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). But Miss Jinnah’s conduct showed that she was an observing Shia and took her brother’s conversion to Twelver Shiism seriously. Why had Jinnah converted? It develops that he did it on his secular principle of freedom of religion. According to court’s witness, Syed Sharifuddin Pirzada, Jinnah broke from the Ismaili faith in 1901 after his two sisters, Rehmat Bai and Maryam Bai, were married into Sunni Muslim families. It appears that this happened because the Ismaili community objected to these marriages. It also appears that the conversion to Isna-Ashari (Twelver) Shiism happened in Jinnah’s immediate family, and not in the families of his two paternal uncles, Walji and Nathoo.
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I do not agree with you.@MultaniGuy
Why Pakistan is a failed democracy vs India
I am starting to doubt you are Pakistani. Or you are detached from your Pakistani identity to such a large degree because you are living out of Pakistan. Did you even read what I said? I didn't endorse the view. I was speaking from a 3rd person perspective, how dense are you?defence.pk
Then answering to the people who are saying that in 1901 Jinnah broke from the Ismaili Shia faith and became a Sunni when his sisters married Sunnis. But in 1918 Jinnah married to Rattanbai Petit/Maryam Jinnah; and in the Marriage Certificate Fiqh of Jinnah is clearly mentioned as SHIA ASNA ASHRI. How is this possible if he converted to Sunni in 1901 then married according to Shia faith in 1918? (Marraige certificate attached).
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Karachi Administrator Syed Hashim Raza, who participated in the first funeral prayer, wrote in a letter addressed to Muhammad Wasi Khan and then in his autobiography 'Hamari Manzil' that 'I was present at the funeral prayer of Quaid-e-Azam which was conducted by Maulana Syed Anis Al Hasnain Rizvi by Shia way.
https://www.bbc.com/urdu/pakistan-54099423?at_custom3=BBC Urdu&at_custom2=facebook_page&at_custom1=[post type]&at_campaign=64&at_medium=custom7&at_custom4=4AD407CE-F3E4-11EA-8F27-368496E8478F
Yet when he died in 1948, it was necessary for his sister Miss Fatima Jinnah to declare him a Shia in order to inherit his property as per Jinnah’s will. (Sunni law partially rejects the will while Shia law does not.) She filed an affidavit, jointly signed with the Prime Minister of Pakistan, Liaquat Ali Khan, at the Sindh High Court, describing Jinnah as ‘Shia Khoja Mohamedan’ and praying that his will may be disposed of under Shia inheritance law. The court accepted the petition. But on 6 February 1968, after Miss Jinnah’s demise the previous year, her sister Shirin Bai, moved an application at the High Court claiming Miss Jinnah’s property under the Shia inheritance law on the ground that the deceased was a Shia. Hence both Sister & Wife claimed he was Shia.
Given the prestige of Miss Jinnah, she was allowed to dispose of all the property of her brother (as a Sunni she would have title to only one-half) and continued to do so till her death. After her death her sister Shirin Bai arrived in Karachi from Bombay, converted from Ismailism to Twelver Shiism, and laid claim to Jinnah’s property. It is at this point that the rest of Jinnah’s clan, still following the Ismaili faith, decided to challenge the authenticity of Jinnah’s Shia faith with no strong proves. Needless to say, the case is still pending in Karachi(not pending now, as some judge has said on basis of some Khalid Akhter after the demise of Fatima and Ms Jinnah was Sunni
The court proceedings bear evidence of the last rites observed by Miss Jinnah immediately after her brother’s death. Witness Syed Anisul Hasnain, a Shia scholar, deposed that he had arranged the ghusl (last bath) of Jinnah on the instructions of Miss Jinnah. He led his namaz-e janaza (funeral prayer) in a room of the Governor General’s House at which such Shia luminaries as Yusuf Haroon, Hashim Raza and Aftab Hatim Alavi were present, while Liaquat Ali Khan, a Sunni, waited outside the room. After the Shia ritual, the body was handed over to the state, and Maulana Shabbir Ahmad Usmani, a breakaway alim of the Deobandi school of thought who supported Jinnah’s Pakistan Movement but had recently apostatised the Shias, led his janaza (funeral) according to the Sunni ritual at the ground where a grand mausoleum was later constructed. Other witnesses confirmed that after the demise of Miss Fatima Jinnah, clam and panja (two Shia symbols) were discovered at Mohatta Palace, her residence.
Witnesses appearing at the Sindh High Court in 1968 to affirm Jinnah’s sect were Mr I.H. Ispahani, a family friend of Jinnah and his honorary secretary in 1936, and Mr Matloobul Hassan Syed, the Quaid’s private secretary from 1940 to 1944. Mr Ispahani revealed that Jinnah had himself told him in 1936 that he and his family had converted to Shiism after his return from England in 1894. He said that Jinnah had married Ruttie Bai, the daughter of a Parsi businessman according to the Shia ritual during which she was represented by a Shia scholar of Bombay, and Jinnah was represented by his Shia friend, Raja Sahib of Mahmudabad. (Raja Sahib was a close friend of Jinnah but differed completely from him in his belief. He was a devout follower of the Twelver Shia faith and ultimately chose to migrate from an independent India to Najaf in Iraq. His friendship with Jinnah has puzzled many. Apparently, the only bond they had was of the Shia faith.) He, however, conceded that Jinnah was opposed in the Bombay elections by a Shia Conference candidate. Ispahani was present when Miss Fatima Jinnah died in Karachi in 1967. He himself arranged the ghusl and janaza for her at Mohatta Palace according to the Shia ritual before handing over the body to the state. Her Sunni namaz-e janaza was held later at the Polo Ground, after which she was buried next to her brother at a spot chosen by Ispahani inside the mausoleum. Ritualistic Shia talgin (last advice to the deceased) was done after her body was lowered into the grave. (Jinnah had arranged for talgin for Ruttie Bai too when she died in 1929)
His proof of subscription to Shia Khoja Isna Ashri Jamaat is still present also
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Last but not the least if you can visit Wazir Mansion (birthplace of Jinnah) you can see there is inside whole room for Imam Bargah, which is preserved since then and it is definitely not a Sunni thing. Not only this but how is this possible that whole time on Jinnah coffin Alam( a Shia symbol) flies and no one dare to remove it that why there is such thing on Sunni person coffin. (Alam is a thing which most Sunni hates.) Because they all knew that what was his faith.
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And many other proofs are well known to people through all authentic Newspapers & Books internationally and nationally clearly says that JINNAH WAS SHIA
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In the 80s General Ziaul Haq actively censored Jinnah’s photographs in suits, with dogs, and of him smoking cigars.
http://thepartitionofindia.blogspot.com/2012/07/jinnahs-religion-1.html?m=1
I feel really bad even arguing about it- SERIOUSLY!, he did way too much for us to have these stupid arguments
