Decree by Shah Ismail in Azeri Turkish discovered

[Surenas]

What is the purpose of this thread.

Trolling. AKQ always come up after a couple of weeks to open such thread or make such remarks and then everybody is fighting each other and then finally the thread is closed again.

 

[Basbug]

How surprising that there is not even a single comment about the subject itself.

ASQ nobody said or claimed Səfəvi as Persian or Iranian anyway, that would be a joke, when have you ever seen a Persian or Iranian put up a Səfəvi or Shah ismail or anything, Səfəvi was a very strong Turkish empire which was Shia and thus had some problems with Ottoman, but listen to Semistan Elizamanli, Atilla dan Atatürk'e giden yol. What Sultan Selim is for us, Shah ismail is same, what Yıldırım Beyazıt is Timur is same.

 

[Basbug]

We don't give a thing. Should I post Ottomans decrees in Farsi? What do you want to prove? Nobody in Iran gives a rats as$ about your troll-posts. Go cry about your insignificant country who lost some territories to Armenian farmers and can't do a thing about it. Go help your people who are still poorer than many other populations. Such small country with that much of resources, and still the average Iranian has more purchasing power parity than the average Azerbaijani. And that even with all the sanctions!

When there is new statistic published on GDP per capita azerbaycan will be much higher than iran, I don't know the situation now for the numbers but in 10 years azerbaycan will be very rich, even now they are producing very big business and not just oil or gas, Mubariz mansimov making one of the best marinas in Bodrum, plus our strategic partnership, with our help they are going to pass gas to Europe.

 

[Surenas]

When there is new statistic published on GDP per capita azerbaycan will be much higher than iran, I don't know the situation now for the numbers but in 10 years azerbaycan will be very rich, even now they are producing very big business and not just oil or gas, Mubariz mansimov making one of the best marinas in Bodrum, plus our strategic partnership, with our help they are going to pass gas to Europe.

In 10 years much can happen. Iran may have a different regime and all the sanctions might be gone. And then we will surpass both Turkey and Azerbaijan easily.

 

[Basbug]

In 10 years much can happen. Iran may have a different regime and all the sanctions might be gone. And then we will surpass both Turkey and Azerbaijan easily.

That's won't happen I will tell you why and nothing to do with sanctions because even in Shah's times we were ahead of you I will show you in a sec.

 

[Surenas]

That's won't happen I will tell you why and nothing to do with sanctions because even in Shah's times we were ahead of you I will show you in a sec.

Iran's economy during the Shahs times was much bigger than Turkeys. What are you talking about?

 

[Basbug]

Iran's economy during the Shahs times was 3x bigger than Turkeys. What are you talking about?

Surenas please check this . Since 1965 irans economy was bigger than turkeys in these dates 1974-1978 , 1980 to 1989 , - since 1990 turkeys economy was always bigger , and from 1965 to 1973 , so for around 30 years turkeys economy was bigger while irans economy was bigger for like 14 years .

World Development Indicators and Global Development Finance - Google Public Data Explorer

 

[Surenas]

Surenas please check this . Since 1965 irans economy was bigger than turkeys in these dates 1974-1978 , 1980 to 1989 , - since 1990 turkeys economy was always bigger , and from 1965 to 1973 , so for around 30 years turkeys economy was bigger while irans economy was bigger for like 14 years .

World Development Indicators and Global Development Finance - Google Public Data Explorer

You check this out:

''Up to the late 1970s, the Iranian economy showed impressive growth rates. Its growth rate of GDP exceeded even those of the OECD countries, enabling Iran one of the few developing countries succeeding in reducing its relative income gap with the industrial countries.[13] Before 1975, per capita income in Iran grew faster than Turkey. By 1975, the level of per capita income was more than double than that of Turkey. By the late 1970s, however, income per capita in Iran had witnessed a rapid decline, while the growth of Turkey has slowed down during a period of substantial restructuring. By 1990, the living standards in Iran had fallen almost to the 1960 level and fallen behind Turkey (see table below):''

Comparison of Turkey and Iran

And my god, you are really stupid. We were talking about the Shah's time, not after 1979. Iran's economy was much bigger than yours in that era.

 

[Basbug]

Surenas please check this . Since 1965 irans economy was bigger than turkeys in these dates 1974-1978 , 1980 to 1989 , - since 1990 turkeys economy was always bigger , and from 1965 to 1973 , so for around 30 years turkeys economy was bigger while irans economy was bigger for like 14 years .

World Development Indicators and Global Development Finance - Google Public Data Explorer

That is a comparison with a graph and shows it clearly , and it shows that even in Islamic republic , irans economy was good so not all about Shah , Today Turkeys economy is around 880 billion and iran around 450 billion which is nearly double , Turkeys exports are very diversified and exports to EU is dropping to around 40% and less dependant , and sharp increasing trade with 7 Turkish republics and a sharply drop in trade deficit .

You check this out:



Comparison of Turkey and Iran

And my god, you are really stupid. We were talking about the Shah's time, not after 1979. Iran's economy was much bigger than yours in that era.

Your showing me some blog type website from probably an iranian , is that a joke ? I showed you a graph from data from World bank from google since 1965 .

 

[Surenas]

We talked about the Shahs times and about a different regime. Don't compare Iran and Turkey after the revolution of '79, because Iran was sanctioned massively and faced one the most devastating wars of the 20th century.

 

[Basbug]

Did a kid do that website? because theres patterns like a child and i could make a website saying Turkeys economy 1 Trillion in 1950 , and 10x iranian , can you show me some graph , list or information from a proper source as i showed you like World bank , IMF or something like that .

 

[Surenas]

Your showing me some blog type website from probably an iranian , is that a joke ? I showed you a graph from data from World bank from google since 1965 .

The numbers are clear. She's not Iranian, but Turkish. Kocakaya is not a Iranian name.

 

[Basbug]

We talked about the Shahs times and about a different regime. Don't compare Iran and Turkey after the revolution of '79, because Iran was sanctioned massively and faced one the most devastating wars of the 20th century.

Ok shahs times , because on that website i showed which is from World bank the info , it dont show iran in 1960s but only after 1965 , so im not going to say anything about something not there but our economy was probably bigger from the trend , it shows that from 1965 to 1973 our economy was bigger , from 1974 to 1978 your one was bigger and 1979 our one slightly bigger , and then from 1980 our economy drops bad and until 1989 your economy is bigger and from 1990 onwards we are always infront . ( your economy has a sharp drop in 1987 and constantly at drop till 1994 and then rise . our economy very sharp drop in 2009 crisis and then regrowth in 2010 onwards .

So since 1965 , your economy was only bigger from 1974-1978 , then 1980 to 1989 and then from 1990 ours always bigger . Also ours bigger from 1965 to 1973 ( 1974 Cyprus ) .

 

[Serpentine]

Did I say they have different meanings? In Persian "Turk" are pronounced as "Tork".

Do you know what a decree is? Its used in official state affairs. This means that Azeri Turkish was used in state affairs, and this fact qualifies it as a official language of the state.

You have no idea what official language means.During Safavid times,from Shah Ismael to Shah Abbas,the official language of the country was Persian,while the Azerbaijani was commonly used in court and military,especially during Ismael's era.After the capital moved to Isfahan,the court language became Persian too.
In wikipedia,all of the information are available with sources:

Persian (official, coinage,civil administration, court (since Isfahan became capital),high literature, literary, theological discourse,diplomatic correspondence, belles-lettres (adab), historiography, court-based religious posts)
Azerbaijani (court, religious dignitaries, military)


Still I don't understand what you are trying to prove.Shah Ismael,like other kings,was ruling Iran,not Turkistan,not Turkish countries.He never called himself king of Turkiye,Ottomans or any other similar groups,he called himself king of Iran(with all the Persians,Kurds,Turks and those who lived in it),nothing more,nothing less.It is not important for me what his ethnic background is,the important part is he (Safavids) established an empire and unified Iran again and made it rich and powerful.They spread Iranian culture and heritage and hegemony.
But you are the only one here that is obsessed with his ethnic and language,it's like some kind of mental disease.Get over it,before Safavids were Azeris,Kurds,Persians or etc,they were Iranian.

 

[Hack-Hook]

This decree is insignificant? It proves that Azeri Turkish was a official language of the Safavid Empire during Shah Ismail's reign.

I wonder if shah Ismail made only this single decree in her life ?
why not post the rest of his decrees which incidentally are in Persian .