Delhi is polluted as hell

[jamahir]

@jamahir

The system is very nice and it was nice to hear that the factory has Indian customers too. One thing though, the grain farmers around Delhi produce not rice but wheat and maize, so will the Thai method work ? Does wheat and maize stubble boiled, dried and other-ways-processed material have the property to be converted to disposable plates and cups ?

solutions

Maybe this is possible with wheat and maize stubble too.

People with Asthma get very sick in Lahore during the month of October and November and doctors continue to warn people to either move away or take more precautions. You are right that we are just starting to understand the effect of pollution on human lives.

While principally i agree with that on private ownership of cars, the fact remains that industries contribute more towards the pollution than the common population. We have NEQS (National Effluent Quality standards) in place but industries seldom comply to these standards and get a waiver by paying money to auditors.

Agreed many industries do not comply to pollution control standards and the government auditors may be in cahoots with the industry owners but the industries exist to produce goods for the common population. If the common population, especially the middle class, does not care that their non-harmonious lifestyle contributes massively to global pollution of all sorts then the industry captains also won't care. It is easy berating Leonardo DiCaprio for traveling to a climate conference by jet plane but the real culprit is the Indian middle class worker in an outsourcing-based ITES company in Bangalore whose "work" involves doing offloaded work for a Wall Street company or a similar company in London whose work in turn being the lender to Tesla car company or some similar Chinese company or the Hyundai whose plans are to sell 50,000 personal transport cars to the middle class in China or UAE or America or India in the next six months. The cars being most times purchased on loan of course. And for the loan to be repaid the middle class continues their dis-harmonious, polluting lifestyle. So a middle class worker in Bangalore is contributing to pollution everywhere including in his own country, in his own city. It all is inter-linked. The rich DiCaprio does not pollute the world as much as the middle class people.

 

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Please stop blaming farmers in the same tongue you absolve the idiots who fired off the firecrackers. One Delhi minister, Gopal Rai, indicated that the BJP got people to disregard the Delhi government's ban on firecracker usage. You should have watched NDTV India interviewing some cycling enthusiasts and some school students in the morning just two days ago complaining about the smog causing health problems to them. The cyclists said that people shouldn't be doing firecrackers.

And about those women doing pooja in the OP pictures, what kind of fools are they that the pooja was more important to them than their health ? Did they not see the very visible foam in the water ? Not smell it ?

But about the farm stubble burning issue, well, the solution to that is simple. Vertical Farms and general Urban Farms. Will solve that issue and all farmer related issues. Non propagating of the two methods by the government would be it making unnecessary excuses.

These stuble burning farmers are almost solely responsible for the winter smog in Delhi and north India generally.

What the hell are you talking about wrt firecrackers ? It's not even a small fraction what people used to do earlier. Every school teaches kids not to burn crackers, grown ups don't have much interest in it anyway and people are teaching their children to also not do it.

Eat, drink, feast, gamble (3 patti etc) and the special evening muhurat trading session on the market (haha, burn, you commie) , buy a new car/clothes.. that's what people do on diwali, patakas are increasingly a thing of the past.. and I like that, poor stray animals always suffered the most. No such worries for our cats and dogs these days.

Seriously, the days of all night firecracker madness are long past, at least in Delhi.. have you ever even been to Delhi @jamahir ?

kind of sorry to say, but it wouldnt surprise me one bit if you haven't... which is to say you're talking out of your asss as per usual.

and yeah, that was disgusting... prayers in filth chemicals and all sorts of disgusting waters.

obviously some fvcking useless gareebs who have no idea about anything.. that's the demographic you commies want voting for you, isn't it ?

Unless you can provide a feasible and economical solution to dispose subtle, farmers can't do anything. In MP, they threw away the cauliflower as it was expensive to transport from farm to the market, and the sale price was 2 Rs/kg.

Farmer In UP Dumps 1000 Kilos Of Cauliflower On Road After Traders Offer Just One Rupee Per KG

This is just sad

www.indiatimes.com

yeah it's a tough one, they really ought to get a bio dump something going..

sardiyon mein Dilli is hell... your eyes hurt when out and about, rank putrid air.. hell.

 

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ganges pollution is due to farmer?

yes

ganges pollution, killing people by not allowing ambulances etc through

terrorist farmers, anyway.. soon Modi and his buddies will take over ALL their business and properties and fix the problem

 

[jamahir]

Every school teaches kids not to burn crackers, grown ups don't have much interest in it anyway and people are teaching their children to also not do it.

So who were those people that the Delhi minister said were burning crackers ? I read that there are about 190 calls to the fire department about minor fires started through cracker burning.

Eat, drink, feast, gamble (3 patti etc) and the special evening muhurat trading session on the market (haha, burn, you commie) , buy a new car/clothes.. that's what people do on diwali, patakas are increasingly a thing of the past.. and I like that, poor stray animals always suffered the most. No such worries for our cats and dogs these days.

Man, you always present India to be such a harmonious place. And you of course will propagate for stock market and cars.

But I agree that at least in my neighborhood the firecrackers for seven to ten days were now reduced to three days. I don't think I have heard crackers that much since Monday.

Seriously, the days of all night firecracker madness are long past, at least in Delhi.. have you ever even been to Delhi @jamahir ?

I haven't but I exist in the same world as you.

and yeah, that was disgusting... prayers in filth chemicals and all sorts of disgusting waters.

obviously some fvcking useless gareebs who have no idea about anything.. that's the demographic you commies want voting for you, isn't it ?

1. I desire for the anti-democracy system of political parties, complicated political structure, election and voting to be gone.

2. There have been TV visuals of middle class people doing Chatt pooja but not in this foamy place and maybe not on the day the photo was taken. Also, Delhi government is using motorboats to break up the foam so that more people come for the pooja and this bunch will include the middle class.

3. "Useless gareebs" : Tell me, how is a middle class and oppressed computer engineer in Infosys better than the ghareeb ? As just one example, most of the 300 million four-wheelers in India and most of the perhaps 500 million two-wheelers are owned by the middle class and this bunch contributes to direct and secondary pollution, crime, accidents, disharmony and chaos in their country or in the world. Did that ghareeb fellow in Rajasthan who didn't have money to eat so he was eating off a roadkill dog on the highway, is he responsible for all those aforesaid wrong things or is it the "non-ghareeb" middle class ( not that the middle class is not ghareeb too ) ?

yes

ganges pollution, killing people by not allowing ambulances etc through

terrorist farmers, anyway.. soon Modi and his buddies will take over ALL their business and properties and fix the problem

So those 400+ protesting farmers in Delhi who died of various causes since the protests began about a year ago, they are terrorists ? Those peacefully protesting farmers in Lakhimpur who were crushed under the convoy of the minister's son, they are terrorists ? I could speak about a different bunch who are actually.

 

[Azadkashmir]

its the muslims burning too much woood to cook beef kebabs.

 

[graphican]

I have a colleague who visited India in 2020. He said you cannot drink water straight out of a hand pump (or water turbine) as it smells and tastes bad. Drinking "freshwater out of the ground" is not a mere option for them. He is from UP.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Imagine the destruction and filth they're pumping into the world oceans.

 

[crankthatskunk]

Open defecting on beaches, the most disgusting thing is they use hand to wipe their *** then eat food from hand.

They refuse to use spoon and say have to use hand to eat, that’s real india food

I can not bear myself to think about it

You can easily bear it eating from your hands after visiting the beach. You just have to become Indian.

 

[Maula Jatt]

yep, gets pretty disgusting up there every year.. still no solution to stubble burning, the crackers are just a 1 or 2 night thing, and people do it less and less every year.. but these farmer assholes ruin it for everyone

Nope wrong- Unregulated industries are the major reason for smog problem not farmers (although they are partly at fault), add in this is a flat land, full of agricultural fields, with no sea
Terrible place to start industrialization process imo

Professor explains the situation- I'd trust his judgment

blaming it on farmers is wrong as they have been doing this for decades- this sharp increase is due to rapid industrialization during these last 20-30 years - GT rd/CP corridor for Pakistan and y'all might be doing industrialization somewhere too
@blueazure

 

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Nope wrong- Unregulated industries are the major reason for smog problem not farmers (although they are partly at fault), add in this is a flat land, full of agricultural fields, with no sea
Terrible place to start industrialization process imo

Professor explains the situation- I'd trust his judgment

blaming it on farmers is wrong as they have been doing this for decades- this sharp increase is due to rapid industrialization during these last 20-30 years - GT rd/CP corridor for Pakistan and y'all might be doing industrialization somewhere too
@blueazure

There's a variety of factors at play, the number of vehicles on the roads has also exploded these past couple decades but the stubble burning plays the biggest role it in. These farm fire things are even viewable on sat pics, the whole north north western plains of the subcontinent gets covered in it, so that, along with unfavourable wind conditions abd the cold weather where particles hang low in the air, total disaster.

Doctors blame Delhi's air pollution after 30-year-old non-smoker hospitalised with low O2 levels

Doctors blame the rise in Delhi's air pollution levels for a 30-year-old non-smoker being diagnosed with a form of asthma.

www.indiatoday.in

do Pak farmers also burn stubble in the fertile plains of Punjab ?

Pak's Lahore declared most polluted city globally after breaching AQI 700 mark

The AQI remained above 500 for the fourth consecutive day in various parts of the city which worsened to 700 after 12 pm on Thursday, reported Samaa TV.

www.hindustantimes.com

I was planning to go to Del for Diwali etc, I'm originally from there but said feck it. Your eyes start stinging and watering soon as you're out the airport, pretty nasty.

 

[Maula Jatt]

There's a variety of factors at play, the number of vehicles on the roads has also exploded these past couple decades but the stubble burning plays the biggest role it in. These farm fire things are even viewable on sat pics, the whole north north western plains of the subcontinent gets covered in it, so that, along with unfavourable wind conditions abd the cold weather where particles hang low in the air, total disaster.

Doctors blame Delhi's air pollution after 30-year-old non-smoker hospitalised with low O2 levels

Doctors blame the rise in Delhi's air pollution levels for a 30-year-old non-smoker being diagnosed with a form of asthma.

www.indiatoday.in

do Pak farmers also burn stubble in the fertile plains of Punjab ?

Pak's Lahore declared most polluted city globally after breaching AQI 700 mark

The AQI remained above 500 for the fourth consecutive day in various parts of the city which worsened to 700 after 12 pm on Thursday, reported Samaa TV.

www.hindustantimes.com

I was planning to go to Del for Diwali etc, I'm originally from there but said feck it. Your eyes start stinging and watering soon as you're out the airport, pretty nasty.

You should listen to him, this is what he is debunking
He said we have been doing stubble burning for decades- its not good and it contributes but unregulated industrialization, factories are resulting in steep rise of pollution during these last 20-30 years

Industry shouldn't be located here imo, take it near sea or dry,hot areas- Punjab or UP in India's case shouldn't be industrialized or if you are make sure it is incredibly environmentally friendly
take it to service and agricultural economy but don't do shoddy industrialization

make other parts of country do industrial work

 

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You should listen to him, this is what he is debunking
He said we have been doing stubble burning for decades- its not good and it contributes but unregulated industrialization, factories are resulting in steep rise of pollution during these last 20-30 years

Industry shouldn't be located here imo, take it near sea or dry,hot areas- Punjab or UP in India's case shouldn't be industrialized or if you are make sure it is incredibly environmentally friendly
take it to service and agricultural economy but don't do shoddy industrialization

make other parts of country do industrial work

Well, even if things such as the topography/geography, not being coastal locations make it harder for pollutants and bad air to dissipate, it is wholly unrealistic to not further industrialize such a heavily populated area.

I'll watch that vid later, no idea what all he said there but stuble burning is the single most major cause of what's happening now. Have a look at this sat pic:

Stubble Burning in Punjab, India

As they do every fall, farmers in northern India burned crop residue following the harvest.

earthobservatory.nasa.gov

literally hells on earth

 

[Maula Jatt]

Well, even if things such as the topography/geography, not being coastal locations make it harder for pollutants and bad air to dissipate, it is wholly unrealistic to not further industrialize such a heavily populated area.

I'll watch that vid later, no idea what all he said there but stuble burning is the single most major cause of what's happening now. Have a look at this sat pic:

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Stubble Burning in Punjab, India

As they do every fall, farmers in northern India burned crop residue following the harvest.

earthobservatory.nasa.gov

literally hells on earth

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Give this to them, itll really help

In Pakistan, a 'Happy' solution to curb crop burning takes off

A new effort by the Punjab government to tackle air pollution caused by rice stubble burning is taking off as machines – called Happy Seeders – are given to farmers at a subsidized cost. The technology could reduce greenhouse gas emissions by as much as 78%.

www.csmonitor.com

but even they are backing the claims of Proffesor

"Farmers say the new farm equipment can help combat smog, but note that crop burning produces only a small share of the province’s pollution.

“The stubble is burned only for a few weeks in the winter. It is a fact that the problem becomes worse during this short period,” Mr. Bhandara said.

“But farmers are not the only reason for this pollution,” he added.

A 2018 report by the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) on the underlying causes of smog in Punjab noted that agriculture – mainly rice residue burning – accounts for 20% of total air pollutant emissions.

That puts it behind industry, which produces a quarter of the air pollution in the province, and transport, which contributes more than 40%."

Transport and Subtle burning needs to be curbed- Industry is also an issue but I guess its a nessacary evil

 

[PakSword]

That's beyond imagination. How can people survive this kind of pollution?

 

[Maula Jatt]

That's beyond imagination. How can people survive this kind of pollution?

My people live in Lahore, you can't
It'll catch up with you