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Deposed Saudi crown prince reportedly put under house arrest

I mean you just have to look at the succession system (where sons would kill each other) to see that things were going haywire. Not to mention rampant grave worship / Sufism, drinking alcohol etc by the armies at the end of the empire

I like Turkey and Ergodan - but let's be real. The Ottoman Empire wasn't exactly saintly

They have quite some WTF moments

If the Ottoman empire did not have its grave faults they would not have collapsed. I hope Turks have learned the lesson. It's time to move forward.
 
Man, live the reality of your "today", and for your own sake, don't waste your time and energy seeking aspiration from the dark past that won't luckily be repeated. Your today is much more richer, rational, logical, and interesting than what historians try to make of the past. There was no Caliphate under the Ottoman, Abbasids, or Ummayads rule.

It was just a "word" that they used to add some religious holiness to protect themselves from criticism. They fooled millions of their own people some centuries ago who had their excuse for not knowing the truth. But you now have access to information with only few clicks so there shouldn't be an excuse for you not to know.
People who forget their past,they have no future as well.khilafat came to ottomans in the sultan salim's era.and they construct the Masjid e Nabvi s.a.w the old one which is still at Rouza e Rasool.ottomans serve the ummah and muslims interest all over world over the centuries. And in world war 1 Ottomans were winnig in battles despite they were weak but they start losing when arabs start attacks on hijaz railway through the British supplied dynamite.and military supply broken in arabistan.and when you have fire inside house you can't fight even the Germans are your allies.Rest of the story every one know,how the decoit abdulaziz become the king he killed every patriot muslim who loved ottoman rule,check the history facts how these people demolished the rouza of Hazrat Usman.and other hundreds of Sahaba's graves were abused by these Zionist Saud family.even they tried to demolish Rouza e Rasool s.a.w but stopped because reaction of muslims world wide
 

That tells a lot. I won't be surprised if he is executed or thrown off a plane that is if Mr. Everything doesn't start his journey to hell before that. I hear that the ousted crown prince is the son of late King Faisal.
No no.ousted crown prince was the son of prince Naif bin abdul aziz,who was also crown prince of king abdullah but died in king abdullah's lifebso prince salman was chosen to be crown prince and prince mukarram was his announced to successor of prince salman by king abdullah.but came into power salman ousted mukarram from up coming crown prince seat.and put the prince mukarram in house arrest because he opposed the start of yeman war in royal meeting.then muhammad bin naif came in the list for successor but again internal issues and he was also deposed and here come the MBS.
 
Mark my words: Mohammed bin Salman will be the last King of Arabia and we all will witness this.
I have doubt bro,MBS will not be last king his father will be the last king,because "war between the princes will start when king will die, for the new king between the sons of late kings" that's a hadith.
 
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To all that turks in here forget a caliphate under a turk !
 
It is amazing, how people who don't know jack shit about the topic are posting
expert opinion here.

They all seem, step closer to the royals of KSA than rest of the world.
If you ask questions, than they will start abusing you.

Why Naif has been thrown out of the crown race??

You may also like to know, why Qatar is being asked to cut off support of his unorthodox friends!
 

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