Does your identity decide your worldview

[livingdead]

Most of us here identify with some group or other, based on nationality or religion, or tribe or even the football team we follow. When you feel being part of a group, you tend to feel that you share a common bond.
Most of us have multiple identities, but we almost always have at least 1 primary identity.

The question is, does it influence your worldview in any major way. Also does it influence the way you perceive truth.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

The question is, does it influence your worldview in any major way.

Yes. Like most other people, my identity, my culture and the environment I grew up in will have an impact on my world view.

Also does it influence the way you perceive truth.

Truth is based on facts.

If something can be proved with evidence and testing (such as the existence of gravity), I don't see why a person's identity would have anything to do with that.

 

[livingdead]

Yes. Like most other people, my identity, my culture and the environment I grew up in will have an impact on my world view.



Truth is based on facts.

If something can be proved with evidence and testing (such as the existence of gravity), I don't see why a person's identity would have anything to do with that.

what if it cannot be proved with evidence or no evidence available to you to check.. (as in most news sources, or other sources that we gather information in day to day life). I am not talking about truth but our perceived truth, what we believe to be a good and reliable source and what we can ignore.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

what if it cannot be proved with evidence or no evidence available to you to check.. (as in most news sources, or other sources that we gather information in day to day life). I am not talking about truth but our perceived truth, what we believe to be a good and reliable source and what we can ignore.

If there is no evidence, my answer is that I'll wait for evidence.

As you've probably guessed, I'm an Atheist/Agnostic.

In the absence of evidence my answer is: "I don't know".

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Hindu Guy is not the same person which he was say 15 years ago. Our perception of things get change over time and we don't even notice it. It get change quickly when you get chance to interact with people of different religous beliefs, culture, langauge and beliefs etc

 

[Indischer]

Yes. Like most other people, my identity, my culture and the environment I grew up in will have an impact on my world view.



Truth is based on facts.

If something can be proved with evidence and testing (such as the existence of gravity), I don't see why a person's identity would have anything to do with that.

Gravity is a weak example to correlate with worldview. Worldview is subjective and not defined by any universally verifiable laws like Gravity.

And regarding Truth being based on facts, what if the facts that support the truth are brought into dispute? I believe, in such situations, it's our regional identities and personal preferences that guide what we choose to believe as fact and what the truth is. Ex: Bin Laden's death.

If there is no evidence, my answer is that I'll wait for evidence.

As you've probably guessed, I'm an Atheist/Agnostic.

In the absence of evidence my answer is: "I don't know".

Our tribe is increasing.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

What do you guys think of this statement by India's favorite president:

India to become superpower by 2012: Kalam - Economic Times

I am a nationalist myself, but I would never claim that China is a superpower, since it goes against the facts, the evidence, and basic logic.

At this point, only America could claim to have the degree of global hegemony to be called a superpower.

 

[W.11]

lets get laid @hinduguy

 

[livingdead]

Gravity is a weak example to correlate with worldview. Worldview is subjective and not defined by any universally verifiable laws like Gravity.

And regarding Truth being based on facts, what if the facts that support the truth are brought into dispute? I believe, in such situations, it's our regional identities and personal preferences that guide what we choose to believe as fact and what the truth is. Ex: Bin Laden's death.

I implied the same when I said about our choice of source of information.
If you demand evidence for every information you receive, your life will stop working and your brain will explode.
Most of us take short cuts.
Even for scientific phenomena, we rely on a good source to decide which one to think to be true, many of them are beyond our comprehension.
That is where our identity based bias comes into picture. It might influence for some and might not for others.

lets get laid @hinduguy

 

[Indischer]

What do you guys think of this statement by India's favorite president:

India to become superpower by 2012: Kalam - Economic Times

I am a nationalist myself, but I would never claim that China is a superpower, since it goes against the facts, the evidence, and basic logic.

At this point, only America could claim to have the degree of global hegemony to be called a superpower.

Dr A P J Abdul Kalam is not India's favourite President because he made such statements. He's our favourite because he did his part in contributing towards realising the dream of a strong, prosperous India.

I believe India needs to become strong and prosperous internally before trying her hand at influencing World affairs. This might take another 80-100 years, but as long as the intent and work goes ahead, there's no reason why his words won't come true one day.

Regarding China, you may not say it's a Superpower today. But are you certain it won't reach there eventually? Maybe in 3-4 decades?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Regarding China, you may not say it's a Superpower today. But are you certain it won't reach there eventually? Maybe in 3-4 decades?

I suppose it is possible, but I find it highly unlikely.

In my world view, the age of superpowers is over.

Given the trend towards a more equal distribution of power among the world's major countries, I think a multi-polar world is the most likely outcome.

I don't see how any one country will be able to achieve global hegemony in the future.

Our goal right now is to become a developed country. And I feel that a realistic and pragmatic approach is the best way to achieve that.

 

[cyphercide]

What do you guys think of this statement by India's favorite president:

India to become superpower by 2012: Kalam - Economic Times

I am a nationalist myself, but I would never claim that China is a superpower, since it goes against the facts, the evidence, and basic logic.

Really? You want to compare yourself with A P J Abdul Kalam? And what exactly are your credentials?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Really? You want to compare yourself with A P J Abdul Kalam? And what exactly are your credentials?

I didn't compare myself with anybody.

I asked what do you think of President Kalam's statement that "India will be a superpower by 2012"?

 

[cyphercide]

I didn't compare myself with anybody.

I asked what do you think of President Kalam's statement that "India will be a superpower by 2012"?

Unless you have a poor grasp of English, you did put across your views in direct contrast with his.

And if you take in the context Mr. Kalam is advocating for, India is an elite group of nations as he did predict we would be.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

And if you take in the context and the discipline Mr. Kalam is advocating for, India is an elite group of nations as he did predict we would we.

He said "India would be a superpower by 2012".

Bear in mind that we are in the year 2014.

Do you think his views were based on facts and logic, or on his identity as an Indian?

Do you think India became a superpower in the year 2012?