Dog Fight Abilities/Maneuverability of....

[Umair Nawaz]

O really, stop fooling yourself. It's annoying. JF-17 is inferior to more better advanced aircraft. JF-17 is mostly a match for older smaller planes like the Mig-21. Jesus your not even pakistani what makes you think it's the best aircraft? It's a plane designed to be like the F-16 but it's not even close to the f-16's capabilities except A2G.

What r u smoking Kiddo, the a/c is more then a match for F-16A/B, the most maneuverable in F-16 Family. It constantly beat F16s when we had engaged the two in mock up Dog fights in 2006.

Visit JF-17 Thread and JF-17 information pool to know what the fighter is capable of.

The reason i didnt put it in this thread is because all the a/c im talking about r 4.5+++ Generation and JFT is 4.0+++ generation a/c.

 

[victor07]

I think it refers to the maneuvering capabilities of the Su-35 in WVR combat. This is a quote from an interview with Sergey Bogdan, test-pilot of Sukhoi Design Bureau. He comments on techniques shown during a demonstration flight at Le Bourget 2013.
Full interview with him was published in ruaviation.com.
...However, thanks to the tailored control system and high-thrust engines there are some new aspects related to performing specific aerobatic maneuvers. For instance, the pilot is able to perform a “practical” maneuver – stall turn (or Hammerhead turn). It is performed when the pilot of Su-35S attacks an air target, then performs the stall turn and attacks it again. The second example demonstrates the jet’s high thrust/weight ratio. In particular, it may be demonstrated by performing the tailslide. However, earlier the jet stopped and “started falling down” tail foremost. Su-35S has higher thrust, thus the jet stops and then starts moving forward at low speed instead of falling down. Moreover, it is able to perform an aggressive turn at low speed. These are two examples of how the maneuverability of Su-35S changes the traditional aerobatics maneuvers .... The angles of attack reach 90 degrees in some flight modes. Moreover, in one mode the angle of attack reaches 100 degrees. As for the speeds: when the jet performs horizontal flight the speed may drop to 70 km/h. At the same time, due to high thrust/weight ratio it is able to accelerate quickly. Le Bourget airfield has a rather limited maneuvering area; however, I have enough time to gain the speed of 800 km/h.

 

[Norphisor]

EF Typhoon is better cause it's made in Europe.
Whereas all the Russian jets have poor history.