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Did decline of major indian empires played major factor in Islamic invasion and why?


It may help to distinguish between racist system and caste system; the two are not identical. It may also help to look up the facts. The statement above is again wrong.

Its racist caste system when brahmin and dalit in same village speaking same language for thousands of years are still genetically not same. We don't see this in any other IE speaking people.




If you mean genetic differences, that too is incorrect.

We seem to be having difficulty coping with similar genetic profiles speaking different languages; with widely differing genetic profiles speaking the same language; most of all, with the differences between race and genetic profile. In the case of the last two, these are not exchangeable concepts.

Did we look up the Janapada period, and did we notice their characteristics, in terms of the date lines that seem to be under discussion?

It is not intended to hurt your feelings, but you do seem to be out of your depth on this specific issue. However, please feel free to ignore this evaluation and please feel quite free to present your thoughts ignoring all irrelevant chatter.

I didn't look up janapadas, sound like hindu myth. Oldest Indo-aryan skeletons found in Swat were from 1000BC. The entry point of IA in to mainland north India up/bihar was likely 500BC-700BC. And in punjab perhaps 800BC. Give few centuries here and there but surely they didn't pop out everywhere in India as soon as IA tribes moved in from central asia.
 
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I would say the complete opposite. Most Pakistanis always refer to the rule as Muslims rule- " Muslims ruled India for so and so years".

RSS types are not the majority in India.

My honest experience is that we only say that as a way to troll back, no Pakistani sits around talking about ruling India.

For example, just go to any video on youtube about Pakistan. You will always find it infested with Indians. Calling us porkis and what not.

Now go to any video on India, maybe there is a Pakistani there, but 80% chance there will be no a single Pakistani trolling Indians.


This whole "we ruled you" is just a troll reply to RSS internet Hindus.


Now, even if RSS are a minority, they are running the insane asylum. They have their own PM, they get away with lynching, they are in the process of starting the Kashmir genocide.

So yes, even if they are in the minority there, they still have so much power on the ground.
 
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There are probably as many Islamic open defecators in India as Hindus if not more considering their economic condition due to lack of education.
Come again..:coffee:

Hindus are less likely to use a toilet than Muslims in India

Source: https://theprint.in/india/governanc...-to-use-a-toilet-than-muslims-in-india/44959/

Analysing the three most recent rounds of the government of India’s nationally representative survey data, the National Family Health Survey (NFHS) of India, we find Hindus are dramatically more likely than Muslims to openly defecate, meaning they self-report using a bush, field, or no facility rather than a latrine or toilet.

Source: https://www.livemint.com/Opinion/vk...adox-and-the-importance-of-sanitation-fo.html
 
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Come again..:coffee:

Hindus are less likely to use a toilet than Muslims in India

Source: https://theprint.in/india/governanc...-to-use-a-toilet-than-muslims-in-india/44959/

Analysing the three most recent rounds of the government of India’s nationally representative survey data, the National Family Health Survey (NFHS) of India, we find Hindus are dramatically more likely than Muslims to openly defecate, meaning they self-report using a bush, field, or no facility rather than a latrine or toilet.

Source: https://www.livemint.com/Opinion/vk...adox-and-the-importance-of-sanitation-fo.html
A gye hume sudharne.
 
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Come again..:coffee:

Hindus are less likely to use a toilet than Muslims in India

Source: https://theprint.in/india/governanc...-to-use-a-toilet-than-muslims-in-india/44959/

Analysing the three most recent rounds of the government of India’s nationally representative survey data, the National Family Health Survey (NFHS) of India, we find Hindus are dramatically more likely than Muslims to openly defecate, meaning they self-report using a bush, field, or no facility rather than a latrine or toilet.

Source: https://www.livemint.com/Opinion/vk...adox-and-the-importance-of-sanitation-fo.html

25 % Hindus who own toilets dont use it. 10% Muslims who own toilets dont use it. Looks like you first need to teach all in your religion to use toilets first before commenting on Hindus. First achieve hundred per cent then we can talk.

A gye hume sudharne.

Turkic Muslims ruled India for six centuries, if still so many Hindus and Muslims are not using toilets, obviously they didn't do a good job teaching anything to anyone.
 
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Trying to prove the Aryan invasion mythology using British dubious theories and asking me to do home work :D

Check this video, the genetical evidence is debunked and a paper (best paper produced in this year reviewed by europeans - this bracket is for european white worshipers)is produced after the genertic study of Indus - saraswati civilization.

They compared the genetics with Iranians, Central Asians, Caucases etc... they found matches with current Indians.

When they compared the similar sites dating back 4000 years in Iran and Turkmenistan(site name Gonur Tepe), the samples found that 20% people came from outside and those DNAs are matching with Rakigarhi DNA in India. Which supports "Out of India theory". They also found R1 gene which migrated to Europe.

After debunking with Vedic literature where all the places mentioned are in India, geology study which support the ancient Indian scriptures, satellite data which proves there existed a mighty river saraswati in India. These days the AIT proponents are after debunking their arguments are holding to the genetics now that this is also debunked with recent genetic studies. We can remove this from out test books and put this episode as a lesson to our future generations about how a civilization can be taken for a ride with dubious facts.

Last but not the least the Jaipur lit fest people announced 1 Crore for any one if they prove this theory of Aryan invasion from outside.


Do your own homework, please; these have been widely reported in the popular press, and there are two separate academic papers relating to the studies in question. Of course the genetic make-up is similar to 'Indian' people; to present-day Indian people, who, in the ASI profile, are formed of migrants from this culture. So what is the discrepancy? Just to fill out the picture, elements from that Civilisation are also found in ANI profiles, and it is obvious that the survivors have moved out of their cities and merged with the surrounding population.

It is a bit late in the day to bat one's eyelids and profess innocence.



Would you care to reconcile your first sentence above with your own second sentence above? Did they or didn't they?

At the risk of hurting your feelings, I must point out that you are beginning to sound like Donald Trump.



LOL.

Where is the birthplace of Tamil? Or Telugu? Or Kannada?
This is not the Ram Mandir, to be set up at one spot known instinctively to the true believer through the cosmic insight that his faith gives him.



Actually, no. This found expression far earlier in the linguistic research conducted in different regions of the world, with notable concentration on the Celtic languages, on German languages, and on Greek languages.

The British contribution, as far as India goes, was to spot the similarity between Sanskrit and those languages, forming the idea of a world-wide 'family' of languages that the linguists call Indo-European.

As far as 'Indo-Aryan' is concerned, it is used to distinguish the language of the Vedas, before its systematic regularisation by Panini, a regularisation that came to be known as 'Sanskrit', or the polished tongue (in contrast to the Prakrit languages, the natural tongues).

It seems to be a particularly bad day for you.



Self-pity is not a good foundation for beginning a scientific enquiry.



Considering that the similarities occur thousands of miles apart, and considering that the champions of the OOI hypothesis have no information about the parallel developments around the world, and have concentrated only on forming a ghetto for themselves and isolating themselves from the laughter of the world, there is not much substance in your supposition.



Did you mean 'Parsis'? Persians do not wear saris, and do not follow Indian traditions. Parsis do; they have been domiciled in Gujarat for some four centuries now.

You must explain to us on some future occasion how wearing saris has a bearing on genetics.



Your point being?



The point is still not clear. It is precisely these Brahmins who are known to have been identifiable at an early date who have the strongest element of migrant DNA.



Wrong.



Meaning only that their original rituals, including the Soma ritual, have died out.



It is not. Devnagari, or Nagari, is derived from Brahmi, and that, in turn, has easily traced antecedents (look them up for yourself).



Naturally. That fits in with a late date for these, following their migration. If they had been composed before, they would have mentioned other places and other rivers. And how do you connect migration, culture and language? The point that was made was that language accompanied migration, and culture had nothing to do with it after the first few centuries.



How come indeed? Nobody said the Rig Veda is alien to India; all that people have tried to explain to the uncomprehending is that the Rig Vedic language came with migrants. You do get the difference?



How terribly sad!
 
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25 % Hindus who own toilets dont use it. 10% Muslims who own toilets dont use it. Looks like you first need to teach all in your religion to use toilets first before commenting on Hindus. First achieve hundred per cent then we can talk.
Why the butt hurt mate? You in your original comment claimed that

There are probably as many Islamic open defecators in India as Hindus if not more considering their economic condition due to lack of education.

You should have checked the facts before making wild claims. Now you are just changing the goalpost...
 
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Why the butt hurt mate? You in your original comment claimed that



You should have checked the facts before making wild claims. Now you are just changing the goalpost...

I said "probably" in the original comment because I wasn't sure. You provided links and I accept those but those very links disprove Mandal's claim that Muslims taught Hindus to use toilets. No changing goal posts, just disproving what the illegal Bangladeshi said. That's all.
 
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I said "probably" in the original comment because I wasn't sure. You provided links and I accept those but those very links disprove Mandal's claim that Muslims taught Hindus to use toilets. No changing goal posts, just disproving what the illegal Bangladeshi said. That's all.
You weren't sure yet you made a statement which is the polar opposite of your claim. Anyways there is a saying in english which states "Look before you leap" and it perfectly applies to you.

You've been long enough on this forum and should have known the kind of trolling that takes place here, yet you take statements like these("Muslims taught Hindus to use toilets") seriously:what:
 
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You weren't sure yet you made a statement which is the polar opposite of your claim. Anyways there is a saying in english which states "Look before you leap" and it perfectly applies to you.

You've been long enough on this forum and should have known the kind of trolling that takes place here, yet you take statements like these("Muslims taught Hindus to use toilets") seriously:what:

I wasn't sure that is why I used the word "probably". The use of the word probably makes my statement a guess, not a claim.

Agreed that i should not have responded to him.
 
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25 % Hindus who own toilets dont use it. 10% Muslims who own toilets dont use it. Looks like you first need to teach all in your religion to use toilets first before commenting on Hindus. First achieve hundred per cent then we can talk.



Turkic Muslims ruled India for six centuries, if still so many Hindus and Muslims are not using toilets, obviously they didn't do a good job teaching anything to anyone.

Turks are clean I live next to Indians and they barely clean their houses.

Turks take their cleanliness seriously.

Dont blame the Turks or Muslims you hindus failed to take in any of the cleanliness culture of the Muslims who ruled you.
 
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Turks are clean I live next to Indians and they barely clean their houses.

Turks take their cleanliness seriously.

Dont blame the Turks or Muslims you hindus failed to take in any of the cleanliness culture of the Muslims who ruled you.

The Turks who ruled India are Central Asian Turks not the fake Turks from Turkey.

Rest of your BS is not worth responding to.

P.S- At least put one flag proudly of your country.
 
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The Turks who ruled India are Central Asian Turks not the fake Turks from Turkey.

Rest of your BS is not worth responding to.

P.S- At least put one flag proudly of your country.

Fake Turks funny how a Indian gets to decide who is fake. About the flag I got it wrong. Im from Australia but my parents are Turkish.

If hindus are so dirty its basically their mentality but they will blame Muslims for it.

Somalia is one of the poorest countries in the world they dont go around defecating everywhere like Indians do.
 
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