DRDO claim on LCA export premature: Former top IAF officers

[oFFbEAT]

Instead if making such statements without proof about people who actually know what they are talking about (Unlike the talking done by fanboys on PDF) you should try to understand that DRDO is known for talking much before delivering!

So you think DRDO/HAL officials don't know what they're talking about......I don't think so......

Regarding DRDO not delivering......that's exactly the false conception DRDO is probably trying to change......
They are showing here that they have delivered but their reputation is taking a beating due to corruption in Govt. and Defence forces.......
The corrupt politicians and top brass of Defence do not induct their products and people think they are not delivering......

Of-course you'll say, why would IAF induct 'Tejas' if it's not meeting their requirement? BUT the reality is, IAF's 'requirements' will never be met till there are corrupt officials at the top and corrupt politicians at the helm.........they will keep deferring induction on one pretext or the other........

 

[spectribution]

Here's comes another junior, delusional indian making fool of himself.

Can you tell me what is the combat radius of Tejas? Thanks.

 

[NKVD]

Does Tejas have DSI? I'd like to see some pictures of that.
JF-17 Thunder for example is a solid pre-2000's design with sophisticated design-features like DSI and sharp finishing making it sleek, maneuverable, and easy-to-main fighter jet. That design is armed with sophisticated avionics, long-range radar, and 21st century data-link and weapon systems.

For First Argument Raptor Don't have Dsi So that Make it Less Maneuverable Or Old Design

JF-17 Thunder for example is a solid pre-2000's design with sophisticated design-features like DSI and sharp finishing making it sleek, maneuverable, and easy-to-main fighter jet. That design is armed with sophisticated avionics, long-range radar, and 21st century data-link and weapon systems.

Ohh really for Instance with Avionics Elta -2032 Radar is Far better in Performance in KLj Radar Look I do not Want two get into this Contest. As Indian Member Limitations of Us on Pdf

Here's comes another junior, delusional indian making fool of himself.
Can you tell me what is the combat radius of Tejas? Thanks.

1300Km same us Jf-17

 

[cloud_9]

There ain't any because the corrupt top brass of IAF are always against its proper induction...so that their pockets always remain filled with kick-backs from foreign deals................now that the truth is out, they're trying to defend their treacherous actions so far....

DRDO made a clever move here, going against the corrupt IAF top brass directly and pushing for 'Tejas' induction was probably proving to be difficult ......so they subtly put forward that they are ready to export 'Tejas' along with other things............

Well the clever joe's at DRDO can then sell it to any country.Why do they keep whinging about IAF not buying their unfinished product.

 

[AMCA]

So you think DRDO/HAL officials don't know what they're talking about......I don't think so......

Regarding DRDO not delivering......that's exactly the false conception DRDO is probably trying to change......
They are showing here that they have delivered but their reputation is taking a beating due to corruption in Govt. and Defence forces.......
The corrupt politicians and top brass of Defence do not induct their products and people think they are not delivering......

Of-course you'll say, why would IAF induct 'Tejas' if it's not meeting their requirement? BUT the reality is, IAF's 'requirements' will never be met till there are corrupt officials at the top and corrupt politicians at the helm.........they will keep deferring induction on one pretext or the other........

IAF is not ordering LCA for the plain fact that LCA does not bring in any new technology, but for PAF JF17 brought in new technologies.
IF Rafale deal does nit go well, LCA mk2 survives..

 

[spectribution]

Here's comes another junior, delusional indian making fool of himself.

Can you tell me what is the combat radius of Tejas? Thanks.

Really honest bro but JF 17's avionics are really outdated. A BLK I 105 KM radar , BLK II only 130 KM , No RWR, No MAWS, etc. You had no option but to buy this crap.

 

[gslv mk3]

Teja's airframe and use of composites is a decades-old thing.

Still only EF has more composite content than LCA.And composite usage on JF 17,in particular is very low.

I can show you alot of planes from 80's/90's with composites and Delta-wing design (which came in 70's...even older. lol)

So what ? How many aircraft has composite upto the level of LCA ?

Wake up kid !

Does Tejas have DSI? I'd like to see some pictures of that.

You know what is the purpose of DSI ? Do F 22 hve a DSI ?

That design is armed with sophisticated avionics, long-range radar, and 21st century data-link and weapon systems.

And you know what tejas have ?

Gives F-16 a runs for its money when it comes to maneuverability.

Usual Jingoism.

 

[AMCA]

Well the clever joe's at DRDO can then sell it to any country.Why do they keep whinging about IAF not buying their unfinished product.

India does not have any other testing Agency than the NFTC wherein the pilots work on deputation from IAF.. Operational Clearance are given by them based on the user requirement, currently IAF is its only WILL BE user.

 

[AUz]

See, I told you...you're a nobody. A nobody. A poor nationalistic indian with no knowledge of aviation talking and making fool of his own nation.

Go read my THIS POST

You know whats funny? Going by by your OWN chart...where you provided the specifications of Tejas...Here's what comes up.

(Again, this is your OWN source for Tejas' information)

1- JF-17 Thunder is much superior to Tejas when it comes to range (almost by 1000 kilometers!)

2- JF-17 Thunder can fly higher than Tejas as maximum ceiling of JF-17 is about 900 feet+ more than Tejas.

So in above mentioned aspects, superiority of JF-17 Thunder has been established.

Now, kindly, can you give me the "combat radius" of Tejas? Please Combat Radius is what matters in real war. So I'll let you 'search' for that and then I'll respond.

 

[$@rJen]

IAF is not ordering LCA for the plain fact that LCA does not bring in any new technology, but for PAF JF17 brought in new technologies.
IF Rafale deal does nit go well, LCA mk2 survives..

What new tech did JF brought that was not available with F-16 that PAF has????

LCA Mk1 is not matured........ but there's no way of stopping MK2, ... Rafale is Medium size and LCA is light category...... Indians will be fools to drop Mk2 after all these hard work .. still mk1 in paper is better than Jf block 1 ... and mk2 is way too mach for JF

 

[AUz]

Really honest bro but JF 17's avionics are really outdated. A BLK I 105 KM radar , BLK II only 130 KM , No RWR, No MAWS, etc. You had no option but to buy this crap.

Hey kid, who told you JF-17 has no MAWS?

See, you are typical indian. Talking out of your asssss

Please give me the combat radius of Tejas and we'll continue..step by step.

 

[gslv mk3]

]1- JF-17 Thunder is much superior to Tejas when it comes to range (almost by 1000 kilometers!)

In combat radius ?

 

[NKVD]

1- JF-17 Thunder is much superior to Tejas when it comes to range (almost by 1000 kilometers!)
2- JF-17 Thunder can fly higher than Tejas as maximum ceiling of JF-17 is about 900 feet+ more than Tejas.

3,000 km(ioc-1)Tested, Theoretically capable of 3,500 km. Flight Ceiling 15,000 m (IOC-1) (49,200 ft, possibility of being raised to 60,000 ft) In FOC for which more than Jf -17 if you check

 

[oFFbEAT]

Well the clever joe's at DRDO can then sell it to any country.Why do they keep whinging about IAF not buying their unfinished product.

Because, the general notion is that, for outsiders to accept it, first your own people should accept it.........and if your own people are corrupt, they'll never accept it........so you can't sell it to outsiders............it's like a 'vicious cycle'........which never ends.....

IMHO, we should scrap this LCA project altogether.......what's the need to invest in something which we'll never use.....
In-fact, I think, we should scrap all indigenous development projects because there will always be better alternatives outside......

 

[AUz]

In combat radius ?

No, over-all range.

He didn't give me combat radius as of yet. I want him to "give" tejas' combat radius. When he'll give me the combat radius---then I'll show him how JF-17 is superior to Tejas even in combat radius.

You know what? I already went over all of this with senior indian member (Sancho--who is a professional)...So I already know the scope of JF-17 Thunder's superiority over poor Tejas.