Differences between Bengali Hindu and Bengali Muslim

[Buddhistforlife]

Funny part is Bengal muslims are mostly converts from Buddhism, Persian and Turkic settlers... Bengali Hindus remained Hindus and had no reason to convert when they were the top 1 percent of society. anyways who cares what a woman wears, ive seen burqa clad women get fucked by non Muslims and those revealing women often protecting their dignity by avoiding extramarital relations... so I don’t understand the point of your post


Bihari and Assamese are scums. Worse than bengalis... trust me you’ll not want them once you interacted with one

I heard that Buddhism was wiped out from the Indian subcontinent by Muslims.

I mean Bakhtiyar Khilji did many atrocities against Buddhists.

@Michael Corleone

 

[Michael Corleone]

Bengali Muslims are mostly converts from Low Caste Hindus and Buddhists. During Sena rule many Buddhism was already suppressed.

bengali hindus never converted to islam... islam in bengal was introduced by the invading armies of buddhists rulers who converted to islam.
this is a good video with detailed explanation
so the fact that bengals non muslims were forced converts by the turks is just a lie

 

[Buddhistforlife]

bengali hindus never converted to islam... islam in bengal was introduced by the invading armies of buddhists rulers who converted to islam.
this is a good video with detailed explanation
so the fact that bengals non muslims were forced converts by the turks is just a lie

These are all theories. Ancestors of Bangladeshi muslims are both Hindus and Buddhists.

Even during the Mughal era majority of the population of East Bengal was hindu which indicates strong presence of Hinduism in East Bengal.

Buddhism was already weak after the fall of Pala empire and rise of Sena empire.

@Michael Corleone

bengali hindus never converted to islam... islam in bengal was introduced by the invading armies of buddhists rulers who converted to islam.
this is a good video with detailed explanation
so the fact that bengals non muslims were forced converts by the turks is just a lie

Also many Muslims in Bangladesh inherited hindu names and titles.

I have never seen any Muslims with "Barua" or "Mutsuddy" title which is a Bengali Buddhist title.

bengali hindus never converted to islam... islam in bengal was introduced by the invading armies of buddhists rulers who converted to islam.
this is a good video with detailed explanation
so the fact that bengals non muslims were forced converts by the turks is just a lie

Saha, Biswas, Mondol, Sinha etc are Hindu names inherited by muslims. If most muslims were from Buddhist then Barua and Mutsuddy would have been muslim titles.

In India many muslims converted from Hinduism and they have Rajput, Rao etc hindu titles.

 

[Michael Corleone]

These are all theories. Ancestors of Bangladeshi muslims are both Hindus and Buddhists.

Even during the Mughal era majority of the population of East Bengal was hindu which indicates strong presence of Hinduism in East Bengal.

Buddhism was already weak after the fall of Pala empire and rise of Sena empire.

@Michael Corleone


Also many Muslims in Bangladesh inherited hindu names and titles.

I have never seen any Muslims with "Barua" or "Mutsuddy" title which is a Bengali Buddhist title.


Saha, Biswas, Mondol, Sinha etc are Hindu names inherited by muslims. If most muslims were from Buddhist then Barua and Mutsuddy would have been muslim titles.

In India many muslims converted from Hinduism and they have Rajput, Rao etc hindu titles.

well then if what i say are just theories, then what you say are just that too

bengali hindus migrated to west bengal and also didn't want a united bengal because there was muslims in the region in 47

as for inheriting names... there's no rule in islam that names should be that of arab origin... just shouldn't have polytheist connotations....
the same can be seen in pakistan where people have names such as chaudhary and such
khan inherited from mongols who were mostly pagan... doesn't mean they were forced converts

lower caste hindus mostly sought conversion to christianity from missionaries and tbh a better choice than worshipping clay dolls

 

[Buddhistforlife]

well then if what i say are just theories, then what you say are just that too

bengali hindus migrated to west bengal and also didn't want a united bengal because there was muslims in the region in 47

as for inheriting names... there's no rule in islam that names should be that of arab origin... just shouldn't have polytheist connotations....
the same can be seen in pakistan where people have names such as chaudhary and such
khan inherited from mongols who were mostly pagan... doesn't mean they were forced converts

lower caste hindus mostly sought conversion to christianity from missionaries and tbh a better choice than worshipping clay dolls

You did not get what I have said.

There are many hindus who converted to Islam in India but kept their surnames like Rajputs who converted to Islam still kept their rajput name.

In Bangladesh muslims have hindu surnames like Biswas, Sinha, Mondol etc which indicates that ancestors of Bangladeshi muslims included Hindus.

If most were Buddhist converts then you would have found muslims in Bangladesh with Barua surname or Mutsuddy surname.

well then if what i say are just theories, then what you say are just that too

bengali hindus migrated to west bengal and also didn't want a united bengal because there was muslims in the region in 47

as for inheriting names... there's no rule in islam that names should be that of arab origin... just shouldn't have polytheist connotations....
the same can be seen in pakistan where people have names such as chaudhary and such
khan inherited from mongols who were mostly pagan... doesn't mean they were forced converts

lower caste hindus mostly sought conversion to christianity from missionaries and tbh a better choice than worshipping clay dolls

Bengali Hindus migrated from West bengal? Bro are you for real?

Do you know the story of Hazrat Shahjalal?

Sylhet was ruled by Hindu king Gour Govinda and most of the Sylhetis back then were hindus. Gour Govinda killed a muslim man for sacrificing a cow. This is when Hazrat Shahjalal attacked Sylhet.


Hindus did not migrate into East bengal. Hindus were here. Even during Pala rule there were Hindus but I'm not sure whether they were in majority or minority.

 

[Michael Corleone]

You did not get what I have said.

There are many hindus who converted to Islam in India but kept their surnames like Rajputs who converted to Islam still kept their rajput name.

In Bangladesh muslims have hindu surnames like Biswas, Sinha, Mondol etc which indicates that ancestors of Bangladeshi muslims included Hindus.

If most were Buddhist converts then you would have found muslims in Bangladesh with Barua surname or Mutsuddy surname.

in bangladesh many people do not event have a legitimate surname...
be it lack of tracing back ancestors, assuming any name as surname or lack of a surname at all...
this method of identifying someones ancestry is inconclusive and as such the argument, invalid
my only point is there's no signs of forced conversion in bengal... any such claims is bogus

Bengali Hindus migrated from West bengal? Bro are you for real?

Do you know the story of Hazrat Shahjalal?

Sylhet was ruled by Hindu king Gour Govinda and most of the Sylhetis back then were hindus. Gour Govinda killed a muslim man for sacrificing a cow. This is when Hazrat Shahjalal attacked Sylhet.


Hindus did not migrate into East bengal. Hindus were here. Even during Pala rule there were Hindus but I'm not sure whether they were in majority or minority.

read carefully before you comment... and stack all your reply under one... stop multiple replies

 

[Buddhistforlife]

in bangladesh many people do not event have a legitimate surname...
be it lack of tracing back ancestors, assuming any name as surname or lack of a surname at all...
this method of identifying someones ancestry is inconclusive and as such the argument, invalid
my only point is there's no signs of forced conversion in bengal... any such claims is bogus


read carefully before you comment... and stack all your reply under one... stop multiple replies

my only point is there's no signs of forced conversion in bengal.

Amongst all three Abrahamic faith, only Christianity was spread peacefully.

Christianity was not spread by rulers but by missionaries.

Islam spread when Muslim kingdoms spread.

Christians were weak when the Roman Empire accepted Christianity and it spread into Europe.

Christianity was spread in South America and USA by non violent ways.

But Islam spread Into Asia after the Caliphate s conquered lands.

Now tell me historically who conducted forces conversions? Christian or Muslim?

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

You're both idiots, what will you gain by arguing about this stupid topic ?

 

[Species]

These are all theories. Ancestors of Bangladeshi muslims are both Hindus and Buddhists.

Even during the Mughal era majority of the population of East Bengal was hindu which indicates strong presence of Hinduism in East Bengal.

Buddhism was already weak after the fall of Pala empire and rise of Sena empire.

@Michael Corleone


Also many Muslims in Bangladesh inherited hindu names and titles.

I have never seen any Muslims with "Barua" or "Mutsuddy" title which is a Bengali Buddhist title.


Saha, Biswas, Mondol, Sinha etc are Hindu names inherited by muslims. If most muslims were from Buddhist then Barua and Mutsuddy would have been muslim titles.

In India many muslims converted from Hinduism and they have Rajput, Rao etc hindu titles.

Few things:

At the end of Pala Empire, Hindus and Buddhists were in pretty much 50-50 share. Senas did discriminate against Buddhists but mass conversions didn't happen. Buddhists were only left with lower status than Hindus.

Most of these Buddhists converted to Islam during Bengal Sultanate period. Also a large part of East Bengal were inhabitable forests which were transformed into agricultural lands under feudal societies during the Mughal rule. This means Muslims were the first inhabitants in many of these lands in East Bengal.

There were no proper census in Bengal over religious lines until the British arrived. And the first such census in the 19th century revealed Muslims were the majority in entire Bengal. It is very much plausible that Muslims were already dominating the demographics, at least in East Bengal, during Bengal Sultanate and Mughal period.

Although, it's also true that some Hindus did convert to Islam during that time, mostly to enjoy the privilege entitled to Muslims, like rest of the subcontinent.

 

[Michael Corleone]

my only point is there's no signs of forced conversion in bengal.

Amongst all three Abrahamic faith, only Christianity was spread peacefully.

Christianity was not spread by rulers but by missionaries.

Islam spread when Muslim kingdoms spread.

Christians were weak when the Roman Empire accepted Christianity and it spread into Europe.

Christianity was spread in South America and USA by non violent ways.

But Islam spread Into Asia after the Caliphate s conquered lands.

Now tell me historically who conducted forces conversions? Christian or Muslim?

before having a say on abrahamic faiths... you need to learn their about them and their history

christianity was the most violent in it's spread... dude please don't talk about stuff you don't know

You're both idiots, what will you gain by arguing about this stupid topic ?

i left this thread a long time ago... but this dude keeps @ me every couple of days on stupid thread like this...

 

[Buddhistforlife]

Few things:

At the end of Pala Empire, Hindus and Buddhists were in pretty much 50-50 share. Senas did discriminate against Buddhists but mass conversions didn't happen. Buddhists were only left with lower status than Hindus.

Most of these Buddhists converted to Islam during Bengal Sultanate period. Also a large part of East Bengal were inhabitable forests which were transformed into agricultural lands under feudal societies during the Mughal rule. This means Muslims were the first inhabitants in many of these lands in East Bengal.

There were no proper census in Bengal over religious lines until the British arrived. And the first such census in the 19th century revealed Muslims were the majority in entire Bengal. It is very much plausible that Muslims were already dominating the demographics, at least in East Bengal, during Bengal Sultanate and Mughal period.

Although, it's also true that some Hindus did convert to Islam during that time, mostly to enjoy the privilege entitled to Muslims, like rest of the subcontinent.

Although, it's also true that some Hindus did convert to Islam during that time, mostly to enjoy the privilege entitled to Muslims, like rest of the subcontinent.

So you are trying to say that Muslim rulers discriminated hindus and gave more rights to muslims?

@Species

 

[Species]

Amongst all three Abrahamic faith, only Christianity was spread peacefully.

Christianity was not spread by rulers but by missionaries.

Islam spread when Muslim kingdoms spread.

Christians were weak when the Roman Empire accepted Christianity and it spread into Europe.

Christianity was spread in South America and USA by non violent ways.

But Islam spread Into Asia after the Caliphate s conquered lands.

Now tell me historically who conducted forces conversions? Christian or Muslim?

You can't be more wrong.

Read the colonial history of the Americas.

Forced Muslim conversions might have happen in the western part of South Asia but not in Bengal and Southeast Asia.

Although, it's also true that some Hindus did convert to Islam during that time, mostly to enjoy the privilege entitled to Muslims, like rest of the subcontinent.

So you are trying to say that Muslim rulers discriminated hindus and gave more rights to muslims?

@Species

Not rights, but privileges.

It was easier for Muslims from well-off families to join administration or military. And that's why some Hindus chose to convert to Islam. Kalapahar, a general from Bengal Sultanate is an example.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalapahad

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Forced Muslim conversions might have happen in the western part of South Asia

They did not, and this is way off topic.

 

[Species]

They did not, and this is way off topic.

They did actually. Islam was spread by generals in western South Asia and traders or pirs in Bengal and Southeast Asia. Anyway, I won't dig further as it's off-topic.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

They did actually. Islam was spread by generals in western South Asia and traders or pirs in Bengal and Southeast Asia. Anyway, I won't dig further as it's off-topic.

Talk about BD, don't delve into matters which you do not know.

That requires a whole other thread to correct your wrong ideas. I will suffice with just these posts.

Keep Pakistan (and Afghanistan, Occupied Kashmir, etc.) out of this thread.

To answer your misconception, I will explain this, vast majority of people in IVC region converted to Islam via Afghan and Iranian preachers.