for testing purposes. And make it modular so the sections of the subs can be changed.

Nuclear subs don't need AIP, besides its not some small equipment rather a 300 tons giant which would be required to be placed in the middle of the sub which would require structural changes n hence not suitable.

Moreover the sub version is still underdevelopment n there is still a lot of time for the 1st scorpene to role out.
 
Ah. It's raining good news today! First the underwater K-4 missile and now the AIP technology :D

One Question to the experts here: Why hasn't India built it's own indigenous conventional submarines?


Where has my good friend @jarves disappeared?
 
At a time when serviceability of submarines operated by the Indian Navy has come under scrutiny, the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) is said to be developing a system to carry out structured health monitoring of the under-development nuclear submarines and future conventional submarines of the Navy.

Condition monitoring is critical to forestalling breakdown, as it works on the philosophy of predictive (prognosis-driven) maintenance. Constant health monitoring will maximise asset availability besides extending its service life. Such a system, integrated into the very design of submarines, has been installed on the first indigenous nuclear submarine INS Arihant, V. Bhujanga Rao, DRDO director general (naval systems and materials) told The Hindu during an interaction at Kochi recently.

Indian Navy’s conventional submarines — Kilo-class and HDWs — do not have fixed, on-board health monitoring systems that alert technicians ashore to sub-par performance of equipment and systems, signalling potential breakdown.

Health of these submarines is checked periodically using portable monitoring systems comprising a network of sensors, said sources. Such checks are only possible when the submarine is available at harbour. However, all surface ships of the Navy sport such systems, which hold the key to their durability and extended serviceability.

“There’s a laid down inspection schedule for all vessels. For instance, norms suggest that pumps and motors are to be health-checked every six months while propulsion systems need a through inspection every quarter, added sources.

Mr. Rao said condition monitoring systems are extensively used in civil aviation, with technicians on ground receiving forecast on performance of on board systems via data link which helps them swiftly take corrective measures once the aircraft touches down.

The DRDO project is jointly executed by several naval and aeronautical labs and research institutions, with the Naval Science and Technology Laboratory in Visakhapatnam and Aeronautical Development Agency in Bangalore in the lead. The first Indian fighter jet LCA Tejas doesn’t have an on board conditioning monitoring system, but the plan is to have such a system for the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) and the Indo-Russian Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA), both under development.

Citing the complexity of such a system, Mr. Rao said at least 800 sensors are needed to monitor the gas turbine that’s being developed by the Gas Turbine Research Establishment, another DRDO facility.


The system being put on board the nuclear submarines will constantly keep a tab on the performance of each and every system and equipment, including critical auxiliary equipment.

On the air independent propulsion (AIP) system, which will considerably enhance the underwater endurance of conventional diesel-electric submarines, Mr. Rao said talks are under way with French firm DCNS to install the DRDO-developed AIP based on hydrogen fuel cell on the last Scorpene submarine built at Mazagaon Dock under the Navy’s Project 75.

“Our technology is proven on a land-based prototype. A submarine-based prototype plug weighing nearly 300 tonnes is now being worked on. The French MESMA AIP being offered for the Scorpenes is an old system with a steam turbine,” he said. The DRDO AIP can be reconfigured for the second line of future conventional submarines under P75 I as well, he added.

DRDO developing onboard equipment monitoring system for submarines - The Hindu
Alas some project on curbing incidents happening with subs. Appreciate it:enjoy:
BTW can anyone tell me how long will this project take to turn into reality. You know that main factor to worry about in Indian projects isn't Quality but Time it takes. Err..Hard truth:D

Plus the Induction date of INS Arihant into IN.
 
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Ah. It's raining good news today! First the underwater K-4 missile and now the AIP technology :D

One Question to the experts here: Why hasn't India built it's own indigenous conventional submarines?


Where has my good friend @jarves disappeared?
Bearuacracy or we can build one but it will not be on par to the world standards.

Anyways, can you tell me approx how long will it take?
Which thing??
 
Bearuacracy or we can build one but it will not be on par to the world standards.

But we built a nuclear submarine and are building two more. As for the quality/technology, are you implying that our nuclear submarine does not meet world standards?
 
But we built a nuclear submarine and are building two more. As for the quality/technology, are you implying that our nuclear submarine does not meet world standards?
Plan is to build 6 nuclear submarines(other two are under construction as we speak and from 4th and follow on subs will be bigger and have nuclear reactor of double power),INS Arihant is a SSBN,there are some reports(not credible enough) that we are even building SSN;s and other type of nuclear powered submarines.Nuclear submarine project is one of the top secret projects so not much info is available.Arihant seems to be pretty advanced to me but if you compare it with American submarines then it pales in comparison but it can beat anyting in our neighbourhood ;) and that should be our aim also.
Like a jet engine making a nuclear submarine is one of the toughest and critical jobs on earth and is pinnacle of engineering.So you can say that its quite an achievement for India.
Now making a conventional sub is easier than making nuclear sub but i dont know exactly why we havent made it.My guess is we hadnt enough money to spend on so many projects and on the same time for keepind defence preparedness we imported or manufactured it in India with JVrom other countries.

Also never forget to tag my username when you quote my posts,you were lucky that i saw this post of yours.
 
The monitoring system.
It has been already installed in INS Arihant according to the article and the article does not talk about installing it in conventional submarines but only on nuclear submarines.
 
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