Divides in Indian Society.

[nForce]

The point that I'm trying to make is that the rate was slowing down. So why all the tamasha? Modi took an existing growth rate and slowed it and got praised for it. Good for him.

OK..Modi was the best choice that India had, when the general elections happened. What was the second best choice ?

 

[nForce]

The steel is produced in Jharkhand.

By a corporate that's headquartered in Maharashtra.

haha.. doc seems like you are defending none but yourself

 

[scorpionx]

What good is your literacy rate if you are continuously voting for a regime for 30 years that did no good but shut down your industries ?

I will take the opportunity to ask in return, what is the use of an industry based economy if large number of labors working in it can't even read, children are not immunized and their homes are without proper sanitation? Will you call it a development then too?

 

[nForce]

I will take the opportunity to ask in return, what is the use of an industry based economy if large number of labors working in it can't even read, children are not immunized and their homes are without proper sanitation? Will you call it a development then too?

are you comparing that Gujarat ?

 

[scorpionx]

are you comparing that Gujarat ?

Yes, precisely.

 

[vsdoc]

As long as Mahrashtra is in India it is cute.

Would be cuter if the leaders they've elected do something about the state of the state so that they do not need to go elsewhere for a living.

haha.. doc seems like you are defending none but yourself

This is not personal.

Biharis deserve a state which their kids do not have to leave once school is done.

Hope Lalu ji and Nitish ji deliver it for them.

Meanwhile I'll look for bacon from the skies.

 

[nForce]

This is not personal.

I'm not a Bihari, thanks though.

Biharis deserve a state which their kids do not have to leave once school is done.

Hope Lalu ji and Nitish ji deliver it for them.

Meanwhile I'll look for bacon from the skies.

cheers doc.

 

[Tricktor]

OK..Modi was the best choice that India had, when the general elections happened. What was the second best choice ?

Why is someone who thinks Modi was the best choice on a Pakistani Forum? So utterly bizarre. I would hope you have better things to do in life.

 

[nForce]

Why is someone who thinks Modi was the best choice on a Pakistani Forum? So utterly bizarre. I would hope you have better things to do in life.

Because I think so and you can do zilch about it.
Now, it's my bedtime. Good night.

 

[vsdoc]

I'm not a Bihari, thanks though.

I know you're not.

But I am.

Wonder why the bongs are most excited though.

Vicarious thrills aside, it would have me most depressed.

Suicidal even.

But that's me.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Joe Shearer]

LMAO! What the f$ck are you talking about? This is a Pakistani forum, in case you didn't know that. I find it bizarre that you even here, with such an attitude. Why not go to an Indian forum?

Where did I say there wasn't an election? OBVIOUSLY I am saying they rejected Modi by not voting for his government. Honestly, the people who nitpick words so heedlessly, and ignore the crux of the argument are the absolute worst.

Why should I not be raising a point? I'll raise whatever point I want. No Modis rise has far less to do with Pakistan and far more to do with India's own religious extremists. In this case, the fundos in Pakistan are all rationalized by Indian attrocities in Kashmir.

I did not say the poor always find appeal in hate and raism, I said the people that do find appeal in this, tend to be poor and uneducated, and this dynamic is seen all over the world.

Okay.

You are hereby given permission to raise silly issues.

Would be cuter if the leaders they've elected do something about the state of the state so that they do not need to go elsewhere for a living.



This is not personal.

Biharis deserve a state which their kids do not have to leave once school is done.

Hope Lalu ji and Nitish ji deliver it for them.

Meanwhile I'll look for bacon from the skies.

Doc, for your information, this is a trend from several centuries ago. It isn't from today or yesterday.

 

[Tricktor]

Because I think so and you can do zilch about it.
Now, it's my bedtime. Good night.

Yes, I know it's what you think, you literally wrote it. Why wouldn't I know that? This is the most meaningless of posts.

I have a theory why you Indians come here. Your actual Indian forums are so pathetic, so rightwing, so full of hate, that even a supporter of a maniacal racist like Modi, finds it too boring and restrictive to free thought. I took a look at some Indian message boards, and holy shit. People openly saying that the murder and rape of innocent Muslims is good. That is literally what was being said. It was a very scary look on India.

Anyway, a country cannot declare war on 150 million of its citizen and still prosper. Modi is truly a disgrace and an insult to a proud country with a rich tradition and icons of peace and understanding like Ghandi. Modi and his mob are truly a stain on India.

I think Indians are fantastic. My best friends have been equal parts Pakistani and Indian. And in America and the UK, we all get along. My best friend is from Mumbai. But the inability for so many to criticize Modi has really surprised me.

It's not a big deal to say he's a scumbag. There's a lot of scumbags in Pakistan. That shouldn't be difficult to admit.

 

[deepak.chauhan2312]

I am returning my award because I’m ashamed of what’s happening in India
Arundhati Roy
Although I do not believe that awards are a measure of the work we do, I would like to add the National award for Best Screenplay that I won in 1989 to the growing pile of returned awards. Also, I want to make it clear that I am not returning this award because I am “shocked” by what is being called the “growing intolerance” being fostered by the present government. First of all, “intolerance” is the wrong word to use for the lynching, shooting, burning and mass murder of fellow human beings. Second, we had plenty of advance notice of what lay in store for us — so I cannot claim to be shocked by what has happened after this government was enthusiastically voted into office with an overwhelming majority. Third, these horrific murders are only a symptom of a deeper malaise. Life is hell for the living too. Whole populations — millions of Dalits, Adivasis, Muslims and Christians — are being forced to live in terror, unsure of when and from where the assault will come.
Today, we live in a country in which, when the thugs and apparatchiks of the new order talk of “illegal slaughter”, they mean the imaginary cow that was killed — not the real man who was murdered. When they talk of taking “evidence for forensic examination” from the scene of the crime, they mean the food in the fridge, not thebody of the lynched man. We say we have “progressed”, but when Dalits are butchered and their children burned alive, which writer today can freely say, like Babasaheb Ambedkar once did, that “to the untouchables, Hinduism is a veritable chamber of horrors”, without getting attacked, lynched, shot or jailed? Which writer can write what Saadat Hasan Manto wrote in his Letters to Uncle Sam? It doesn’t matter whether we agree or disagree with what is being said. If we do not have the right to speak freely, we will turn into a society that suffers from intellectual malnutrition, a nation of fools. Across the subcontinent it has become a race to the bottom — one that the New India has enthusiastically joined. Here too now, censorship has been outsourced to the mob.
I am very pleased to have found (from somewhere way back in my past) a National award that I can return, because it allows me to be a part of a political movement initiated by writers, film-makers and academics in this country who have risen up against a kind of ideological viciousness and an assault on our collective IQ that will tear us apart and bury us very deep if we do not stand up to it now. I believe what artists and intellectuals are doing right now is unprecedented, and does not have a historical parallel. It is politics by other means. I am so proud to be part of it. And so ashamed of what is going on in this country today.

Postscript: For the record, I turned down the Sahitya Akademi award in 2005 when the Congress was in power. So please spare me that old Congress-versus-BJP debate. It has gone way beyond all that. Thanks.
I am returning my award because I’m ashamed of what’s happening in India | Arundhati Roy | Comment is free | The Guardian

arundhati roy seriously ?she would be murdered if residing any other country.She meet with anti nationals she talk anti national I don't know why she was given an award

 

[Tricktor]

arundhati roy seriously ?she would be murdered if residing any other country.She meet with anti nationals she talk anti national I don't know why she was given an award

Not really. What she has said is really not that bad, or big of a deal. She did not insult hinduism.

If people can't even take what she has to say without resorting to violence, that is not a good sign. You should be promoting and encouraging freedom of speech, as long as it is not encouraging violence and hatred.

You should want India to be more open, more freedom of speech, less hatred, and more community. These things would make more more proud of my country. Personally, I don't understand people who don't want this for their country.

 

[Sky lord]

How much of this is lack of self belief on the part of Biharis? - just a thought to put out there.....

They are such a defeated people that they simply cannot imagine that there could ever be a modern or better Bihar - so why not settle for caste based patronage.

Lesson for BJP In this- never allow the opposition to unite completely against you.