Did the US really fund and masterminded ISIS terrorism in the Middle East ?

[That Guy]

Everything dies with time.

Sure, but in this case, it's not any time soon.

 

[tower9]

Indeed either he is Indian or he is literally a CIA agent.

While we do have few members who have largely similar opinions to striver, however they do not continuously and consistently spam the forum with threads and replies all day long so we can safely say they are not false flaggers or agents.

Yet for Striver it is different, for the past several months he has been posting several threads a day!

So not only does he consistently repeat CIA talking points on almost every single issue around the world but he also spends quite alot of time replying and spamming threads all day, all week and for several months without any interruption! either he has no job or spamming pro CIA threads and replys literally is his job and he lives off of it. LOL may be I'm giving him too much credit and he really is just a jobless Indian who came here from that Bharat raksh*t forum to troll around.

In addition, he can’t even speak bahasa Indonesian.

 

[obj 705A]

I f*****g can.

So that means you are either a CIA asset in Indonesia or you are a hindu in Indonesia.

 

[tower9]

I f*****g can.

Then why do you refuse to record yourself speaking it?

 

[Abid123]

Did the US really fund and mastermind isis terrorism in the middle east? The answer is Yes. Watch Ken O'Keefe who is a former US marine. The video is only 7 minutes long. I would recommend everybody to watch it.

 

[striver44]

Did the US really fund and mastermind isis terrorism in the middle east? The answer is Yes. Watch Ken O'Keefe who is a former US marine. The video is only 7 minutes long. I would recommend everybody to watch it.

So your proof that the USA is directly involved in the creation of ISIS is some nobody ex- US marines which has no say and access whatsoever to the top US foreign policy architect.

All I saw in this video are a bunch of nobody in a circle jerk accusing the US o doing something it has nothing to do with, without the slightest evidence.

I mean it's RT, what do you expect?

 

[Abid123]

So your proof that the USA is directly involved in the creation of ISIS is some nobody ex- US marines which has no say and access whatsoever to the top US foreign policy architect.

All I saw in this video are a bunch of nobody in a circle jerk accusing the US o doing something it has nothing to do with, without the slightest evidence.

I mean it's RT, what do you expect?

I am not going to waste my time on a ignorant fool like you. Are you even Indonesian? You sound more like a Indian. Also who the hell are you to decide who is a "nobody" or who has any say? This guy is more credible than you will ever be.

"All I saw in this video are a bunch of nobody in a circle jerk accusing the US o doing something it has nothing to do with, without the slightest evidence". Do you have evidence for that? I guess you dont have it? Better Shut up....

"I mean it's RT, what do you expect"? I guess you prefer CNN or FOX NEWS?

 

[striver44]

I am not going to waste my time on a ignorant fool like you. Are you even Indonesian? You sound more like a Indian. Also who the hell are you to decide who is a "nobody" or who has any say? This guy is more credible than you will ever be.

"All I saw in this video are a bunch of nobody in a circle jerk accusing the US o doing something it has nothing to do with, without the slightest evidence". Do you have evidence for that? I guess you dont have it? Better Shut up....

"I mean it's RT, what do you expect"? I guess you prefer CNN or FOX NEWS?

Ok here's the summary of the video you shared with me.

here we go.

minute 0:23

the premise the whole so called war on terror a.k.a investing in the mujahideen

I don't know if he's willfully ignorant, but the war on terror has nothing to do with investing in the mujahideen , he's mixing US military operation in the middle east since 2001 with that of US arming and funding of the Afghan mujahideen that happened in the 1980s, in which Pakistan is accomplice.

this is typical Russian disinformation campaign targeting the weakly minded, just because the US has a history of arming the Mujahideen doesn't it continue to do so, even after 911.

the mujahideen are itself a collective group of armed men that fough the Soviets during their invasion of Afghanistan, some of that very same group now were put in power after operation Enduring Freedom by the US, and Russia has a diplomatic relationship with these once mujahideen.

think about general Dostum of the ANA (Afghan National Army) which once was a Mujahideen turned warlord before being a military officer. Here's him with Russian defense minister Sergey Shoigu

now let's move on to minute 0:52

now to do that there's a need for excuse so that Israel could expand, and to do that we have to sow the seeds of sectarianism and violence in the region, the #1 target of this operation was Iraq

As I've explained before, the US might have it's own share of enabling Isis rise in Iraq due to bad understanding of locals and sectarianism, but frankly there's a difference between enabling your enemy to rise unwillingly and actually funding and arming ISIS.

in fact sectarianism in the middle east is already there before Israel even exist.
minute 1:24

when we look at Syria, the goal is once again the same thing (Sow sectarianism)

add that to the sectarian nature of Bashar Al Assad in Syria, and there's no surprise why the majority Sunni people of Syria look to the Salafi Jihadists as their defense against the Shia sectarian Bashar Al Assad of Syria.

This has nothing to do with greater Israel or the CIA.

and the funny part, minute 1:36

ISIS stands for Israeli Secret Intelligence Service

yeah, yeah he hit the jackpot there , his going to be very popular among conspiracy theorist hmmmm
now let's move on to minute 1:41

many people are seeing the benefit (to Israel) of the disintegration of Syria

you gotta give credit to the incompetent Syrian Arab Army for failing to ensure the security of the state, not to mention the whole Syrian revolution will not happen if Bashar and his cronies are not a murderous despots. which only give millions of Syrian the will to fight him.

now move to minute 2:01

all of thiese people (Obama, Clinton etc) are liars

he didn't gave any evidence, whatsoever, just pure nonsense.

now to the ISIS part, starting in 2:28

We've been arming ISIS in In Jordan

Lmao, ISIS never ever reach the Israeli border from Syria through Golan heights let alone Jordan, the one's receiving Israeli aid and contacted the Israeli is the FSA (free Syrian Army) not ISIS.

he goes on blaming Qatar and Saudi Arabia for arming ISIS, even though there's no truth to it, at the time Saudi troops on the ground are the like of Islamic front, Ahral Al Sham and Jaysh Al Islam, which heavily are engaged in a bitter fight with ISIS for most of the time.

here's another cringe, minute 3:09

the US is planning another Pearl harbor like attack to achieve full spectrum dominance

I mean like, WTF???
here's what a full spectrum dominance is

Full-spectrum dominance - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The United States Department of Defense defines "full-spectrum superiority" as:

The cumulative effect of dominance in the air, land, maritime, and space domains and information environment, which includes cyberspace, that permits the conduct of joint operations without effective opposition or prohibitive interference.[1]

the US had already achieved full spectrum dominance without having any need for another Pearl Harbor

and in the minute 3;45

for 50 years we've been fighting this cold war that really was an absolute Charade to begin with, they're never was a threat of a Soviet Invasion wahtsoever and for decade we've spent billions developing nuclear weapons to the point of insanity

I wonder what those Soviet army in the Eastern Europe are preparing for during the cold war, and I wonder why he's not pointing it to the Soviets (Russian) consider they're also engaged in nuke arms race and it affects their economy severely more than the US.

in which suddenly out of nowhere he jumped the topics back into Bashar and how without Bashar Syria will be occupied by AL-Qaeda, if there's one thing I know about the war on ISIS in both Syria and Iraq, is that the US delivers the blow while Assad is only good at resupplying ISIS with arms abandoned in the battlefield by his thugs and militias.


This Ken O Keffe is a moron and so does people listening to him

 

[hualushui]

 

[Trango Towers]

Bro, we have captured in tribal areas of Pakistan , following type of people:
1) Israeli soldiers
2) American contractors
3) Cia operatives
4) Indian agents, even their serving military officers + intelligence officers.
5) mercenaries who were just shipped from Syria to Afghanistan by USA airforce.
6) UAE backed insuragents
7) Even agents of those countries who claim to be our friends.

Trust me, we know, I know way more than what is mentioned in OP. It's just we don't want to reveal it.

If you know them shoot them

 

[fitpOsitive]

If you know them shoot them

Shooting is wastage, when you already have captured them. Shooting is only good, when you can't capture them eg Ajit Doval

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

It is a well know fact that former US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has openly admitted USA created the ISIS.