Delhi Gang-Rape Aftermath

[fallstuff]

This case was diff., it was extremely brutal and the poor girl has died. No other case has attracted so many protests.

Enemies of India will use this opportunity to malign India even more. What has happened is bad already and we should prevent the situation from worsening.

You are in a class by yourself.

 

[Markus]

You are in a class by yourself.

Thank you for certifying me.

Please send me a soft copy of "you certifying me" so that I can include it as an achievement in my resume.

 

[Azazel]

Yes, we have many problems and corruptions, but the women are valued and respected here, and we are 10x far better than India in that case. We maintain the modesty of women here, which lacks in India, therefore, such incidents are very frequent in India/

Tall claims but little truth.Here is the truth.

The first step of the Bangladeshi government must take in respecting the rights of women is to recognise the full presence of violations to their rights. They must then take appropriate measures to “prevent all forms of violence against women, prosecute and punish perpetrators, ensure access to justice and services for victims” (Brautigam, Christine in Johnson et al., 2008, p. v.). However, as criticised by many women`s groups and NGO`s, the state of Bangladesh harbours a very narrow definition of violence against women, which brings fatal implications for its policies. Only gross violence such as rape and murder are paid attention to. Violence at the domestic level, within the limits of the family, is ignored, and thus the root cause of violence against women is overlooked, ultimately leading to limited intervention. Not all forms of violence against women are recognised as such, which results in the failure to prosecute perpetrators and a lack of access for women to “immediate means of redress, rehabilitation and protection” (CEDAW/C/BGD/Q/7).

The government of Bangladesh is failing to respect the rights of women as it does not consider all forms of violence against women, including sexual harassment at the workplace or religious induced violence sanctioning immoral behaviour and fatwas (an arbitrary religious decree) which remain outside the circumference of the law (States News Service, January 25, 2011). The failure to prosecute perpetrators domestic violence[6] is a failure to implement women`s civil and political Human Rights, and is also an indicator of the prevalent gender bias present in legal and judicial systems (Reilly, 2009, p. 78). The CEDAW committee further notes that there is a continuing high prevalence of trafficking for the sexual exploitation of women and girls in Bangladesh. Only a small number of traffickers have been arrested and convicted (CEDAW/C/BGD/Q/7/21). Prostitution is another issue to which the government has provided insufficient attention; it is neither banned nor recognised in Bangladeshi law, yet there is a high occurrence of it throughout the country (CEDAW/C/BGD/Q/7). Little has been done to uphold and protect the rights of commercial sex workers, according to the comments of the CEDAW committee on the combined sixth and seventh periodic report of Bangladesh (States News Service, January 25, 2011).

Violence against women in Bangladesh

Of course if your constitution don't even recognize various forms crimes against women their won't be many crimes to report either.And you can easily claim we are 10 times better than India.What a bunch of losers.

 

[Enemy]

Only one case of conviction out of all the rapes last year.

The rape numbers keep going up every year.

And you my friend worried about damage control.

You can't be this thick, I hope not.

You know the rapists and their supporters who happen to be Indians have challenged the progressive Indians. The rapists and their supporters should not think that since they have Indian voters ID cards, Ration Cards, Pan Cards, Passports etc, and can sing the national anthem will get away with any crime. I don't care if any chutiya sings Vandemataram and holds a tricolor but at the same time rapes a woman, if I get him, I will kill him because he is my society's enemy.

We need to redefine the word 'enemy'. An enemy does not necessarily mean someone who lives outside the border of the country, an enemy can live within us and can be more dangerous to us than those neighboring foreigners who we consider as enemies. I recall a Hindi film Prahaar where the protagonist a commando officer says why he killed several thugs and how the thugs who happen to be Indians pose a more serious threat to the society than any non Indian. The rapists of this country has hijacked the country and its people but its time to eliminate them once and for all.

 

[Skies]

^ you compared the rape in BD vs rape in India, not the intensity and number of rape incidents per capita per year!

 

[KRAIT]

Only one case of conviction out of all the rapes last year.
The rape numbers keep going up every year.
And you my friend worried about damage control.
You can't be this thick, I hope not.

From the other thread, the reason why this case made headlines.

It was already simmering. There were many rape cases in Delhi and Gurgaon. A girl was raped in a mall. But I have explained earlier why this case has so much impact. Its shock value is too high. What general people thinks after knowing the conditions of this case

1. Girl was not alone, with her bf. - Now even if the girl is with a man, she is not safe.
2. Crime happened in a public transport bus - Women are not safe in bus, different from other cases where the girl was abducted in a private vehicle like car.
3. New Delhi is supposed to be most secure place in India - What chance does a woman have in rural and small town areas.
4. The brutality involved - It shocked the nation what they did AFTER they raped her.

If you want to understand fear and anger, look at case of serial killers especially in US. Look at case of BTK killer.

Stalin said - A death is a tragedy, a million death is just a statistics.



Also, there are many convictions done but the point is that the punishment is not adequate and the justice system is too slow. Burden of other cases on courts, lack of investigation agencies, too many rapes to handle, police inefficiency etc. etc.

If you look at US, with comparatively less population than India and more advanced labs, more technological advanced police and more density or police, programs like VICAP, registration of sex offenders, presences of Social services for abused children, etc. etc. it is hard for US to control many crimes. Even serial killers can't be caught easily with all these advance labs, centralized systems, etc. You guys have Behavioural Science division in FBI. They train other law agencies. You won't find here.

Also the cases in India are mainly attributed from rural areas and small towns which has even less protection.

But you should also look at the fact that the growing awareness among youth. There are many people who are working for ensuring safety of women.

If you need more info, let me know. There are many factors to take into consideration.

Only one case of conviction out of all the rapes last year.
The rape numbers keep going up every year.
And you my friend worried about damage control.
You can't be this thick, I hope not.

From the other thread, the reason why this case made headlines.

It was already simmering. There were many rape cases in Delhi and Gurgaon. A girl was raped in a mall. But I have explained earlier why this case has so much impact. Its shock value is too high. What general people thinks after knowing the conditions of this case

1. Girl was not alone, with her bf. - Now even if the girl is with a man, she is not safe.
2. Crime happened in a public transport bus - Women are not safe in bus, different from other cases where the girl was abducted in a private vehicle like car.
3. New Delhi is supposed to be most secure place in India - What chance does a woman have in rural and small town areas.
4. The brutality involved - It shocked the nation what they did AFTER they raped her.

If you want to understand fear and anger, look at case of serial killers especially in US. Look at case of BTK killer.

Stalin said - A death is a tragedy, a million death is just a statistics.



Also, there are many convictions done but the point is that the punishment is not adequate and the justice system is too slow. Burden of other cases on courts, lack of investigation agencies, too many rapes to handle, police inefficiency etc. etc.

If you look at US, with comparatively less population than India and more advanced labs, more technological advanced police and more density or police, programs like VICAP, registration of sex offenders, presences of Social services for abused children, etc. etc. it is hard for US to control many crimes. Even serial killers can't be caught easily with all these advance labs, centralized systems, etc. You guys have Behavioural Science division in FBI. They train other law agencies. You won't find here.

Also the cases in India are mainly attributed from rural areas and small towns which has even less protection.

But you should also look at the fact that the growing awareness among youth. There are many people who are working for ensuring safety of women.

If you need more info, let me know. There are many factors to take into consideration.

 

[Enemy]

^ you compared the rape in BD vs rape in India, not the intensity and number of rape incidents per capita per year!

I don't know why some with Indian flags who may have rape cases pending against them are pointing fingers at other countries. Real Indians are not bothered about what is happening in other countries, they are busy making pressure on the Govt so that the Govt take effective measures to ensure safety and security of women. Just watch the Indian national media and see how all the Indians are concerned with only the society in India. From Delhi to Bangalore, from Kashmir to Kolkata, everywhere Indians are making protests. And here we have some anti social elements who are bashing other countries for something which has affected Indian society.

 

[KRAIT]

Only one case of conviction out of all the rapes last year.
The rape numbers keep going up every year.
And you my friend worried about damage control.
You can't be this thick, I hope not.

From the other thread, the reason why this case made headlines.

It was already simmering. There were many rape cases in Delhi and Gurgaon. A girl was raped in a mall. But I have explained earlier why this case has so much impact. Its shock value is too high. What general people thinks after knowing the conditions of this case

1. Girl was not alone, with her bf. - Now even if the girl is with a man, she is not safe.
2. Crime happened in a public transport bus - Women are not safe in bus, different from other cases where the girl was abducted in a private vehicle like car.
3. New Delhi is supposed to be most secure place in India - What chance does a woman have in rural and small town areas.
4. The brutality involved - It shocked the nation what they did AFTER they raped her.

If you want to understand fear and anger, look at case of serial killers especially in US. Look at case of BTK killer.

Stalin said - A death is a tragedy, a million death is just a statistics.



Also, there are many convictions done but the point is that the punishment is not adequate and the justice system is too slow. Burden of other cases on courts, lack of investigation agencies, too many rapes to handle, police inefficiency etc. etc.

If you look at US, with comparatively less population than India and more advanced labs, more technological advanced police and more density or police, programs like VICAP, registration of sex offenders, presences of Social services for abused children, etc. etc. it is hard for US to control many crimes. Even serial killers can't be caught easily with all these advance labs, centralized systems, etc. You guys have Behavioural Science division in FBI. They train other law agencies. You won't find here.

Also the cases in India are mainly attributed from rural areas and small towns which has even less protection.

But you should also look at the fact that the growing awareness among youth. There are many people who are working for ensuring safety of women.

If you need more info, let me know. There are many factors to take into consideration.

 

[JayAtl]

@fallstuff; what you seeing in India is similar to uproar you saw in china, when the Chinese kid was driven over my cars multiple times over and over again and nobody came to the little child's side to help. as human beings one would expect citizens of the world, everyone, not use this to taunt Indians on the forums. We all should at a minimum be for betterment of all humanity when tragedy strikes.

 

[Enemy]

@fallstuff; what you seeing in India is similar to uproar you saw in china, when the Chinese kid was driven over my cars multiple times over and over again and nobody came to the little child's side to help.

Off topic, post reported.

 

[JayAtl]

Off topic, post reported.

are you daft, do you not read what was posted.

 

[Enemy]

are you daft, do you not read what was posted.

Stop flame bait in this thread. Open your own and bash whichever country you want there.

 

[JayAtl]

Stop flame bait in this thread. Open your own and bash whichever country you want there.

again - you lack of comprehension of what was posted is hilarious

@fallstuff; what you seeing in India is similar to uproar you saw in china, when the Chinese kid was driven over my cars multiple times over and over again and nobody came to the little child's side to help. as human beings one would expect citizens of the world, everyone, not use this to taunt Indians on the forums. We all should at a minimum be for betterment of all humanity when tragedy strikes.

 

[selvan33]

India has got to be the worst place for a women to live in, high rates of infantcide, rape, torture, murder, forced marriage, the inability to go out when you please, see who you want, marry who you want. world's largest democracy that is if your a man.

first try to secure your peoples from your own citizen guns(not only women but men too) and then speak about others.

 

[KingMamba]

From the other thread, the reason why this case made headlines.

It was already simmering. There were many rape cases in Delhi and Gurgaon. A girl was raped in a mall. But I have explained earlier why this case has so much impact. Its shock value is too high. What general people thinks after knowing the conditions of this case

1. Girl was not alone, with her bf. - Now even if the girl is with a man, she is not safe.
2. Crime happened in a public transport bus - Women are not safe in bus, different from other cases where the girl was abducted in a private vehicle like car.
3. New Delhi is supposed to be most secure place in India - What chance does a woman have in rural and small town areas.
4. The brutality involved - It shocked the nation what they did AFTER they raped her.

If you want to understand fear and anger, look at case of serial killers especially in US. Look at case of BTK killer.

Stalin said - A death is a tragedy, a million death is just a statistics.



Also, there are many convictions done but the point is that the punishment is not adequate and the justice system is too slow. Burden of other cases on courts, lack of investigation agencies, too many rapes to handle, police inefficiency etc. etc.

If you look at US, with comparatively less population than India and more advanced labs, more technological advanced police and more density or police, programs like VICAP, registration of sex offenders, presences of Social services for abused children, etc. etc. it is hard for US to control many crimes. Even serial killers can't be caught easily with all these advance labs, centralized systems, etc. You guys have Behavioural Science division in FBI. They train other law agencies. You won't find here.

Also the cases in India are mainly attributed from rural areas and small towns which has even less protection.

But you should also look at the fact that the growing awareness among youth. There are many people who are working for ensuring safety of women.

If you need more info, let me know. There are many factors to take into consideration.

From the other thread, the reason why this case made headlines.

It was already simmering. There were many rape cases in Delhi and Gurgaon. A girl was raped in a mall. But I have explained earlier why this case has so much impact. Its shock value is too high. What general people thinks after knowing the conditions of this case

1. Girl was not alone, with her bf. - Now even if the girl is with a man, she is not safe.
2. Crime happened in a public transport bus - Women are not safe in bus, different from other cases where the girl was abducted in a private vehicle like car.
3. New Delhi is supposed to be most secure place in India - What chance does a woman have in rural and small town areas.
4. The brutality involved - It shocked the nation what they did AFTER they raped her.

If you want to understand fear and anger, look at case of serial killers especially in US. Look at case of BTK killer.

Stalin said - A death is a tragedy, a million death is just a statistics.



Also, there are many convictions done but the point is that the punishment is not adequate and the justice system is too slow. Burden of other cases on courts, lack of investigation agencies, too many rapes to handle, police inefficiency etc. etc.

If you look at US, with comparatively less population than India and more advanced labs, more technological advanced police and more density or police, programs like VICAP, registration of sex offenders, presences of Social services for abused children, etc. etc. it is hard for US to control many crimes. Even serial killers can't be caught easily with all these advance labs, centralized systems, etc. You guys have Behavioural Science division in FBI. They train other law agencies. You won't find here.

Also the cases in India are mainly attributed from rural areas and small towns which has even less protection.

But you should also look at the fact that the growing awareness among youth. There are many people who are working for ensuring safety of women.

If you need more info, let me know. There are many factors to take into consideration.

Actually Stalin never said that.