Dividing DRDO into four separate R&D.The Way forward ?

[Hareeshu IA MBT]

DRDO should be divided into 4 different R&D . Each should be focusing of Different platform like . Not as separate DRDO teams but as big as DRDO itself. ! ! ! And bring in the experienced weapon scientists all around tge world with good pay . Its better than paying billions for the imported weapon system . India will be investing atleast 500 billion for tge armed forces in the future. Future technology will be very very very high price tag.

My proposed plan :-

- Missiles and radar R&D

- Small-Heavy arms for the Armed forces

- Futuristic naval ships and subs technology

- Futuristic Aerospace technology with must involve R&D of Aircrafts and the avionics etc . It should cover the entire air warfare from fighter jets to UCAV
Every one should be reporting to defence Minister and the PM every month . Which must be followed up by the user and report on their observations.

As you know we already have separate DRDO/ADA teams working on different projects . But what I proposed will have entirely separate R&Ds with separate funding and separate goals to achieve. This will improve our quality and productivity . We can expect a great chance to get our weapons on time atleast one project won't be put into coma but works will continue in all projects simultaneously . What do you think about it ? I there any risk involved ? Or it will Give us technological boost .

May be NRI technicians and skilled labours working abroad musts be roped in to weapon programs . The export of weapons will always be accompanied with further development of the product. India already aspire to become a major global player and leader in Asian Rim . Many countries including China use already realised the true potential of becoming a weapon supplier from weapon importer.

Right now china is developing many equipments ranging from small arms to Heavy weapons . From drones to Fifth gen fighter jets . These projects are heavily funded and the technologies are either bought or stolen by hacking the systems.

India must follow chinese model of R&D . Buy or Beg or Steal .

More focus and more fund . For better productivity ...

 

[sathya]

I feel HAL should be divided for better management..
I don't like to hear its over stretched

 

[Hareeshu IA MBT]

I feel HAL should be divided for better management..
I don't like to hear its over stretched

Well if that's the case then both DRDO and HAL must be fixed . It can be done on with more work force and more fund . Our stupid as govt ready to pay 30 billion on mmrca but very less money on R&D . Its a serious problem. Separate specialised department must be created like for fixed wing , rotatary and drones development.

 

[sathya]

Only this year funds have been doubled, hope it continues to double and deliver goods too

Like ISRO

 

[Abingdonboy]

DRDO should be divided into 4 different R&D . Each should be focusing of Different platform like . Not as separate DRDO teams but as big as DRDO itself. ! ! ! And bring in the experienced weapon scientists all around tge world with good pay . Its better than paying billions for the imported weapon system . India will be investing atleast 500 billion for tge armed forces in the future. Future technology will be very very very high price tag.

My proposed plan :-

- Missiles and radar R&D

- Small-Heavy arms for the Armed forces

- Futuristic naval ships and subs technology

- Futuristic Aerospace technology with must involve R&D of Aircrafts and the avionics etc . It should cover the entire air warfare from fighter jets to UCAV
Every one should be reporting to defence Minister and the PM every month . Which must be followed up by the user and report on their observations.

As you know we already have separate DRDO/ADA teams working on different projects . But what I proposed will have entirely separate R&Ds with separate funding and separate goals to achieve. This will improve our quality and productivity . We can expect a great chance to get our weapons on time atleast one project won't be put into coma but works will continue in all projects simultaneously . What do you think about it ? I there any risk involved ? Or it will Give us technological boost .

May be NRI technicians and skilled labours working abroad musts be roped in to weapon programs . The export of weapons will always be accompanied with further development of the product. India already aspire to become a major global player and leader in Asian Rim . Many countries including China use already realised the true potential of becoming a weapon supplier from weapon importer.

Right now china is developing many equipments ranging from small arms to Heavy weapons . From drones to Fifth gen fighter jets . These projects are heavily funded and the technologies are either bought or stolen by hacking the systems.

India must follow chinese model of R&D . Buy or Beg or Steal .

More focus and more fund . For better productivity ...

DRDO is already sub-divided along these lines- there's ADA, DARA, ADE, LRDE, HEMRL, ARDE etc etc

The DRDO is simply the name for a network of 52 labs and production units.


I agree HAL is in desperate need of being broken down into smaller entities, having rotary wing, fixed wing, MRO support and upgrades of existing a/c all under one company is far far too much. HAL can't be all things and can't have the monopoly on anything that flies, there is a need for specialisation.

 

[Hareeshu IA MBT]

DRDO is already sub-divided along these lines- there's ADA, DARA, ADE, LRDE, HEMRL, ARDE etc etc

The DRDO is simply the name for a network of 52 labs and production units.


I agree HAL is in desperate need of being broken down into smaller entities, having rotary wing, fixed wing, MRO support and upgrades of existing a/c all under one company is far far too much. HAL can't be all things and can't have the monopoly on anything that flies, there is a need for specialisation.

Yes that's my very point . DRDO have been subdivided on basis of projects. But it's all part of DRDO . Isn't it . We need to have separate R&D as big as DRDO than being a part of DRDO . AS THE FUTURE REQUIREMENTS IS TOO HIGH THE COST OF MMRCA WILL BE LOOKING LIKE PEANUTS ... IN THE FUTURE TECHNOLOGY.

IN BEST ON MORE MAN POWER THAN SEND INDIA ON IMPORTS .AM I RIGHT

Thank you both on you for ur reply . Now I can be assured that these ind of thoughts are buzzing around everywhere. So let's hope for drastic measures from the Government of India

 

[Kinetic]

DRDO should be divided into 4 different R&D . Each should be focusing of Different platform like . Not as separate DRDO teams but as big as DRDO itself. ! ! ! And bring in the experienced weapon scientists all around tge world with good pay . Its better than paying billions for the imported weapon system . India will be investing atleast 500 billion for tge armed forces in the future. Future technology will be very very very high price tag.

My proposed plan :-

- Missiles and radar R&D

- Small-Heavy arms for the Armed forces

- Futuristic naval ships and subs technology

- Futuristic Aerospace technology with must involve R&D of Aircrafts and the avionics etc . It should cover the entire air warfare from fighter jets to UCAV
Every one should be reporting to defence Minister and the PM every month . Which must be followed up by the user and report on their observations.

As you know we already have separate DRDO/ADA teams working on different projects . But what I proposed will have entirely separate R&Ds with separate funding and separate goals to achieve. This will improve our quality and productivity . We can expect a great chance to get our weapons on time atleast one project won't be put into coma but works will continue in all projects simultaneously . What do you think about it ? I there any risk involved ? Or it will Give us technological boost .

May be NRI technicians and skilled labours working abroad musts be roped in to weapon programs . The export of weapons will always be accompanied with further development of the product. India already aspire to become a major global player and leader in Asian Rim . Many countries including China use already realised the true potential of becoming a weapon supplier from weapon importer.

Right now china is developing many equipments ranging from small arms to Heavy weapons . From drones to Fifth gen fighter jets . These projects are heavily funded and the technologies are either bought or stolen by hacking the systems.

India must follow chinese model of R&D . Buy or Beg or Steal .

More focus and more fund . For better productivity ...

No divining DRDO will create more problems regarding collaborations.

What it needs are,

1) More collaboration with academia and industry. Make them partner. fund and collaborate small projects with them.

2) An aggressive commercial arm with 49% ownership by private companies and fully managed by private companies. A good marketing company should be given resp for DRDO's face-lift.

3) When DRDO products are good they should not be compared with foreign product and Indian armed forces have to buy them.

4) More power to young generation. Go to IITs/NIITs/ renounced universities and compete with private companies to hire best brains with lucrative packages.

5) Do everything that private companies do and kick everything other govt companies and labs do.

 

[Hareeshu IA MBT]

No divining DRDO will create more problems regarding collaborations.

What it needs are,

1) More collaboration with academia and industry. Make them partner. fund and collaborate small projects with them.

2) An aggressive commercial arm with 49% ownership by private companies and fully managed by private companies. A good marketing company should be given resp for DRDO's face-lift.

3) When DRDO products are good they should not be compared with foreign product and Indian armed forces have to buy them.

4) More power to young generation. Go to IITs/NIITs/ renounced universities and compete with private companies to hire best brains with lucrative packages.

5) Do everything that private companies do and kick everything other govt companies and labs do.

Ok you are right and thanks for your info . And I really want to make a point on ur reply. We really don't want to sell DRDO to the private players . They can run their saperate R&D if they want . No one is going to stop that. And I agree with you that pvt must also be roped in. Cool but for this we don't have sell DRDO to private players but partnership will do solve the problem .

What I mentioned was to have 4 R&D body . Like DRDO but with particular Goals. I mean missille expert scientists don't have to design or work for boots and rifles.

Each one will focus on what ever they are given . SO we can field the DRDO sciencst working on Missile as the core team of Missile R&D with improved new work force. And separate fund to full fill the projects.

What do you think

 

[Kinetic]

Ok you are right and thanks for your info . And I really want to make a point on ur reply. We really don't want to sell DRDO to the private players . They can run their saperate R&D if they want . No one is going to stop that. And I agree with you that pvt must also be roped in. Cool but for this we don't have sell DRDO to private players but partnership will do solve the problem .

What I mentioned was to have 4 R&D body . Like DRDO but with particular Goals. I mean missille expert scientists don't have to design or work for boots and rifles.

Each one will focus on what ever they are given . SO we can field the DRDO sciencst working on Missile as the core team of Missile R&D with improved new work force. And separate fund to full fill the projects.

What do you think

Agree but whats the problem in selling minority stake to private industry? I am not talking about DRDO but its commercial arm (Like ISRO has Antrix Corporation).

 

[Bang Galore]

DRDO must design & then send it to the private sector. Most of the time DRDO has fairly decent designs which get mangled up in workmanship in the public sector defence undertakings. At the very least there should be competition with the same design (or with alterations at the company's risk)between the public sector & the private sector.

 

[Hareeshu IA MBT]

Agree but whats the problem in selling minority stake to private industry? I am not talking about DRDO but its commercial arm (Like ISRO has Antrix Corporation).

Absolutely but I think we must have our R&D which is more trustable and 49% is like selling half of the projects developed so far by DRDO. Its just my concern . What u telling is also make sense . But I personally belive that we can do more while having full control over our R&D .

DRDO must design & then send it to the private sector. Most of the time DRDO has fairly decent designs which get mangled up in workmanship in the public sector defence undertakings. At the very least there should be competition with the same design (or with alterations at the company's risk)between the public sector & the private sector.

My friend that's what we need . Highly capable highly motivated and centrated highly on the projects assigned for them .

But right now . DRDO and hall is over stretched and these ongoing projects are very very small when compared to the size and need of our armed forces. I really prefer speaking tge work loads and concentrating on their projects. By dividing in to different R&Ds like the land sea air , missiles , research for futuristic ammunition all the projects will take place simultaneously .

Which will greatly shrinks the time taken to develop the weapon systems in a orderly manner.

No need to hold one project to complete another . Its my basic point.

 

[Hareeshu IA MBT]

Ok the main point is don't need to hold back a project to complete another . Like we are doing with lca LCH AMCA etc. We can't hold back any more . Knifes are near our collar.

 

[Cat Shannon]

we need specialised institutes for :

1. metallurgy

2. radar technology

3. chip manufacturing for our armed forces products.

 

[arp2041]

Ya, it should be divided into FOUR:

1. D

2. R

3. D

4. O

 

[Hareeshu IA MBT]

we need specialised institutes for :

1. metallurgy

2. radar technology

3. chip manufacturing for our armed forces products.

we need specialised institutes for :

1. metallurgy

2. radar technology

3. chip manufacturing for our armed forces products.

Every good initiative . Good way to go . Dividing the world is always good . Take the Ministries we have in our govt. We can have PM control all ministry with the help of babus and many teams but it won't be efficient. That's why we will have separate DM in fews days. That too Jaitley holds only 2 Ministry. R&D is much more complicated than manning a Ministery I guess

Ya, it should be div into FOUR:

1. D

2. R

3. D

4. O

Ho Ho arp. Super man . How do u even think like this very innovative