Okay just to make this discussion fruitful and focused.
We all agree that India is of Indians and in the some way kashmir is of Kashmiris. Indians can do whatever they want to do with India why Kashmiris ain't allowed the same privilege.
Just ask Kashmiris what they want and let them go their way as its obvious they don't want to be with India.
States are very reluctant to allow break ups & break aways whether it be Pakistan leading up to 1971 ot the US in the civil war. India won't let Kashmir break away, too much of how India sees itself is now connected intrinsically with Kashmir as it is with the formerly remote North East. Kashmiris have pretty much the same rights as all other Indians, no one will be allowed to break away. Not Nagaland, Mizoram, not Tamil Nadu, not Punjab, nobody. Just like Pakistan won't consider a further break up, neither will India. India though, has the means to prevent any break away.
As far as secularism is concerned it means keeping state affairs away from religion are you guys doing that?
No
Secularism is a state attribute, not that of individuals. You will find no constitutional provisions not giving any Indian, regardless of his religion, the same rights as an individual.
Hindus killed Sikhs in golden temple and then to please them offered them many benefits at all levels even the top army slots and Sonia even made a puppet Sikh pm? What did you guys did for pleasing Kashmiris except giving them more bodies?
Hindus did not kill Sikhs at the Golden Temple, the Indian army killed militants. Many of those in the army were Sikh soldiers as were the bulk of the Punjab police that wiped out the militancy. The Indian army has an extraordinarily disproportionate level of Sikhs in the Army compared to percentage of the general population, that was always there. As for Kashmiri representation, you must remember that Nehru was Kashmiri
(though I get your point). The Indian state does a good job of inclusiveness in the long run, the Kashmiris too will get their chance.
India has failed miserably in keeping government affairs free of religious interferences.
People fail the constitution, not the other way around. Happens everywhere. We are not perfect nor do we argue so.
Conditions of Muslims have deteriorated a lot since 47 and I can post dozen articles on the same.
Thats enough for your secularism slogans.
Not really. The Muslim population matrix
(especially in N.India) was skewed with the almost complete removal of the middle class who went to Pakistan. Any reading comparing all classes of Hindus with predominantly lower classes of Muslims will give a skewed reading of their socio-economic condition. When compared with the same class, the differences are not that acute though partition has resulted in a severe body blow to Muslim confidence which is only changing in the last 2 decades. A reading of the Muslim condition in S.India will show a much better inclusion though the effects of partition did not bypass them completely either.
India is of Hindus and only caters their interest at all levels negating secularism completely.
Completely wrong. Many non-Hindus, including on this forum will dispute that.
Just tell me one thing why you guys are mot giving Kashmiris rights of self determination as thats fundamental right of all humans. Mr intellectual and all knowing?
Would Pakistan give Baluchistan that fundamental right? Will China give Tibet? Xinjiang? Turkey, the Kurds? Nation states are reluctant to go that way, nothing out of the ordinary there. You may not like it but you will justify it when the situation points to you, that is the nature of human thought.
