default risk for pakistan is very high -Miftah Ismail

[Titanium100]

this is what pdm and facilitators thought but guess what saudia, uae are not same as before and dont care.

How about yeah no... It would be like not care about their own security..

 

[AZ1]

How about yeah no... It would be like not care about their own security..

that is myth if they have money they can have better security than Pakistan. Its not 80's.

 

[Titanium100]

that is myth if they have money they can have better security than Pakistan. Its not 80's.

They have good security and large armies but if the enemy becomes multiple as in like major alliances they need nuclear umbrella as last option hence they can never let go of Pakistan despite not liking them

 

[AZ1]

They have good security and large armies but if the enemy becomes multiple as in like major alliances they need nuclear umbrella as last option hence they can never let go of Pakistan despite not liking them

they are not at war so this nuclear thing they dont need maybe later whenever they need by paying double but for that they will not feed pakistan every now and then.

 

[Titanium100]

they are not at war so this nuclear thing they dont need maybe later whenever they need by paying double but for that they will not feed pakistan every now and then.

No.. They will always put some cash in to re-circle the economy and keep it flowing..

Just because you are not in wars today doesn't mean it will be the same in the future.. The world is ruthless and nobody just thinks oh yeah everything will be like ever happy after..

What if a major alliances of 40-50 countries attacks them which is currently there only feasible threat existential threat

 

[TheSolution]

they are not at war so this nuclear thing they dont need maybe later whenever they need by paying double but for that they will not feed pakistan every now and then.

He's Arab and just posts a whole load of nonsense most of the time so I'd ignore him.

Pakistan was already a failed state but it's moving towards an actual collapse now, thanks to the incompetent establishment. Pakistan's value isn't such that they require it to be strong and financially powerful. They just need a weak slave to drag along for their use. Establishment is giving them exactly that.

 

[AZ1]

No.. They will always put some cash in to re-circle the economy and keep it flowing..

Just because you are not in wars today doesn't mean it will be the same in the future.. The world is ruthless and nobody just thinks oh yeah everything will be like ever happy after..

What if a major alliances of 40-50 countries attacks them which is currently there only feasible threat from a militarily pov

if, will etc doesnt count in reality. Why one country will keep feeding another country if there is no such war situation? if in next 50 years they wouldnt have war so they will keep $1billion every year for pakistan? thats $50billion.

When war even hit arab countries will give little.more.extra $2-$3 billion along with 3 year free oil plus 10 lacs more worker visa for arab countries to pakistan etc.

they will not feed pakistan for next 50 years or 100 years thinking one day 20 countries will attack them all of sudden

 

[Titanium100]

He's Arab and just posts a whole load of nonsense most of the time so I'd ignore him.

Pakistan was already a failed state but it's moving towards an actual collapse now, thanks to the incompetent establishment. Pakistan's value isn't such that they require it to be strong and financially powerful. They just need a weak slave to drag along for their use. Establishment is giving them exactly that.

What are you on about...

Look a 2003 article nearly 20 years ago.. I can even bring you articles from the 90s or newspaper from the 60s saying exactly same stuff.. Why did it never happen? Also ask yourself same question... It is the same groupies as the once who talk about the USD crash for decades now saying next year every year or these who say the oil goes dry in 2-3 years every year

September 23, 2003

Pakistan and the IMF: A Relation of Trust
An Article
By Henri Ghesquiere, Senior Resident Representative in Pakistan
Reproduced with permission of Business Recorder
September 23, 2003


One month from now, the 24 Executive Directors of the International Monetary Fund, who represent 184 countries, will likely meet to review Pakistan's recent economic progress. Chances are they will approve a disbursement of about $240 million--one more milestone in Pakistan's economic revival which began four years ago. The approval will be a further nod of encouragement for the Government to persist with its strategy of sustained high economic growth and poverty reduction.

Yet, in Pakistan mistrust of the IMF's intentions abounds. Its three initials evoke economic pain. Many consider the Fund uncaring. They look with incredulity when I assert that the Fund has only one goal in Pakistan: to help the country achieve its full economic potential.

When Pakistan's Government asked financial support from the Fund nearly four years ago, the country stood at the brink of default on its foreign debt. Hardly any international donor or creditor, private or public, was prepared to provide financing unless the IMF led the way by putting its money in Pakistan. When that money came imports kept flowing into the country, averting a crisis of possibly massive bankruptcy and layoffs and even more grinding poverty.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:uuhJs3EnbIcJ:imf.org/external/np/vc/2003/092303.htm&cd=15&hl=da&ct=clnk&gl=dk

 

[HAIDER]

Dollar now 250 in the black market....

 

[epebble]

We have been hearing this shxt for how long now since the 60s Pakistan was to default everyday but hey here we are.. in that time we have seen Iceland, Greece and Sir Lanka default etc etc.. Hack we have been also hearing North Korea to default in the last 70 years.

Look as long as Saudi Arabia, UAE and other gulf states are around Pakistan won't default meaning the oil superpowers. They will never allow it and they have endless amount of oil cash.. In the other end the Chinese won't allow one of their greatest proxy shield default.. North Korea sits against South Korean and Japan which is key for China..

So threads like Pakistan default is overdone just like these rapid youtubers making a new video of the USD collasping everyday lol..

the USD can only collapse in two ways either via worldwide natural distaster or either China and others making something like brics or other economic forums...

Outright default seems unlikely as much external debt is multilateral or bilateral (and not with private lenders like banks). However, the main problem Pakistan will face this decade will be deficit of capital. This will make investments difficult and keep real growth rate low (or even negative considering population growth).

 

[TigerOfMysore]

Somebody needs to give the military Generals an Econ 101 on what it means to default. If they think they can continue to operate in a bubble they are wrong. Default will virtually grind the PA to a halt and result in massive man power reduction. We could see military defections as soldier / officer wages would not sustain their kitchens. Can someone in NDU read this a get a quick crash course for these generals through. I look at their shiny brass buttons and medals, their manicured lawns, their bullet proof mercedes and armed convoys - nothing will survive a default. Wonder if they even understand this?

 

[AZ1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1597089902453481472

 

[AZ1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1597132365163548672

 

[Olympus81]

Mr Miftah, thanks for stating the obvious.

There should be alarm bells ringing.

 

[SIPRA]

Mr Miftah, thanks for stating the obvious.

Make this Mr. "Mufta" a minister, and then ask him tomorrow. His whole narrative will change.