Disappearance of Buddhism from "Non Violent India": An Untold Story

[Tshering22]

The question is why Buddhism had to find its home all the way to Afhganistan but not at its birthplace. We were talking about pre Islamic history even if we take your logic that Muslim just buried them alive.

Simply because in those days Afghanistan and Pakistan were a part of this country? So what "away from home" logic are you talking about?

I will give you a hint; if you're saying that mainstream Hindus "reduced" us or something, they could have easily done it long back. But here's the catch: we both share our ways of life. Our common spirituality but different methods of expression is what makes words difficult for you guys to understand. I will tell you something and I am being realistic; one can only attain enlightenment to a certain level without sacrificing everything. Our monasteries were never destroyed by any mainstream Hindu king even when rival kings would invade each others' kingdoms. In fact, we were encouraged to spread peace, calm and contentment among people alongside mainstream Hindus.

The real catch came only after Islamic invasions started happening. I am sure you have heard what has happened to Nalanda again and again.

Go on, google it. I cannot write down the entire history in comments here.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

our religions are flexible

Really? You think soo?

Who knows how many Alexander the Greats or Cyrus the Greats in India never had the chance to become that, because of their caste??

 

[TopCat]

No, many Hindu dynasties like the Guptas,Satavahana,Harsha,etc,etc patronized Buddhism..

Thats true. and all of them were based on Pataliputra. I am not talking about them.

 

[Tshering22]

This will offend people that are Jain, Buddhist, Sikhs..

My dear friend, I AM myself a Buddhist. Why and how would I offend myself?

 

[TopCat]

Simply because in those days Afghanistan and Pakistan were a part of this country? So what "away from home" logic are you talking about?

I will give you a hint; if you're saying that mainstream Hindus "reduced" us or something, they could have easily done it long back. But here's the catch: we both share our ways of life. Our common spirituality but different methods of expression is what makes words difficult for you guys to understand. I will tell you something and I am being realistic; one can only attain enlightenment to a certain level without sacrificing everything. Our monasteries were never destroyed by any mainstream Hindu king even when rival kings would invade each others' kingdoms. In fact, we were encouraged to spread peace, calm and contentment among people alongside mainstream Hindus.

The real catch came only after Islamic invasions started happening. I am sure you have heard what has happened to Nalanda again and again.

Go on, google it. I cannot write down the entire history in comments here.

That did not answer my question of why Buddhism reduced to only Bengal and Afhganistan before Islam came to sub continent. It could be evenly distributed throughout the subcontinent being Hindu majority.

 

[Tshering22]

Thats true. and all of them were based on Pataliputra. I am not talking about them.

Dude, make up your mind. First you asked me about why Buddhism had to "seek refuge" in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Now when he answered you about hindu empires that patronized and protected us, you're saying "not from Pataliputra". And ALL of them were not based out of Pataliputra. They just happened to conquer each others' kingdoms over time from different provinces.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Thats true. and all of them were based on Pataliputra. I am not talking about them.

You dont know what you're talking about.

Harsha is based in Kanauj and Satavahana in the South..

Even if it's based in Pataliputra it wouldn't matter.

 

[Tshering22]

That did not answer my question of why Buddhism reduced to only Bengal and Afhganistan before Islam came to sub continent.

Nope. It wasn't reduced to anything. There was no "census" in those days to keep a count by region and Buddhists freely moved everywhere all over Bharatvarsha (the old sanskrit name for Indian subcontinent). So there is no clear way of telling where we were reduced to except some crappy politically-motivated articles that have no base.

 

[TopCat]

chinese are not buddhists...they are confucian with influences from buddhism...

authentic buddhism, buddhism that is true to the original teachings of buddha is there only in tibet imo....

Confucias was a pre buddhist man. How can he be influenced by Buddhism?

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Nope. It wasn't reduced to anything. There was no "census" in those days to keep a count by region and Buddhists freely moved everywhere all over Bharatvarsha (the old sanskrit name for Indian subcontinent). So there is no clear way of telling where we were reduced to except some crappy politically-motivated articles that have no base.

Then why only the name of Afhganistan and Bengal comes to your History book where Buddhist were masacared? Islam was all over the places right?

 

[Kazhugu]

Really? You think soo?

Who knows how many Alexander the Greats or Cyrus the Greats in India never had the chance to become that, because of their caste??

chandragupta was supposed to be from a obc caste...

 

[TopCat]

You dont know what you're talking about.

Harsha is based in Kanauj and Satavahana in the South..

Even if it's based in Pataliputra it wouldn't matter.

Harsha was single man, not a dynasty more like a warrior. I was talking bout Guptas and part of Maryo who were hindus. All other had very little influence in Pataliputra. South was never a Buddhist place to start with.

 

[Kazhugu]

Confucias was a pre buddhist man. How can he be influenced by Buddhism?

dude.....the chinese culture was based on confucian values and it was influenced latter by the arrival of buddhism in han china under bodhisatva....

today's chinese culture is confucian that is influenced by buddhism also...

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Harsha was single man, not a dynasty more like a warrior. I was talking bout Guptas and part of Maryo who were hindus. All other had very little influence in Pataliputra. South was never a Buddhist place to start with.

Under the Satavahanas, yes it was.


There were many that patronized Buddhism after the Mauryans, that wasn't based in Pataliputra.


And even if it was from Pataliputra, why does it matter?

 

[TopCat]

@iajdani

You attempt of establishing that Hindus and Buddhists did not get along, Buddhists were prosecuted against by Hindu rulers, and Buddhists were already extinct in India before the arrival of Islamic Invaders is not true.

Indian rulers switched religions between Hinduism and Buddhism since both being Indic religions and did not prosecute against either religions.

During the time of Guptas, Muaryas, Harsha, Palas they changed their religions between Hinduism and Buddhism but both religions were official religions of India. Even during the rule of Sena dynasty Buddhism was one of the state religion and they weren't prosecuted against but Buddhism in general declined since the arrival of Islamic Invaders and after the demolition of their universities.

Decline of Buddhism in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

they switched religion?? Who? Only maryo took buddhism. Gupta all alon Hindus but maintained most of the status quo of maryo. Palas were all along Buddhist never Hindus.

 

[Kazhugu]

Harsha was single man, not a dynasty more like a warrior. I was talking bout Guptas and part of Maryo who were hindus. All other had very little influence in Pataliputra. South was never a Buddhist place to start with.

you really dont know what you are talking about right ?

guptas and mauryas patronized both hinduism and buddhism...chnadragupta also patronized jainism...

there was extensive presence of buddhism in south centered around kanchipuram in tamil nadu....it became corrupted and later hinduism saw a resurgence once the cholas re-converted to hinduism under the influence of the shaivite saints (nayanmars)...

heck boddhidharma, the man who took buddhism to china was supposed to be from south india...