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Donald Lu admits

Like many posters here may be Imran khan also believes in conspiracy theories which provide a palatable reason for failure in a political maneuver.

He obviously has shown he has tremendous popular support, so the following is not to in any way diminish his claim to power or for early elections etc.

Just before he was ousted, the opposition leaders were getting to a sort of desperate point. Nawas Sharief et al in exile, and the net closing in around the others of PPP and PMLN closing in. They were looking at being cornered without recourse soon so as really experienced politicians they went on the offensive- bought or otherwise prevailed upon the MNAs to sink PTI majority and topple IK.

IK couldn't really admit he lost in that maneuver which is actually not illegal in the system. So he as an experience politician himself decided to invent the foreign power excuse. Donald Lu's lose talk provided sufficient pseudo evidence to make himself and his coterie believe and really sell the theory.

Bajwa is caught in the middle of this and cannot win. If he says something it will be seen as evidence of interference and if he doesn't say anything everyone else's allegations go unchallenged.


In India people like Rahul Gandhi, Yadav, Khejriwal etc must be kicking themselves for not using the same ruse when they lost.
 
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What's more concerning is that a low-level US diplomat threatened a nuclear armed state and our establishment surrendered.

Meanwhile Afghan Taliban... Vietnam farmers....

Any proof the lowly diplomat made the threat
 
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What's more concerning is that a low-level US diplomat threatened a nuclear armed state and our establishment surrendered.

Meanwhile Afghan Taliban... Vietnam farmers....
They were just proxies, but result was millions killed.
You are comparing some proxies with a state?

You still think these homo mullahs and viet cong defeated US, Russia?
Real Players were US, Russia, China, who are fighting everywhere after WW2.
If millions killed in Afghanistan, Vietnam or even in Korea, You think these Super Powers cares?
How Houthies defeated Saudi led coalition? In reality they not, their backers.

OK, What is condition in Afghanistan now? they are fighting for foods.

IMF, World Bank is under their control, few months ago, no one was ready to give you loan.

it does not matter US kick imran khan or not, but he was incompetent like shehbaz sharif.
 
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What's more concerning is that a low-level US diplomat threatened a nuclear armed state and our establishment surrendered.

Meanwhile Afghan Taliban... Vietnam farmers....

It should not be surprising. Your so called top officials be it generals or civilians are are for sale. They can only rule in **** land. Outside of that they are worthless beggars.
 
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For the first time in Pakistans history , the dirty role of the Pakistan-army has been exposed. In most countries the commander in chief would have been fired for interference in the civilian government’s foreign policy, Bajwa has disgraced in the eyes of the world. The army is responsible for the execution of previous prime minister Z A Bhutto 1979. I cannot believe as a patriotic our army would have colluded with a foreign power. I hope Bajwa is brought to justice. I can now believe that it was the army responsible for the assassination of Benzair Bhutto also in collusion with the untied states , shame on you , shame on you
 
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Hopefully, after Nov elections, Pakistan may see some change in US policy. Cuz Republican has a much softer stance on Pak economic policy.
The baseline is supreme national interests of any country. No one is going you a free lunch without serving one's national interest.
 
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Interestingly, if anyone cares for the truth and not the claims of the cultists, what is being said in the clip above is NOT what the Urdu text is claiming. His testimony is a matter of public record, if anyone cares to hear for themselves.
damage beyond control.

enjoy...

 
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damage beyond control.

enjoy...

What I am enjoying is for both sides to look at the same evidence and arrive at totally opposite conclusions. When minds are already made up, facts do not really matter. :D
 
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What I am enjoying is for both sides to look at the same evidence and arrive at totally opposite conclusions. When minds are already made up, facts do not really matter. :D
damage done , started in 1951 , Bhutto death, 7th fleet and story goes on and on and on .... forget it , enjoy your chai paratha.

 
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