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Do Medications Really Expire...!!??

Ok, now my question is can we trust that these business men are putting correct expiry date? For example if a medicine can be useable for 2 years, do they put 2 years or maybe 1 year to increase sales? How regulation authorities ensure this, i mean do they perform these tests by themselves when the give approval?
 
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Ok, now my question is can we trust that these business men are putting correct expiry date? For example if a medicine can be useable for 2 years, do they put 2 years or maybe 1 year to increase sales? How regulation authorities ensure this, i mean do they perform these tests by themselves when the give approval?

Those stability tests are actually reproduced and validated by US FDA or a government drug testing lab. Batches of medicines are pulled off the shelves randomly from anywhere to test them. The testing is very very stringent. If any test fails, the govt can ask the company to pull its entire stock of medications and may even suspend its manufacturing license. Too risky for pharmaceutical companies to play any games. So yes, the expiry dates on those medications is correct. The stability of the least stable constituent is taken into consideration.
 
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Ok, now my question is can we trust that these business men are putting correct expiry date? For example if a medicine can be useable for 2 years, do they put 2 years or maybe 1 year to increase sales? How regulation authorities ensure this, i mean do they perform these tests by themselves when the give approval?

In the west they run trials
 
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@gubbi That's in case of expired medications or expiry date is more than actual effective/stability date. But in case company declared shorter life than actual life to increase her inventory turnover than those tests will not be effective to catch this, because you can't say expiry date is incorrect in this case.

In the west they run trials

If manufacturer says that shelf life of his product is 1 years and tests suggests that it can be used for 2 years, do they dictate 2 years shelf life? I don't think so
 
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The U.S Military and VA routinely uses medications beyond the printed expiration date.
 
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In the west they run trials

Not only in west, everywhere in world (even in case of generic drug) before launch of drug, they have do huge stability studies at 4, 37 and 42 deg C for the required time. The stability studies have lot of data from structure to function of molecule. Then they have to submit stability data to local govt which then approves it.

Yes medications do expire after certain time, they lose their effectiveness. In some cases they may have harmful effects also.
 
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@gubbi That's in case of expired medications or expiry date is more than actual effective/stability date. But in case company declared shorter life than actual life to increase her inventory turnover than those tests will not be effective to catch this, because you can't say expiry date is incorrect in this case.



If manufacturer says that shelf life of his product is 1 years and tests suggests that it can be used for 2 years, do they dictate 2 years shelf life? I don't think so

In west they are strict on labeling. Manufacturing are responsible for labeling and expiry date. The body responsible in UK is MHRA Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency
 
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@gubbi That's in case of expired medications or expiry date is more than actual effective/stability date. But in case company declared shorter life than actual life to increase her inventory turnover than those tests will not be effective to catch this, because you can't say expiry date is incorrect in this case.
No. The Government drug testing labs test for any claims that the company makes about its product. Even for the expiry dates. If found non-compliant, the companies will face consequences accordingly. You will be surprised how strictly the Pharmaceutical industry is regulated, even more than the cosmetic or food industry!
Upto the point that the drug formulation gets to the market, the entire process is strictly regulated. Standards for even the ingredients that go into making the formulation are strictly controlled by the government. Any claim made by the manufacturer is independently verified. So once in the market, the company is free to price its product to recoup any costs it incurs during the development. So why will the company claim false expiry dates, and draw Govt wrath, to increase its turnover?
 
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Not only in west, everywhere in world (even in case of generic drug) before launch of drug, they have do huge stability studies at 4, 37 and 42 deg C for the required time. The stability studies have lot of data from structure to function of molecule. Then they have to submit stability data to local govt which then approves it.

Yes medications do expire after certain time, they lose their effectiveness. In some cases they may have harmful effects also.
But most manufacturers are in west.
 
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@gubbi That's in case of expired medications or expiry date is more than actual effective/stability date. But in case company declared shorter life than actual life to increase her inventory turnover than those tests will not be effective to catch this, because you can't say expiry date is incorrect in this case.



If manufacturer says that shelf life of his product is 1 years and tests suggests that it can be used for 2 years, do they dictate 2 years shelf life? I don't think so

Manufacturing of medicines does not cost lot of money. The money is required mainly during R & D stages, because very few molecules succeed from lab to market journey.
The most of medicines are made in just few paise to few rupees but are sold in 100-10000 rupees to recover the R and D costs.

@aryan Yes, Most of the innovator drug manufacturers are in west, while most of generic drug manufacturers are India and China.
 
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The U.S Military and VA routinely uses medications beyond the printed expiration date.

I also have read about it but don't know if it's true or not, here is some part of a very long email i received couple of years ago

Studies show that expired drugs may lose some of their potency over time, from as little as 5% or less to 50% or more (though usually much less than the latter). Even 10 years after the "expiration date," most drugs have a good deal of their original potency.

One of the largest studies ever conducted that supports the above points about "expired drug" labeling was done by the US military 15 years ago, according to a feature story in the Wall Street Journal (March 29, 2000), reported by Laurie P. Cohen. The military was sitting on a $1 billion stockpile of drugs and facing the daunting process of destroying and replacing its supply every 2 to 3 years, so it began a testing program to see if it could extend the life of its inventory. The testing, conducted by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA), ultimately covered more than 100 drugs, prescription and over-the-counter. The results showed that about 90% of them were safe and effective as far as 15 years past their original expiration date.

In light of these results, a former director of the testing program, Francis Flaherty, said he concluded that expiration dates put on by manufacturers typically have no bearing on whether a drug is usable for longer. Mr. Flaherty noted that a drug maker is required to prove only that a drug is still good on whatever expiration date the company chooses to set. The expiration date doesn't mean, or even suggest, that the drug will stop being effective after that, nor that it will become harmful. "Manufacturers put expiration dates on for marketing, rather than scientific, reasons," said Mr. Flaherty, a pharmacist at the FDA until his retirement in 1999. "It's not profitable for them to have products on a shelf for 10 years. They want turnover."

The FDA cautioned there isn't enough evidence from the program, which is weighted toward drugs used during combat, to conclude most drugs in consumers' medicine cabinets are potent beyond the expiration date. Joel Davis, however, a former FDA expiration-date compliance chief, said that with a handful of exceptions -- notably nitroglycerin, insulin, and some liquid antibiotics -- most drugs are probably as durable as those the agency has tested for the military. "Most drugs degrade very slowly," he said. "In all likelihood, you can take a product you have at home and keep it for many years." Consider aspirin. Bayer AG puts 2-year or 3-year dates on aspirin and says that it should be discarded after that. However, Chris Allen, a vice president at the Bayer unit that makes aspirin, said the dating is "pretty conservative" ; when Bayer has tested 4-year-old aspirin, it remained 100% effective, he said. So why doesn't Bayer set a 4-year expiration date? Because the company often changes packaging, and it undertakes "continuous improvement programs," Mr. Allen said. Each change triggers a need for more expiration-date testing, and testing each time for a 4-year life would be impractical. Bayer has never tested aspirin beyond 4 years, Mr. Allen said. But Jens Carstensen has. Dr. Carstensen, professor emeritus at the University of Wisconsin's pharmacy school, who wrote what is considered the main text on drug stability, said, "I did a study of different aspirins, and after 5 years, Bayer was still excellent. Aspirin, if made correctly, is very stable.
 
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I just dumped some codons I was prescribrd couple of years ago.
 
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medications don't get expired but they lose their effectiveness and their pharmacokinetics over time.
 
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