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Did we shoot our own passenger plane?

Something is indeed disturbing and very off with this incident. The way the US and some other countries immediately jumped on "the plane was shot down by a Iran missile" without having ANY PERSONNEL in Iran inspecting the incident for themselves as opposed to other shootdown incidents such as the Malaysian airliner over Ukraine which took a while to investigate.

What is really off is the clip that news sites are reporting as "the time of impact of the missile with the plane". How come someone is just randomly standing in the middle of the street and just happens to think of turning on his camera and pointing it the sky and catching the explosion (if you look at the video closely you don't see the missile trail and the sky is totally black until just a few seconds before the impact you see the light missile trail and explosion) which means that someone was just standing there and EXPECTING that to happen.

But then there is the fact that this was a relatively new and recently serviced plane with a very competent flight crew and the fact they sent no distress call while turning back? And the incident just happening minutes after the Iran strikes and US "shutting off all commercial flights in the area"? There is definitely some foul play involved, just who or what that is is actually not very clear at the moment. I wouldn't rule out any black ops / electronic warfare by US either.
 
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But then there is the fact that this was a relatively new and recently serviced plane with a very competent flight crew and the fact they sent no distress call while turning back? And the incident just happening minutes after the Iran strikes and US "shutting off all commercial flights in the area"? There is definitely some foul play involved, just who or what that is is actually not very clear at the moment. I wouldn't rule out any black ops / electronic warfare by US either.

An other 737-800 had a burning engine at the same time at an israeli airpot. If one want to go full force paranoid, then he can question if the status data-transfer of the engines of boeing airplanes, send to boeing in US, is two way...
 
An other 737-800 had a burning engine at the same time at an israeli airpot. If one want to go full force paranoid, then he can question if the status data-transfer of the engines of boeing airplanes, send to boeing in US, is two way...
source?
 
According to the numerous comments from this video, this seems like fuel that cought fire from the ejection cable

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This is just a tailpipe fire - ofen happens on the ground when unburnt fuel catches alight when the engines are restarted. Easy to extinguish by shutting down & restarting again...

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"There is false information circulating about an "engine fire" on one of our aircraft. WB 503 from Tel Aviv to Kigali yesterday experienced a tailpipe fire while on the ground. This is a common occurrence caused by unburnt fuel in the exhaust nozzle of the engine. 1/2"
 
Downing of this airplane looks like a CIA diversion designed for two purposes:

1) distract public attention from humiliating Iranian strikes against US bases

2) blame Iran and portrait it as an evil country that is responsible for downing of this airplane
 
Ukrain FM says "no evidence of terror attack". Maybe he talk about on board bombs.
 
If a missile had hit airplane would explode immediately.
no its not but make it hundreds of holes
like this

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https://www.thejournal.ie/mh17-official-report-buk-2385209-Oct2015/
 
PAF manages to shoot down an IAF MiG-21(and they complain about F-5s being old!) a year ago and most Pakistani members here Jumped up and down like they had done the unthinkable!!! LOL

Pakistan also shot down Su 30 and for your information, PAF has shot down more planes than any other airforce of the world after ww2. Check 1965 and 1971 war records.

Actually Iran f**d up the things themselves when they said no to Boeing/black box for investigation but as voices from International community started to raise, they quickly changed their stance. While gullible Iranis here on pdf were posting idiotic explanations that why Iran is not allowing Boeing bla bla and all the shit. If Iran is confident enough that none of their SAM took the plane out than should had let anybody in for the investigation.
 
Lastly Qasim Solemani murder has really turned out to be bad for the Iranians.

First stampede, where 50+ Iranians lost their lives for nothing than Aircrash, possibly by the Iranians themselves. 82 Iranians were on board. 65 Canadian Iranians were also killed. So around 200 Iranis killed in the aftermath of one single US drone strike on a moving car. This is really sad and astonishing. Meanwhile, no American killed all this time.
 

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