Destroy ISI - Indian NSA Advisor

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Haha, so very sad. You really dont know do you? Thats exactly what the Indian goverment was saying when the irregulars were discovered. They obviously refined it a bit later on(given how stupid it was). Perhaps you will care to dig up some old news items before accusing me of having my history wrong? Or maybe someone here can confirm it...
And everyone knows that Kashmiri Mujahideen are worlds apart form the Afghan Taliban, and Pakistan always said Mujahideen from the valley were taking part. Why would we try to say they came all the way from Afghanistan?

I do know what the India was saying since I was there in Kargil!

There is enough links even on this forum so I don't think I should waste time on the obvious!

Since you seem to know all, how about posting something to state that Indians said so?

In so far as Kashmir is concerned, out of work Taliban were pushed to Kashmir too!

 

[Kasrkin]

Okay so now the Afghan Taliban and the Kashmiri rebels are the same, but Pakistani and Afghan Taliban are competely different? (Arguements our Indian friends were making a page back)
Fine dont waste your high and mighty time, if some one here can not confirm this WELL KNOWN fact with a link then i will find you one tomorow.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Okay so now the Afghan Taliban and the Kashmiri rebels are the same, but Pakistani and Afghan Taliban are competely different? (Arguements our Indian friends were making a page back)
Fine dont waste your high and mighty time, if some one here can not confirm this WELL KNOWN fact with a link then i will find you one tomorow.

The issue is that you claim that the Indian govt had said that there were the Taliban in Kargil!

Do provide a link.

I have said in the rest of Kashmir out of work Taliban were also sent. Kashmir and not Kargil!!

 

[Kasrkin]

yes yes i get the point, but please dont expect me to waste my sunday night finding you a link. I said a fact, if you dont believe me or are not aware. Fine i can provide you a link, but thats out of MY good grace. As it is I think many people here will know(though it easy to see why Indian articles would cut out embarrasing claims)

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Give Pakistani and international links if you disbelieve Indian ones.

You made a ridiculous claim on a Sunday night and wasted my time and yet you suddenly get coy in backing up what you say because it is Sunday.

Have a great Sunday night!

I am already in Monday!

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

It was the ISI. Take my word for it.

An attack of such precision and sophistication is not the forte of Taliban.

Agreed. As I said earlier, the Taliban only scenario seems to have a few problems. First India would not be their biggest enemy and second as you said the precision and targetting of the attack points in a certain drection.

Agree, the way the attacks are getting carried out. it is not the work of taliban alone.

Take your word for it?

Don't be ridiculous - are you the CIA chief?

"Precision and sophistication"?

Whats so precise and sophisticated about driving a car full of explosives into a building? AQ and other groups in Iraq have been doing it for years now. Hezbollah did it almost two decades ago against the US Marine Barracks.

The Taliban have been doing it in Pakistan and Afghanistan for a while now. Don't forget the attack on the SSG headquarters, ISI targets, FIA headquarters and the Surgeon General of the PA.

By the Indian security establishment's own admission the Embassy was not the best from a security POV.

Utter nonsense is what you guys have reduced this discussion to now.

 

[Flintlock]

^^^You need more than just a brainwashed nincompoop and a truck full of explosives to blow up the car in which 2 of the most important Indians in Afghanistan are sitting.

 

[EagleEyes]

I dont understand what this fuss is all about? India has always wanted to destroy ISI. LMAO, any victim of it will want to destroy it.

 

[Flintlock]

I dont understand what this fuss is all about? India has always wanted to destroy ISI. LMAO, any victim of it will want to destroy it.

Ijjactly. What IS all the fuss about?

 

[EagleEyes]

Ijjactly. What IS all the fuss about?

The question is. Does India has the capability to do so.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

^^^You need more than just a brainwashed nincompoop and a truck full of explosives to blow up the car in which 2 of the most important Indians in Afghanistan are sitting.

What on earth are you on about? A brainwashed nicompoop killed a general of the PA, attacked ISI employees and manged to attack the mess hall of the SSG, as well as FIA headquarters.

What planet do you live on where driving a vehicle full of explosives into a building, in the news almost every day now, is something extraordinary?

Please do explain why this particular instance is so special, in terms of its lack of vulnerability to be attacked, other than with the assistance of the bogeyman created by India.

 

[Flintlock]

What on earth are you on about? A brainwashed nicompoop killed a general of the PA, attacked ISI employees and manged to attack the mess hall of the SSG, as well as FIA headquarters.

What planet do you live on where driving a vehicle full of explosives into a building, in the news almost every day now, is something extraordinary?

Please do explain why this particular instance is so special, in terms of its lack of vulnerability to be attacked, other than with the assistance of the bogeyman created by India.

Read the details of the attack. Go ahead. I'm too lazy to google.

The timing of the attack, the type of explosive used, gaining access to the diplomatic zone.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Read the details of the attack. Go ahead. I'm too lazy to google.

The timing of the attack, the type of explosive used, gaining access to the diplomatic zone.

Whenever you have time, go ahead and post them - remember that AQ has managed to target the Green Zone in Baghdad, and the Taliban managed to target the ISI in an extremely well defended area of Rawalpindi, several times, even when the GoP knew that they would be trying such attacks.

This is your argument to prove.

 

[Flintlock]

Whenever you have time, go ahead and post them - remember that AQ has managed to target the Green Zone in Baghdad, and the Taliban managed to target the ISI in an extremely well defended area of Rawalpindi, several times, even when the GoP knew that they would be trying such attacks.

This is your argument to prove.

Nope, its yours to disprove, because all the evidence points to a well planned and executed attack.

Plus, as I said, the Taliban denies it.

So we all know who is left.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Nope, its yours to disprove, because all the evidence points to a well planned and executed attack.

Plus, as I said, the Taliban denies it.

So we all know who is left.

I have shown that the Taliban and AQ have carried out equally devastating, well planned and executed attacks, in even better defended circumstances and areas. That is basically your speculative argument, that the attack was in a "well defended area, so it had to be the ISI", since that has been shown to not be a hindrance in other attacks by the Taliban, your argument is invalid. Try again.

Alternatively, the Taliban also denied the Islamabad bombing, which was also in the middle of the Capital, in a heavily defended area, when the GoP was expecting an attack - all that evidence, using your logic, points to a well planned, executed and sophisticated attack, and since the Taliban have denied it, it could only have been India.