Dr. Amir Liaqat gets a Pakistani killed!

[Jungibaaz]

RIP. Another Pakistani bites the dust thanks to our extremist comrades.

What bastards. People like these should be beaten in the streets.

 

[Wolfhound]

Before religious policing others, first shut down heera mandi. Also stop those crappy lahore based mujra studios(almost pornographic) first before acting all self righteous. And just to let you know, Ahmedis do not consider Mirza Ahmed to be a prophet according to my knowledge. They rather consider him Mahdi. If you don't consider them muslim, then don't preach murder and hatred at least. Don't be a fitnah/munafiq.

What? Have you even read my other posts? I have never appreciated to approved 'heera mandi' and 'mujra studios' in any of my posts but i appose them! Ahmedis consider do not consider Hazrat Muhammad the seal of prophets, they say that there is nothing such as a seal of prophets and prophet will come even after Hazrat Muhammads death this is more than enogh proof for them to be called non muslims. I am not preaching hatred i am asking them to slove the problem as only hold the solution(accepting being kafirs) and end all the hate against them.

Oh man!! Even you don't know the names,who is Mirza Mansoor Ahmed? Your thoughts are so pathetic, First you declare them non muslim which is not in your hands and than you saying imposing on them to accept it? And they start say that we are kafir? Are you in your mind? Helllllllllo stop implementing your nonsense on others. All 73 sects claiming each other kafirs, you are
a kafir in some other sct believes. So you accept that or you defend your believes?

Mirza mansoor ahmed(Mirza Mansoor Ahmed? - Google Search) is the fifth and current caliph of ahmediyya society. I accidentally wrote his name instead of mirza ghulam ahmed who founded it. Its not in my hand i am just simply pointing it out. The 73 sects you are talking about all still believe in the basic 6 believes of islam and are still muslim till they do so thy only differ in the calipate period. P.S this is called defending your beliefs.

So? Let them believe whatever they want. Don't deobandis, barelvis, shias and others also believe in crazy nonsensical things?


LOL. For anyone to become a Muslim, all you need is to recite Kalima. TROLL


Like what necessity?


Because Ahmadis are not humans?


Muslims are ill-treated everywhere in the world. It all depends on their nationality how "well-treated" they are.


And those 100+ Muslim sects and their leaders, who are they fooling all claiming to be rightful Muslims?

You are absolutely right but they still believe in the 6 basic believes which still makes them muslims.

You dont know alot about islam do you? Kalma is the way you become muslim but you have to believe in the six basic believes before reciting it.

Here are the necessities or articles of faith i was talking about

,there are 6 basic necessities for you to become a muslim called the six articles of faith and without believing in any single one you are considered a non muslim. The first one is believing in the oneness of god , the second is believing in angels , the third is believing in all of the heavenly books and scriptures mentioned in the quran, the fourth one believing in all the prophets in quran and most importantly believing that Hazart Muhammad was and will remain to be the final prophet and seal of prophets till the day of judgement, the fifth one is believing in the day of judgement, the sixth and last one is believing in the predestination and decree of Allah(S.W.T)

No the government and public dont react because they think it is a good thing, now you get it? There is alot of hate for them is all of the sects which can be finished if they accept the truth.

I was talking about muslim countries.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

It is sad that they are getting persecuted.If the Ahmadis mind their own business and keep to themselves then what is the threat?it's not like they are going around committing Blasphemy or converting other Muslims into Ahmadi sect is it?
If they keep it to themselves they should be left alone.

The threat is "insecure, petty, intolerant and hate-mongering Muslims" in Pakistan.

We are so insecure in our faith that we need to have draconian anti-Ahmadi and Blasphemy laws and kill those who don't agree with our version of the faith.

 

[Pakistani E]

Khan jee Hazrat essa AS will come back to earth to fight with dajjal but he will be the ummati ho Hazrat Muhammad SAAW 2no mein farq hai. 1st study our religion then reply kindly bongiyan nah marein :-D :-D

Bongiyan aapne mari hai, Because there is only one difference between ahmadi beliefs and your beliefs regarding this matter.

As for studying religion, unlike the sarkari Muslims we are encouraged to study all religions and beliefs.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

What? Have you even read my other posts? I have never appreciated to approved 'heera mandi' and 'mujra studios' in any of my posts but i appose them! Ahmedis consider do not consider Hazrat Muhammad the seal of prophets, they say that there is nothing such as a seal of prophets and prophet will come even after Hazrat Muhammads death this is more than enogh proof for them to be called non muslims. I am not preaching hatred i am asking them to slove the problem as only hold the solution(accepting being kafirs) and end all the hate against them.

You ARE preaching hatred - you are not Allah, you have NO RIGHT OR AUTHORITY to pass judgment on ANYONE's faith.

Mirza mansoor ahmed(Mirza Mansoor Ahmed? - Google Search) is the fifth and current caliph of ahmediyya society. I accidentally wrote his name instead of mirza ghulam ahmed who founded it. Its not in my hand i am just simply pointing it out. The 73 sects you are talking about all still believe in the basic 6 believes of islam and are still muslim till they do so thy only differ in the calipate period. P.S this is called defending your beliefs.

Defend your beliefs academically, through discourse, and not by supporting anti-Ahmadi and Blasphemy laws that promote violence, hatred and intolerance in society.

You dont know alot about islam do you? Kalma is the way you become muslim but you have to believe in the six basic believes before reciting it.

Why do you give a shite whether someone 'knows a lot about Islam or not'? It is none of your or the State's business. Allah will judge everyone at the End of Days and is the ONLY one who can pass judgement on someone's faith.

 

[Pakistani E]

What? Have you even read my other posts? I have never appreciated to approved 'heera mandi' and 'mujra studios' in any of my posts but i appose them! Ahmedis consider do not consider Hazrat Muhammad the seal of prophets, they say that there is nothing such as a seal of prophets and prophet will come even after Hazrat Muhammads death this is more than enogh proof for them to be called non muslims. I am not preaching hatred i am asking them to slove the problem as only hold the solution(accepting being kafirs) and end all the hate against them.



Mirza mansoor ahmed(Mirza Mansoor Ahmed? - Google Search) is the fifth and current caliph of ahmediyya society. I accidentally wrote his name instead of mirza ghulam ahmed who founded it. Its not in my hand i am just simply pointing it out. The 73 sects you are talking about all still believe in the basic 6 believes of islam and are still muslim till they do so thy only differ in the calipate period. P.S this is called defending your beliefs.


You are absolutely right but they still believe in the 6 basic believes which still makes them muslims.

You dont know alot about islam do you? Kalma is the way you become muslim but you have to believe in the six basic believes before reciting it.

Here are the necessities or articles of faith i was talking about
No the government and public dont react because they think it is a good thing, now you get it? There is alot of hate for them is all of the sects which can be finished if they accept the truth.

I was talking about muslim countries.

Stop adding your nonsense in to the 6 articles of faith. Now where in the Hadith regarding the six articles of faith is it mentioned that the belief in last is also a condition. You are welcome to discuss everything else you want, but stop adding the word last in the 6 articles of faith. You might fool some sarkari muslims but I do have an understanding of basic Arabic.

 

[Musafir117]

What? Have you even read my other posts? I have never appreciated to approved 'heera mandi' and 'mujra studios' in any of my posts but i appose them! Ahmedis consider do not consider Hazrat Muhammad the seal of prophets, they say that there is nothing such as a seal of prophets and prophet will come even after Hazrat Muhammads death this is more than enogh proof for them to be called non muslims. I am not preaching hatred i am asking them to slove the problem as only hold the solution(accepting being kafirs) and end all the hate against them.



Mirza mansoor ahmed(Mirza Mansoor Ahmed? - Google Search) is the fifth and current caliph of ahmediyya society. I accidentally wrote his name instead of mirza ghulam ahmed who founded it. Its not in my hand i am just simply pointing it out. The 73 sects you are talking about all still believe in the basic 6 believes of islam and are still muslim till they do so thy only differ in the calipate period. P.S this is called defending your beliefs.


You are absolutely right but they still believe in the 6 basic believes which still makes them muslims.

You dont know alot about islam do you? Kalma is the way you become muslim but you have to believe in the six basic believes before reciting it.

Here are the necessities or articles of faith i was talking about
No the government and public dont react because they think it is a good thing, now you get it? There is alot of hate for them is all of the sects which can be finished if they accept the truth.

I was talking about muslim countries.

His name is Mirza Masroor Ahmad you dumb! Research and get illam by yourself and stop listening to your molvies. As I told you in start this type of debates prohibited here in PDF. Don't quote me again, Allah tumhen hadaiet dain.

 

[Fracker]

You ARE preaching hatred - you are not Allah, you have NO RIGHT OR AUTHORITY to pass judgment on ANYONE's faith.


Defend your beliefs academically, through discourse, and not by supporting anti-Ahmadi and Blasphemy laws that promote violence, hatred and intolerance in society.

Why do you give a shite whether someone 'knows a lot about Islam or not'? It is none of your or the State's business. Allah will judge everyone at the End of Days and is the ONLY one who can pass judgement on someone's faith.

Fact like when sun is there its called day, otherwise night dont requires another proof to solve it.

Believing in single Allah and Last prophet (saww) is called Muslim. No if buts, plain fact.

 

[Musafir117]

@Jungibaaz please closed this thread before it's get more heat and spreads hate, or clean the posts which you think out of subject.

 

[Yogijaat]

@Norwegian In some other thread where another Pakistani intellectual on some of your national news channel was saying that burning alive is hindu culture, so India is behind peshawar attack, one of the mod called me bigot when i replied that Pakistan should take these so called intellectuals ranting on national channel seriously because they can make or change the perception of the population. I don't see him on this thread calling you a bigot now
Nonetheless, many times Zaid Hamid has said on national news channels that he will butcher all hindus, freedom of speech i guess

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Fact like when sun is there its called day, otherwise night dont requires another proof to solve it.

Believing in single Allah and Last prophet (saww) is called Muslim. No if buts, plain fact.

Believe in that all you want, but that is your personal belief and that does not change the fact that the Pakistani State has passed degenerate and hate-mongering laws against Ahmadis that do not recognize them as Muslims and treat them as second class citizens.

Ahmadis should be recognized by the State as Muslims because that is what they claim to be, and we have no right to punish them for their beliefs.

 

[waz]

Before religious policing others, first shut down heera mandi. Also stop those crappy lahore based mujra studios

Bro, these shaytaani people and their madams were coming to AJK, to look for young females for the mujra houses. That's how much of a shameful munafiq people they are.One of the whores got away with a child, before the people with arms and local militia could get to the scenes of devastation. Thereafter the army, particularly AJK regiment sealed the area off and warned people from the outside, for their own safety not to come in, due to the suspicion these people had bought.

 

[waleed3601]

I'm currently watching this show called Arrow and I wish we could have some superhero vigilante who can kill all corrupt politicians and fake preachers like this and the faggot Abdul Aziz who incite violence against others.
SMH man what have we come to?
MA Jinnah would probably revert his stance on creating Pakistan if he saw what it is today....

 

[Fracker]

Believe in that all you want, but that is your personal belief and that does not change the fact that the Pakistani State has passed degenerate and hate-mongering laws against Ahmadis that do not recognize them as Muslims and treat them as second class citizens.

Ahmadis should be recognized by the State as Muslims because that is what they claim to be, and we have no right to punish them for their beliefs.

Not my persobal belief, i have a state, Quran, and hadiths to Back me. So wrong is qadiyanis call them Muslims, since they are not.

Second Part i do agree, they shouldnt be treated as second class citizen, if follow the Law. All corrupt politicians, generals, criminals are who ever go against law should be dealt with Law. Nothing more nothing less. This is equality.

 

[ranjeet]

Not sure what should I share in this thread. It's your internal matter, you should better know who is the black sheep among yourselves. If an Indian would say anything about someone it would be considered as evil Yindoo shahzish !!!