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DG ISPR: India kills 4 Pakistani civilians on LOC

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Their egging Pakistan to react, CAN'T you people see that. Wait till they make the jump first, and it will come soon, they are compelled.
 
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Pakistan India border is far too long and Pakistan is too short on war supplies. It's not possible to be at perpetual war with your much stronger neighbor
Again a text book comment from my side, invading forces need to have 3 to 1 ratio to successfully beat an enemy! Thus, IB needs to protected with good "defenses and strategy" rather matching equality/parity in firepower and men. Consequently, focusing on IOJK with putting weight on gorilla and/or conventional offensive.
 
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We Pakistanis can only enjoy Chinese victory but what is our army doing to avenge the death of our people. How easily India killed our four civilians :'(
Shouldn't we learn something from China?
 
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Something, I do not understand. We do have counter-battery, finding radars and guided shells.

How is it that we never target enemy arty fire bases?
 
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Something, I do not understand. We do have counter-battery, finding radars and guided shells.

How is it that we never target enemy arty fire bases?

It's not about weapons, its about if you have the will to fire the weapons
 
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So, essentially we let India pound us, including built up civilian areas, cos we don’t want our arty bases targeted in reprisal?
 
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So, essentially we let India pound us, including built up civilian areas, cos we don’t want our arty bases targeted in reprisal?

That and that fact that we have not yet established a large enough deterrence to attack them without getting hit back.

Basically how Iran can hit US airbases, shoot US drone, and strike Saudi oil plant without getting hit back since Iran has very strong missile deterrence against enemies. Iran is always one step ahead of its enemies, Iran is already a cyber power and now they're developing hypersonic weapons, even US is afraid to mess with Iran. Pakistan needs to aim for level of deterrence against India that Iran has against its bigger enemies.

Just because Pakistan is smaller than India does not mean we have to be weaker. Small and powerful nations can and have defeated bigger enemies.
 
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That and that fact that we have not yet established a large enough deterrence to attack them without getting hit back.

Basically how Iran can hit US airbases, shoot US drone, and strike Saudi oil plant without getting hit back since Iran has very strong missile deterrence against enemies. Iran is always one step ahead of its enemies, Iran is already a cyber power and now they're developing hypersonic weapons, even US is afraid to mess with Iran. Pakistan needs to aim for level of deterrence against India that Iran has against its bigger enemies.

Just because Pakistan is smaller than India does not mean we have to be weaker. Small and powerful nations can and have defeated bigger enemies.
Kindly stop bringing Iran or Saudi examples. Whatever Iran is doing is absolute wrong. They are killing Muslims in Muslim countries. Same goes for Saudis.

The best example is "ertugrul ghazi" of our brother Turkeye. A tiny tribe of just 2k with enemies all around and traitors within, still went ahead to create a mighty Ottoman Empire and ruled 3 continents.
 
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Kindly stop bringing Iran or Saudi examples. Whatever Iran is doing is absolute wrong. They are killing Muslims in Muslim countries. Same goes for Saudis.

The best example is "ertugrul ghazi" of our brother Turkeye. A tiny tribe of just 2k with enemies all around and traitors within, still went ahead to create a mighty Ottoman Empire and ruled 3 continents.

I disagree, if Pakistan had even half the deterrence of Iran, India would be too spooked to even fire across LOC.

If Pakistan had cyber, drone, missile, hypersonics, and space like Iran, do you think India would even dare to f*** with us?

PLA showed us you don't even need firearms to kill Indians
 
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