Did Najam Sethi blamed Gen Zaheer of mutiny ?

[Zarvan]

Guys check this video famous retard Sethi comes up with new stupidity . Sethi suggests that Gen Zaheer was supporting Dharna to not just over throw PML N Government but also General Raheel Shareef. Army needs to take notice of it ask him for proof and if doesn't give than they need to teach this man a lesson.
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[A.M.]

The only idiot here is you.

Sethi has been on point from the beginning unlike some other 'journalists' who are nowhere to be found nowadays.

He backs everything he says with proper analysis and professionalism. The problem is that the truth is too much to handle for some individuals such as yourself.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Guys check this video famous retard Sethi comes up with new stupidity . Sethi suggests that Gen Zaheer was supporting Dharna to not just over throw PML N Government but also General Raheel Shareef. Army needs to take notice of it ask him for proof and if doesn't give than they need to teach this man a lesson.
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Sethi was commenting on PTI's Brig (retd) Samson's interview.

Please look at the whole program of Aaapas ki baat.

Sethi has his past, but this particular incident should not be used to attack him.

If at all,

you should have jumped on Brig rtd Samson for talking about "jackals" around Immi Khan. And these jackals were apparently working for Gen. Zaheer

 

[Viper0011.]

Guys check this video famous retard Sethi comes up with new stupidity . Sethi suggests that Gen Zaheer was supporting Dharna to not just over throw PML N Government but also General Raheel Shareef. Army needs to take notice of it ask him for proof and if doesn't give than they need to teach this man a lesson.
@WebMaster @Horus @Oscar @Jango @Jungibaaz @Arsalan @ajpirzada @Areesh @Leader @Jazzbot @Irfan Baloch @Sulman Badshah @kaonalpha @Slav Defence @Icarus @rockstar08 @mr42O @Spring Onion @Jf Thunder @Akheilos

I've personally posted all these details right when the sit ins were starting and since then, on and off about Shuja Pasha and Gen. Zaheer's role. I don't think this would be considered a "mutiny" as nothing actually happened. But from what I know is that Gen. Raheel took some action immediately after he had a lengthy discussion about this issue with NS, right before the attacks on tv, and the parliament, etc, (when IK was saying the third empire is "about to" raise his finger.

Gen. Raheel had assured the PM that the system will not be allowed to be derailed and that the military needed to remain in its cantonments. He did ask the PM to help grow Pakistan as the military needed advance equipment in size and numbers very quickly. NS committed to do everything for the military and asked the General that he needed a peaceful Pakistan to bring in investments and business, and that he too wants to just turn Pakistan into an advance nation.

Gen. Raheel assured NS that he would fight till the last man to remove these violent terrorists out of Pakistan.

This sit in crap brought the Army Chief and the PM extremely close together, and it actually worked out well in Pakistan's favor. Since then, they discuss all matters together and no issues are left in hearts to wonder. So now, the General has his responsibilities to clean up the mess of extremists and all, and the NS has its own set of goals, to turn Pakistan into a modern and faster growing economy. This is how a system works and its great for Pakistan. The system has matured a LOT, and the economy has been making good progress too

Gen. Shuja Pasha was told not to interfere in Pakistan's internal matters by Gen. Raheel. Gen. Zaheer won't be a factor since this took place. But within the military ranks, the corps commanders and some other "dignitaries" know that he's been instructed by Gen. Raheel to stay clear from the civilian government's path and let them complete their turn and advance the country. I think this ends the story, time to move on!!!

And a BIG thank you to Gen. Raheel Shariff. He's hands down, the best Army Chief Pakistan has had. The guy knows what takes Pakistan forward and he and his men are working on multiple fronts for Pakistan. Now you guys need to ALSO work hard for Pakistan and support the progress being made and do your share. You'll take your country to new heights and levels as the economy grows.

By the way, I have said it before the sit ins, and I maintain that stance, the sit ins were a conspiracy against Pakistan, its democratically elected government, and its military. These reports just prove what I've been saying for over a year!

 

[macnurv]

Guys check this video famous retard Sethi comes up with new stupidity . Sethi suggests that Gen Zaheer was supporting Dharna to not just over throw PML N Government but also General Raheel Shareef. Army needs to take notice of it ask him for proof and if doesn't give than they need to teach this man a lesson.
@WebMaster @Horus @Oscar @Jango @Jungibaaz @Arsalan @ajpirzada @Areesh @Leader @Jazzbot @Irfan Baloch @Sulman Badshah @kaonalpha @Slav Defence @Icarus @rockstar08 @mr42O @Spring Onion @Jf Thunder @Akheilos

Zarvan, you seem to be infatuated by hatred for NS, and by the way Sethi had been right about almost all the things he had stated.

The only idiot here is you.

Sethi has been on point from the beginning unlike some other 'journalists' who are nowhere to be found nowadays.

He backs everything he says with proper analysis and professionalism. The problem is that the truth is too much to handle for some individuals such as yourself.

Yup, but its too much to handle for PTI'ers and IK fanboys.

I've personally posted all these details right when the sit ins were starting and since then, on and off about Shuja Pasha and Gen. Zaheer's role. I don't think this would be considered a "mutiny" as nothing actually happened. But from what I know is that Gen. Raheel took some action immediately after he had a lengthy discussion about this issue with NS, right before the attacks on tv, and the parliament, etc, (when IK was saying the third empire is "about to" raise his finger.

Gen. Raheel had assured the PM that the system will not be allowed to be derailed and that the military needed to remain in its cantonments. He did ask the PM to help grow Pakistan as the military needed advance equipment in size and numbers very quickly. NS committed to do everything for the military and asked the General that he needed a peaceful Pakistan to bring in investments and business, and that he too wants to just turn Pakistan into an advance nation.

Gen. Raheel assured NS that he would fight till the last man to remove these violent terrorists out of Pakistan.

This sit in crap brought the Army Chief and the PM extremely close together, and it actually worked out well in Pakistan's favor. Since then, they discuss all matters together and no issues are left in hearts to wonder. So now, the General has his responsibilities to clean up the mess of extremists and all, and the NS has its own set of goals, to turn Pakistan into a modern and faster growing economy. This is how a system works and its great for Pakistan. The system has matured a LOT, and the economy has been making good progress too

Gen. Shuja Pasha was told not to interfere in Pakistan's internal matters by Gen. Raheel. Gen. Zaheer won't be a factor since this took place. But within the military ranks, the corps commanders and some other "dignitaries" know that he's been instructed by Gen. Raheel to stay clear from the civilian government's path and let them complete their turn and advance the country. I think this ends the story, time to move on!!!

And a BIG thank you to Gen. Raheel Shariff. He's hands down, the best Army Chief Pakistan has had. The guy knows what takes Pakistan forward and he and his men are working on multiple fronts for Pakistan. Now you guys need to ALSO work hard for Pakistan and support the progress being made and do your share. You'll take your country to new heights and levels as the economy grows.

By the way, I have said it before the sit ins, and I maintain that stance, the sit ins were a conspiracy against Pakistan, its democratically elected government, and its military. These reports just prove what I've been saying for over a year!

It was a two prong approach, using PTI and Canadian import Tahir-ul-Qadri to force the military to take action. The planners were banking on a hardliner convincing NS to handle the situation with violence thus paving the way for army to take over. NS played his cards well, I guess he learned his lessons from Lahore carnage and was determined to not repeat the same mistake.
Because of the challenges being faced by Pakistan, it is of utmost importance both the political and military leadership are working in tandem and are on the same page. From time to time there will few hiccups but nothing that can not be resolved. The agents of terror and instability that are found pretty much everywhere try their best to derail this process, but so far have failed.
Furthermore I think Gen. Raheel also realizing this might have purged of such elements from Army as well, but I am not so sure about it.

 

[Viper0011.]

Because of the challenges being faced by Pakistan, it is of utmost importance both the political and military leadership are working in tandem and are on the same page.

From time to time there will few hiccups but nothing that can not be resolved. The agents of terror and instability that are found pretty much everywhere try their best to derail this process, but so far have failed.
Furthermore I think Gen. Raheel also realizing this might have purged of such elements from Army as well, but I am not so sure about it.

You are right. The BOLD part from your port is of the utmost importance and folks here need to realize this. Your country is going through the most important time of its history. You guys need to support the system and do your job as a nation, just like the Indians do. They back the system and the government up even if their guy isn't in the power seat.
The military politics are a history now. Gen. Raheel took care of it. The military's code of conduct has been modified and any corps commander or general involved with such attempt, which would result in derailing the system (both political and military), would face a court-marshal. This is the way to do it.

Pakistan at this point, has the right people in both, military and civilian leadership that she needs to grow from all aspects, as a modern country, with peace and stability for all, including great offerings on business investments and incentives for all businesses !!

 

[macnurv]

You are right. The BOLD part from your port is of the utmost importance and folks here need to realize this. Your country is going through the most important time of its history. You guys need to support the system and do your job as a nation, just like the Indians do. They back the system and the government up even if their guy isn't in the power seat.
The military politics are a history now. Gen. Raheel took care of it. The military's code of conduct has been modified and any corps commander or general involved with such attempt, which would result in derailing the system (both political and military), would face a court-marshal. This is the way to do it.

Pakistan at this point, has the right people in both, military and civilian leadership that she needs to grow from all aspects, as a modern country, with peace and stability for all, including great offerings on business investments and incentives for all businesses !!

I agree. Political dissent and a varied opinion is a sign of a thriving democratic system but all out efforts to derail and destabilize the system is a disservice to the whole nation. Its about time we get our house in order. Having said that, there is no magic pill to make everything fine in a day, the mess we are in it will take decades for us to get back on track. But this must begin from somewhere, and I am glad it had begun.

 

[Zarvan]

The only idiot here is you.

Sethi has been on point from the beginning unlike some other 'journalists' who are nowhere to be found nowadays.

He backs everything he says with proper analysis and professionalism. The problem is that the truth is too much to handle for some individuals such as yourself.

Yes that dumbo so called analysis and your comment shows you have no clue on How Army works ? Also How big this allegation is ? But now I think Army would deal with this known traitor.

Zarvan, you seem to be infatuated by hatred for NS, and by the way Sethi had been right about almost all the things he had stated.



Yup, but its too much to handle for PTI'ers and IK fanboys.



It was a two prong approach, using PTI and Canadian import Tahir-ul-Qadri to force the military to take action. The planners were banking on a hardliner convincing NS to handle the situation with violence thus paving the way for army to take over. NS played his cards well, I guess he learned his lessons from Lahore carnage and was determined to not repeat the same mistake.
Because of the challenges being faced by Pakistan, it is of utmost importance both the political and military leadership are working in tandem and are on the same page. From time to time there will few hiccups but nothing that can not be resolved. The agents of terror and instability that are found pretty much everywhere try their best to derail this process, but so far have failed.
Furthermore I think Gen. Raheel also realizing this might have purged of such elements from Army as well, but I am not so sure about it.

Sethi had been wrong almost on all the things he had stated so far

 

[syedali73]

The only idiot here is you.

Count me in too.

@Zarvan A thread on this topic is already running here:

General Zaheer used Imran. His dharna will make Nawaz fire Raheel and then army will take over

 

[macnurv]

Yes that dumbo so called analysis and your comment shows you have no clue on How Army works ? Also How big this allegation is ? But now I think Army would deal with this known traitor.


Sethi had been wrong almost on all the things he had stated so far

And you do? I think you're confusing your Takfiri TTP brothers with PA. Army will be dealing with its black sheep all in good time, and in this particular for all the fuss you might like to make about it, but action speaks louder than words here. General Raheels action leaves no room for any doubts. Feel free to live in fools paradise.

 

[Bang Galore]

It is actually quite clever. Either Gen. Raheel Sharif was involved or he was not. Even if he was involved, he is not about to declare it. That makes the supposed actions of Gen. Zaheer an act of mutiny. If he acted independently of the CoAS (or is now being disowned), the charge made by Najam Sethi would stand. No one can afford to argue otherwise.

 

[FaujHistorian]

It is actually quite clever. Either Gen. Raheel Sharif was involved or he was not. Even if he was involved, he is not about to declare it. That makes the supposed actions of Gen. Zaheer an act of mutiny. If he acted independently of the CoAS (or is now being disowned), the charge made by Najam Sethi would stand. No one can afford to argue otherwise.

Najam Sethi did not charge him or anyone else. He was commenting on another talk show.

That other talk show provided bits and pieces from a PTI leader aka Brig retd Samson Shiroff

And no Gen Sharif played the role of a soldier (and not a politician)

 

[Bang Galore]

Najam Sethi did not charge him or anyone else. He was commenting on another talk show.

That other talk show provided bits and pieces from a PTI leader aka Brig retd Samson Shiroff

And no Gen Sharif played the role of a soldier (and not a politician)

I went with the statement put up by the OP. However the point still stands. As you asserted, if the CoAS was not involved, then Gen Zaheer's supposed actions does amount to mutiny.

 

[Viper0011.]

It is actually quite clever. Either Gen. Raheel Sharif was involved or he was not.

Gen. Raheel wasn't involved. I can say this with 100% certainty and you can take my word for it. I had outlined this entire thing when these meetings were happening, probably the same day too. No need to go scratch the surface anymore, there ain't no gold underneath it for you.

 

[Pakistanisage]

Najam Sethi should be brought in to present his evidence. Freedom of Expression does not mean you are free to fabricate stories to sell air time. Either prove your point backed with evidence or go to jail. As simple as that.