Donald Trump: Saudi Arabia's acquisition of nuclear weapons is "necessary"

[The SC]

if Saudia get them they will be in the form of nuclear umbrella provided by u.s like japan and s.korea.u.s will use them to nuke Muslim countries like qatar iran and yemen under name of saudia to avoid world direct reaction against u.s

Like if Iran, Qatar and Yemen have nuclear bombs that require a counter.. only Iran has the potential of getting them.. and Usrael who says it has them.. without any proof.. indicating it is a bluff to hide the US nuclear umbrella..

 

[Cookie Monster]

Never going to happen. Why? Because Israel wouldn't tolerate such weapons in Saudi hands. Every sane people who is aware of the Middle Eastern politics will agree that the Western world wouldn't accept a nuclearized Saudi Arabia either.

Actually they wouldn't really mind the current KSA having nukes...bcuz their current leadership is basically a puppet of US...as in they would do everything US would like and nothing they won't. The only reason they wouldn't want KSA to have nukes even with this kind of puppet/staunch US ally government is that regimes can change(like it happened in Iran's case)...and there is a potential that this may eventually backfire.

So it's better for them to let go of the short term gain of giving KSA an upper hand over Iran(with nukes) in order to avoid a potential long term threat to Israel.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Actually they wouldn't really mind the current KSA having nukes...bcuz their current leadership is basically a puppet of US...as in they would do everything US would like and nothing they won't. The only reason they wouldn't want KSA to have nukes even with this kind of puppet/staunch US ally government is that regimes can change(like it happened in Iran's case)...and there is a potential that this may eventually backfire.

So it's better for them to let go of the short term gain of giving KSA an upper hand over Iran(with nukes) in order to avoid a potential long term threat to Israel.

I wouldn't say KSA is a puppet of USA.

But KSA is trying to look for alternatives to USA.

 

[Cookie Monster]

I wouldn't say KSA is a puppet of USA.

But KSA is trying to look for alternatives to USA.

It's not a puppet in the sense of US guiding KSA policies. It's a puppet in the sense of not opposing US and its interests in any capacity whatsoever and even going out of its way to safeguard US interests.

 

[Hell hound]

What foolishness are you talking about? Was Pakistan an NPT signatory?

Or do you just want to insult KSA by any means?

Please clarify your post.. because it makes no sense.. Are you talking about the civilian nuclear program or nuclear weapons..in the first case that is what KSA is seeking with all the technologies involved in it.. second.. when it comes to nuclear weapons, Trump says that the US can provide them..because:
"Trump stressed that the allied countries will already get nuclear weapons in the near future, "whether it got support from America or not," he said."

not insulting anyone here just pointing out if you are the darling of the west at this moment and ifing president of united state want you to go nuclear(umbrella or your own warheads.get whatever you can) why miss it. take maximum advantage of it.

 

[Ceylal]

@AmirPatriot @Hack-Hook bros, you need to see this.

Sauds Godfather has a new suggestion, nuke Iran by Saudi mofos, it's obvious that we wouldn't use such thing against Arab people of peninsula, but JCPOA looks like a shit more than ever as of now guys. We must continue the enrichment to 99 percent, and test a missile capable of targeting WH in Washington DC. Sauds are not worth of even thinking about lol

It will take the Sauds a 3 decades at least to master the knowledge to fabricate a bomb..The JCPOA is an indication that Iran has more than the knowledge required to make a bomb, but has tested bombs, and it was just a tool to put the brake on manufacturing the weapon..

 

[EpiiC]

You, you my friend have gone over the edge. Relax and drink strong chai.

 

[Kompromat]

He's talking about stationing B61 nukes in those countries so don't get all worked up.

 

[Zibago]

Now who is spreading nukes?

 

[Cookie Monster]

not insulting anyone here just pointing out if you are the darling of the west at this moment and ifing president of united state want you to go nuclear(umbrella or your own warheads.get whatever you can) why miss it. take maximum advantage of it.

In my personal opinion every country has the right to nuclear weapons...while it will be bad in terms of world security but it's a bit hypocritical for certain countries to have nukes while telling others not to develop them.

So based on that above...yes from the Saudi perspective they should jump on the chance to acquire nukes...but on the flip side it comes with a cost. The cost would be an arms race where Iran would rush to develop its own nukes and can lead to an extreme polarization of the region...and the Middle East already being a volatile region...the chances of a nuclear war would greatly increase.

 

[The SC]

It's not a puppet in the sense of US guiding KSA policies. It's a puppet in the sense of not opposing US and its interests in any capacity whatsoever and even going out of its way to safeguard US interests.

My friend..KSA is only safeguarding its own interests.. It opposes the US policies when it comes to Palestine as well as internal matters..

 

[Cookie Monster]

My friend..KSA is only safeguarding its own interests.. It opposes the US policies when it comes to Palestine as well as internal matters..

It opposes US when it comes to Palestine in name only. Other than the lip service...KSA turns a blind eye towards Israel's actions. Current KSA leaders are in US/Israeli pocket, which is fine by me...I really don't care since it's not my country and I don't really buy into the whole "ummah" thing. They r free to do whatever they want...I'm just calling a spade, a spade.

 

[The SC]

not insulting anyone here just pointing out if you are the darling of the west at this moment and ifing president of united state want you to go nuclear(umbrella or your own warheads.get whatever you can) why miss it. take maximum advantage of it.

Obviously you show that you hurt somewhere.. KSA has never seeked to be the darling of anyone.. its position. influence and strength compel those countries to deal with it on equal footing and provide it with what it needs or want.. because they know that alternatives are there.. it is going shopping for an apple computer and the seller knows that you can get a Dell instead.. do you think he won't want to deal with you just because you are Saudi..or Pakistani for instance?
KSA is doing just that what you are trying to say.. it is procuring all the needed nuclear technologies.. including the ones for small reactors.... and as for warheads, that will happen if it is really necessary..and KSA finds itself under a nuclear threat.. but much before the threat is imminent..

It opposes US when it comes to Palestine in name only. Other than the lip service...KSA turns a blind eye towards Israel's actions. Current KSA leaders are in US/Israeli pocket, which is fine by me...I really don't care since it's not my country and I don't really buy into the whole "ummah" thing. They r free to do whatever they want...I'm just calling a spade, a spade.

It is your opinion ..and you have the right to it..but it opposes the reality of KSA's position on the matter..
I wonder if someone would have said that Pakistan was a puppet of the US when things were going well between the two.. and hence in the pocket of US/Usrael.. if you would have believed it!?

 

[Cookie Monster]

It is your opinion ..and you have the right to it..but it opposes the reality of KSA's position on the matter..

Yes my opinion indeed...based on news reports of various events and how they have unfolded over time...based on the actions taken by KSA, USA, etc.

It's fine if u see it otherwise...we can only speculate bcuz it's not like KSA is going to announce its position on these matters.

I wonder if someone would have said that Pakistan was a puppet of the US when things were going well between the two.. and hence in the pocket of US/Usrael.. if you would have believed it!?

It doesn't have much to do with the relationship. Two countries can have a good relationship without one being the puppet of another...and yes there have been Pakistani leaders that have been sell outs to the west. I have no qualms about calling them out too.

 

[The SC]

Yes my opinion indeed...based on news reports of various events and how they have unfolded over time...based on the actions taken by KSA, USA, etc.

It's fine if u see it otherwise...we can only speculate bcuz it's not like KSA is going to announce its position on these matters.

It doesn't have much to do with the relationship. Two countries can have a good relationship without one being the puppet of another...and yes there have been Pakistani leaders that have been sell outs to the west. I have no qualms about calling them out too.

In all the events and facts you mentioned, KSA's position on Palestine has been consistent over the decades..since the occupation of Palestine.. and everytime Usrael has destroyed Gaza or the occupied territories' infrastructures, it is KSA who has paid for their rebuilding with aid in excess of at least $15 billion .. So what can be expected more..that KSA go to war against Usrael and hence against the US? that is a bit nonsense..