Debunking Indian claims of F-16 firing AIM-120C AMRAAM

[DESERT FIGHTER]

This has already been covered in multiple reports. Wing Co Abhinandan went after F16 which was turining back into Pakistan territory. He got a lock on to F16, however at this time he was potentially on the verge of crossing LOC. His Wingman followed him to cover his ***. He initiated the launch and brought down a F16D. At this point of time - another F16 got a lock on to Wing Co and his wingman; F16 launched 2 AIMs, succesfully engaged Wing Co Abhinandans flight , the other AIM missed its mark and the IAF wingman escaped.
This has been reported. However factually we will come to know only when WingCo is debriefed.
I have a simpler theory. WingCo was brought down by AIM missile , however some of the parts found its way to indian side of LOC; But then this is my thoughts and may not be valid.

Its a matter of time , before truth comes out and it will come out. I will not be surprised there is a HUD recording. But it will be released as deemed fit.


You can concote whatever you want to believe in. In fog of war - truth becomes the first casualty. Unfortuantely in case of Pakistan - prior war history as well as DG ISPR's inaccurate statements points to cover up. Our forces conducted a detailed presser - they categorically said its Mig 21 and it brought down F16. These things cannot be hidden - it will precolate; Especially with indian media and its anti modi stance, they are waiting for negative news. i suspect americans and russians already know this. There will be leaks in Pakistan , after all if F16 has been brought down then family members, friends will talk. It cannot be hidden.

Listen fukwit, the plane you claim as F-16 is your own fuking mig-21.

And guess what? All that serial number shyt got folks at F-16.net all curious and they have done an awesome job taking a dump at indian claims.

For one the engine is a tumansky ised on mig-21.
Secondly the “serial number” written with a marker is fukin BS.. and coincidentally it matches a belgium F-16.

Apart from that entire videos of the wreckage are available.

Qnd thirdly we have both footage and witnesses who saw 2 parachuts from the second shot down indian jet, fall into IOK.

 

[truthseeker2010]

This has already been covered in multiple reports. Wing Co Abhinandan went after F16 which was turining back into Pakistan territory. He got a lock on to F16, however at this time he was potentially on the verge of crossing LOC. His Wingman followed him to cover his ***. He initiated the launch and brought down a F16D. At this point of time - another F16 got a lock on to Wing Co and his wingman; F16 launched 2 AIMs, succesfully engaged Wing Co Abhinandans flight , the other AIM missed its mark and the IAF wingman escaped.
This has been reported. However factually we will come to know only when WingCo is debriefed.
I have a simpler theory. WingCo was brought down by AIM missile , however some of the parts found its way to indian side of LOC; But then this is my thoughts and may not be valid.

Its a matter of time , before truth comes out and it will come out. I will not be surprised there is a HUD recording. But it will be released as deemed fit.


You can concote whatever you want to believe in. In fog of war - truth becomes the first casualty. Unfortuantely in case of Pakistan - prior war history as well as DG ISPR's inaccurate statements points to cover up. Our forces conducted a detailed presser - they categorically said its Mig 21 and it brought down F16. These things cannot be hidden - it will precolate; Especially with indian media and its anti modi stance, they are waiting for negative news. i suspect americans and russians already know this. There will be leaks in Pakistan , after all if F16 has been brought down then family members, friends will talk. It cannot be hidden.



It is very much inspiring to look and stick out for your war hero. The way he conducted himself under captivity is highly commendable. Unlike Pakistanis who have a history of hidding everything from domestic audience. Somewhere family members of F16 fighter pilot (s) is grieving.

Let me tell you a something, the pieces that indian generals had in their hands during press meet were basically their egos. F-16s were used and that missile went into pieces after hitting something, that was the pride of indian air force the MKI, which indian people will never come to know....

 

[Baloch Pakistani]

This time we should not run for peace.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1101788223603466241

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Abe gandu apani harkato se baaj aja, first understand meaning of quoted and quited gawar. First go n have lessons on English to understand sentences correctly , I bet that is how you are taught. N stop spreading false news 3rd class hero.

It was a typo, and so what?
Not everybody is a angraiz ki aulad like you.

3rd class news? what do you have? Parts of a used missile that hit your jet? chullu bhar pani mein doub k mar ja.

If that aint an option, shove this up yours and commit suicide by used Missile (tu isko mout ka dildo imagine kar)
Shamelessly showing a missile that hit their own jet as a fuking victory and now posting american statements about F-16 lol..

 

[Ahassan]

Two Fighter AC were destroyed on 27th Feb .... Indian Media elaborated that Su30 was destroyed ... 3 parachutes was seen ... ISPR sated that we have 2 ... captured ... enemy ... soldiers .... and then changed the statement to 1 (pilot).... (you never know the second one is serving major of Indian army trying to be smart *** to save pilot along his troops) ... you can see all over media that PAF chaps having victory dance .... ( does any one celebrate after losing their comrade????) ... use the damn logic ! and if for instance we used ........ f16 do you have any prudent evidence .... to show ..... (not the damn Missile) many foreign military attaches in Pakistan are laughing at indian armed forces at thr given logic .... showing aim 120 doesn't prove anything .... if there is any significant proof like HUD display .. recording ....indian armed forces should give it to media .... untill then refrain from any claims and stop mentioning any twitter tweets ....

 

[NA71]

After long heated debate on f-16.net forum it was concluded that the wreckage being shown by Indians as F-16 is actually MiG 21. However mystery of PAF 2nd kill is still there along with pilots. could be SU-30 or MiG29 .

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

After long heated debate on f-16.net forum it was concluded that the wreckage being shown by Indians as F-16 is actually MiG 21. However mystery of PAF 2nd kill is still there along with pilots. could be SU-30 or MiG29 .

Lol, india claimed this as f-16
Claimed the number written with a “marker” was f-16s serial number (which they got from f-16.net)

Ironically the people at F-16.net picked it up and it all ended up causing more humiliation... f-16.net thread where they raped indian claims;
http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic...id=6af6e871a522a40896fde10573e67b5f&start=105

 

[Trailer23]

@hacker J , i'd be very careful if I were you of the words you choose - because you are walking down the path of joining a long, but distinguished list of Indian Trolls to be banned from this forum that is called defence.PK .

It must bother you guys a lot that on the 26th you guys claimed that you came into Pakistan Airspace for 22mins (a real accomplishment - if it had happened) and dropped a payload.

On the 26th - we not only have your jet, but your Pilot by the balls screaming and begging for the PAK Army to save him from a mob.

And all you guys have are claims which in the coming days will turn out to be false. Bear in mind, that (if) Lockheed Martin does not get that contract for the F-16/F-21 - they will see no reason to give their jet further bad publicity.

Your Pilot flew Behind Enemy Lines, got hit and ended up a PoW of your Enemy. And you guys have hailed him a Hero. What does that make the PAF Pilot (SQD LDR Hasan Siddiqui) who shot him down?

We gave you your Pilot back in a couple of days. Take him. We don't want/need him.

Air Marshall Hari Kumar 'conveniently' Retires - Perfect Timing. Why was he still in command of an Operation in the West, if he was stepping down in less than 72hrs?

And now, i'd like to revisit my first point of the chest thumping 'Surgical Strikes' that took place on the 26th. So, as of today, after you received your Hero, the statements of the 22mins over Pakistan Airspace are inaccurate. Is that it? So all that hype on the 26th was mere Elections tactics?

Be warned you're walking on thin ice, buddy. So your reply may have some sarcasm - but restrain from using vulgar terms towards myself, or my Pakistani brothers - or you'll have yourself bombarded just like our JF-17's did to you guys.

 

[SABRE]

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[Ahassan]

@hacker J , i'd be very careful if
What does that make the PAF Pilot (SQD LDR Hasan Siddiqui) who shot him down? MM Alam 2.0

 

[Dubious]

It is very much inspiring to look and stick out for your war hero. The way he conducted himself under captivity is highly commendable. Unlike Pakistanis who have a history of hidding everything from domestic audience. Somewhere family members of F16 fighter pilot (s) is grieving.

I ASSURE YOU:
We have 1 of the world's shittiest journalists who are shameless...if there was even a shred of truth there, they would have dug it out by now and aired it with their unprofessionalism

 

[BERKEKHAN2]

I ASSURE YOU:
We have 1 of the world's shittiest journalists who are shameless...if there was even a shred of truth there, they would have dug it out by now and aired it with their unprofessionalism

Censorship

 

[Ahassan]

does this look to you we lost anything???????

bring some serious .... proof .....! your IAF command was sacked .....too

 

[Dubious]

How did you came to that conclusion bro ? Hope you are not smoking something.

Then why not listen to him?
1) PA is hospitalible
2) PA is professional
3) PA saved his (National hero) life, shouldnt you be kissing their feet as per Indian culture?
4) WC National hero Abhi also said your media is not very professional
5) WC National hero Abhi also said you people get emotional due to unprofessional media


Why NATIONAL hero ki baat ki koi izzat nai?

 

[Han Patriot]

does this look to you we lost anything???????

bring some serious .... proof .....! your IAF command was sacked .....too

Doesn't seem to be sad at all, if you look at Indian mood, they don't seem to be bragging nor happy after 'shooting' down a F-16.

It's like how they demoted Jaitley after the ''Doklam" victory. Lol.