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Dear India, your policy on Pakistan is utterly obsolete

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The national security advisors’ meet fiasco has led to some graver questions.

Are both sides losing control to the hardliners?

Are they even aware of the consequences of their actions?

Is there any reset button to undo the damage done?

It is my humble view that the Indian playbook on Pakistan is at least seven to eight years old. Meanwhile, the dangerous brinkmanship on the Line of (no) Control (LoC) continues unabated. The world watches with alarm and weariness, as there is no telling if and when the escalation may spiral out of control.

See it with the eyes of a common man like me, who calls Pakistan his home and has no other place to go to. The said man has to explain to his little kids why there are power outages all the time; why there is no Disney Land in the country or in the neighbourhood; why breaking news always brings to them bad news, angry news, sad news.

He has no suitable explanation for why grown-ups attacked a school in Peshawar, and snatched from many children their right to live and innocence from the rest. And yet, that father – whose job has transformed from sheltering the delicate world of his children to painstakingly elaborate to them one tragedy after another – doesn’t have a heart to explain how close they sit to the epicentre of a possible, if not probable, nuclear holocaust; that the miscalculation of a single day can snatch from them their bright future, their health, their environment and perhaps even their beautiful forms.

Imagine the burden. The anguish and suffocation. I am sure this sense of helplessness is shared on the other side of the border.

Our legacy of hate
India and Pakistan have many things in common. Chief among them is hate. Both have extremist tendencies among their religious majorities, and yet both take incredible pains to blame it on their minorities. In India, Muslims and Christians must be responsible for everything bad. In Pakistan, it must be those wily Ahmadis, Hindus and Christians.

Both countries teach their own versions of history in schools. Recently, a significant amount of hate has been identified in Pakistani school curricula, but that is only the tip of the iceberg. Hatred in both countries does not flow from these books, considering that both states have miserably failed to educate their masses (although this problem also needs to be fixed too).

The real hatred flows from their respective interpretations of history, which finds many mediums to propagate; oral tradition, popular culture, religious discourse and even fairytales when they reach us in our mothers’ laps or in the cradle.

After three generations, the indoctrination is almost complete. And sadly, the underlying motivation is not any vicious conspiracy but the insecurity of the two states. India, which lost Pakistan in 1947, fears this can happen again and Pakistan may foment unrest there. Pakistan has always thought India is out to get it. Both have some reasons to feel suspect each other.

However, when the paranoia, hatred and craziness has reached this height, you know you have to roll back this industry.

The region can no longer afford the Abhinav Bharats and the Lashkars anymore. This has to stop. History is important but not important enough to demand future in ransom. Time is the worst place to get lost into.

Indian misperceptions about Pakistan
1. Pakistan will implode soon
During my last visit to India, I felt that a very distorted view of Pakistan is prevalent there.

Indian intelligentsia perhaps inhales too much of what comes out of the idiot boxes. It is one thing to consume television sensationalism for recreation and altogether another to form an opinion based on it.

The result is that our Indian peers think Pakistan as a country is imploding, and between Indian pressure and terrorism, it is likely to collapse soon. This can lead to some serious miscalculations. But sadly, the attempts to psychoanalyse Pakistan, based on flawed assumptions, continues unabated in Indian media and policy-making circles.

2. Pakistan's military wants to prolong conflict with India
The second misperception is about the civil-military mix. It is widely believed in India and some parts of Pakistan and elsewhere, that the Pakistan Army does not want to resolve outstanding issues with India because it derives legitimacy from the conflict among the nuclear armed neighbours.

This view was quite accurate in 1998 and 1999, when the two sides exploded nuclear bombs and then briefly went to war in Kargil, but not anymore.

Since 9/11, the residual effect notwithstanding, the country’s army has fought hard and with great valour against terrorists. Yes, it was in bits and pieces. Yes, there must be some sympathy somewhere down the food chain for the terrorists and yes, old habits take some time to die. But it is strange that the critics both at home and abroad totally refuse to see the mind-boggling transformation that has taken place.

You see a few retired generals sitting on television parroting their views, and you think nothing has changed. Here is a hint for you: spare some time and meet someone who is in service. You will be surprised.
An average soldier today is better educated, better equipped, better trained and yet remarkably practical in worldview. Ask yourself after so much fight, how can he not be. The stories narrated by the likes of Zaid Hamid and a few others are a sensationalist sideshow meant to keep people amused.

The army today derives its legitimacy from the real and current threats to the nation’s security and territorial integrity, and the vision of the future. The country’s future as a regional trade hub would always justify investment in security. The 10,000 men strong force being raised by the army only to provide security to the China Pakistan Economic Corridor is just the beginning. It is, therefore, in the institutional interest of the army too, to let détente and rapprochement between India and Pakistan take place in a dignified way.

Another transformation is in the mindset. I recently had a long and lovely discussion with a serving officer on mundane matters like tax returns, civic responsibility, best educational options for children and much, much more. He and many other officers are seen speaking vociferously in support of the democratisation of the country.

Misperceptions lead to miscalculations
The misperceptions lead to some serious and lethal miscalculations. For instance, I have gone through most of Indian National Security Advisor, Ajit Doval’s video clips available on the internet. The gentleman sadly chooses to live in his own past. He thinks that pressing Pakistan hard while it combats terrorists will easily bring it down. A few examples given include the unrest in Balochistan and Karachi. He seems unaware that the situation in these two places, while troubling, is no more life threatening for Pakistan.

So no, sir, it won’t bring us down. I am amazed that by your admission, you have spent seven years as an undercover agent in Pakistan and you have failed to see what is best in us – our ability to survive and fight back.

By believing in this nonsense, the current policy-making circles are only feeding a war hysteria that will soon backfire.

The second miscalculation is to think that the country’s civil and military leadership can be played against each other, giving the plotter a virtual walkover. The Dr Strangeloves in the media notwithstanding, the civil military leadership of the country right now is undivided on the matter, especially owing to similar domestic attempts recently.

In their simplistic interpretations of Pakistan, the Indian side repeatedly walks into traps that are bound to leave it badly bruised. They lack a holistic approach towards Pakistan, which treats it as a sovereign state. In trying to weaken the Pakistani government, the Delhi sarkaar betrays a characteristic lack of imagination and weakens its own standing, as the constituency for peace here loses faith in the process.

The way forward
Everyone in Pakistan understands that India has some legitimate concerns. Pakistan’s concerns are not less known in the Indian policy circles either. No one has any delusions that the longstanding issues on both sides would be resolved overnight or in a few meetings.

The only reason why the relatively new government in New Delhi opposes any mention of the ‘K word’ is because it wants to take maximum political mileage out of any interaction. It is perceived as yet another attempt to divide Pakistan and bring it down. It won’t work. In fact, this reckless attitude is bringing all stakeholders together. Better treat Pakistan as a single entity like our side tries to do.

Formal resumption of multi-dimensional talks could help both sides control unnecessary paranoia while renewing the opportunity to understand each other. But the only opportunity for that in sight is a month away, when the two sides can meet UN General Assembly sidelines. Somehow, even that seems a far-fetched possibility.

Then perhaps, the better way for both sides would be to take a break, let border forces and DGMOs interact in a professional environment and away from the prying eyes of the media hawks. Back-channel diplomacy can work too. But it is in the interest of both sides to do away with the war hysteria and to let things cool off


Dear India, your policy on Pakistan is utterly obsolete - Blogs - DAWN.COM
 
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Our policy is not out dated, India is now working on its growth isolating any efforts of peace talks which in any case are not expected to bear any fruit
 
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This view was quite accurate in 1998 and 1999, when the two sides exploded nuclear bombs and then briefly went to war in Kargil, but not anymore.
Author is subtly saying "yeah we realized that nuclear weapons made no difference whatsoever we still ended losing like before".
Pakistanis are more pissed off and frustrated that every now then they come up with saying India failed. All the articles indirectly beg India to get back to talks and go on to suggest that India is a loser. Dont understand why a country like pakistan which at the drop of a hat resorts to nuclear rhetoric should be concerned of not having talks. If India is the one to lose by not having talks, pakistan must be tremendously happy rt?
 
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The national security advisors’ meet fiasco has led to some graver questions.

Are both sides losing control to the hardliners?

Are they even aware of the consequences of their actions?

Is there any reset button to undo the damage done?

It is my humble view that the Indian playbook on Pakistan is at least seven to eight years old. Meanwhile, the dangerous brinkmanship on the Line of (no) Control (LoC) continues unabated. The world watches with alarm and weariness, as there is no telling if and when the escalation may spiral out of control.

See it with the eyes of a common man like me, who calls Pakistan his home and has no other place to go to. The said man has to explain to his little kids why there are power outages all the time; why there is no Disney Land in the country or in the neighbourhood; why breaking news always brings to them bad news, angry news, sad news.

He has no suitable explanation for why grown-ups attacked a school in Peshawar, and snatched from many children their right to live and innocence from the rest. And yet, that father – whose job has transformed from sheltering the delicate world of his children to painstakingly elaborate to them one tragedy after another – doesn’t have a heart to explain how close they sit to the epicentre of a possible, if not probable, nuclear holocaust; that the miscalculation of a single day can snatch from them their bright future, their health, their environment and perhaps even their beautiful forms.

Imagine the burden. The anguish and suffocation. I am sure this sense of helplessness is shared on the other side of the border.

Our legacy of hate
India and Pakistan have many things in common. Chief among them is hate. Both have extremist tendencies among their religious majorities, and yet both take incredible pains to blame it on their minorities. In India, Muslims and Christians must be responsible for everything bad. In Pakistan, it must be those wily Ahmadis, Hindus and Christians.

Both countries teach their own versions of history in schools. Recently, a significant amount of hate has been identified in Pakistani school curricula, but that is only the tip of the iceberg. Hatred in both countries does not flow from these books, considering that both states have miserably failed to educate their masses (although this problem also needs to be fixed too).

The real hatred flows from their respective interpretations of history, which finds many mediums to propagate; oral tradition, popular culture, religious discourse and even fairytales when they reach us in our mothers’ laps or in the cradle.

After three generations, the indoctrination is almost complete. And sadly, the underlying motivation is not any vicious conspiracy but the insecurity of the two states. India, which lost Pakistan in 1947, fears this can happen again and Pakistan may foment unrest there. Pakistan has always thought India is out to get it. Both have some reasons to feel suspect each other.

However, when the paranoia, hatred and craziness has reached this height, you know you have to roll back this industry.

The region can no longer afford the Abhinav Bharats and the Lashkars anymore. This has to stop. History is important but not important enough to demand future in ransom. Time is the worst place to get lost into.

Indian misperceptions about Pakistan
1. Pakistan will implode soon
During my last visit to India, I felt that a very distorted view of Pakistan is prevalent there.

Indian intelligentsia perhaps inhales too much of what comes out of the idiot boxes. It is one thing to consume television sensationalism for recreation and altogether another to form an opinion based on it.

The result is that our Indian peers think Pakistan as a country is imploding, and between Indian pressure and terrorism, it is likely to collapse soon. This can lead to some serious miscalculations. But sadly, the attempts to psychoanalyse Pakistan, based on flawed assumptions, continues unabated in Indian media and policy-making circles.

2. Pakistan's military wants to prolong conflict with India
The second misperception is about the civil-military mix. It is widely believed in India and some parts of Pakistan and elsewhere, that the Pakistan Army does not want to resolve outstanding issues with India because it derives legitimacy from the conflict among the nuclear armed neighbours.

This view was quite accurate in 1998 and 1999, when the two sides exploded nuclear bombs and then briefly went to war in Kargil, but not anymore.

Since 9/11, the residual effect notwithstanding, the country’s army has fought hard and with great valour against terrorists. Yes, it was in bits and pieces. Yes, there must be some sympathy somewhere down the food chain for the terrorists and yes, old habits take some time to die. But it is strange that the critics both at home and abroad totally refuse to see the mind-boggling transformation that has taken place.

You see a few retired generals sitting on television parroting their views, and you think nothing has changed. Here is a hint for you: spare some time and meet someone who is in service. You will be surprised.
An average soldier today is better educated, better equipped, better trained and yet remarkably practical in worldview. Ask yourself after so much fight, how can he not be. The stories narrated by the likes of Zaid Hamid and a few others are a sensationalist sideshow meant to keep people amused.

The army today derives its legitimacy from the real and current threats to the nation’s security and territorial integrity, and the vision of the future. The country’s future as a regional trade hub would always justify investment in security. The 10,000 men strong force being raised by the army only to provide security to the China Pakistan Economic Corridor is just the beginning. It is, therefore, in the institutional interest of the army too, to let détente and rapprochement between India and Pakistan take place in a dignified way.

Another transformation is in the mindset. I recently had a long and lovely discussion with a serving officer on mundane matters like tax returns, civic responsibility, best educational options for children and much, much more. He and many other officers are seen speaking vociferously in support of the democratisation of the country.

Misperceptions lead to miscalculations
The misperceptions lead to some serious and lethal miscalculations. For instance, I have gone through most of Indian National Security Advisor, Ajit Doval’s video clips available on the internet. The gentleman sadly chooses to live in his own past. He thinks that pressing Pakistan hard while it combats terrorists will easily bring it down. A few examples given include the unrest in Balochistan and Karachi. He seems unaware that the situation in these two places, while troubling, is no more life threatening for Pakistan.

So no, sir, it won’t bring us down. I am amazed that by your admission, you have spent seven years as an undercover agent in Pakistan and you have failed to see what is best in us – our ability to survive and fight back.

By believing in this nonsense, the current policy-making circles are only feeding a war hysteria that will soon backfire.

The second miscalculation is to think that the country’s civil and military leadership can be played against each other, giving the plotter a virtual walkover. The Dr Strangeloves in the media notwithstanding, the civil military leadership of the country right now is undivided on the matter, especially owing to similar domestic attempts recently.

In their simplistic interpretations of Pakistan, the Indian side repeatedly walks into traps that are bound to leave it badly bruised. They lack a holistic approach towards Pakistan, which treats it as a sovereign state. In trying to weaken the Pakistani government, the Delhi sarkaar betrays a characteristic lack of imagination and weakens its own standing, as the constituency for peace here loses faith in the process.

The way forward
Everyone in Pakistan understands that India has some legitimate concerns. Pakistan’s concerns are not less known in the Indian policy circles either. No one has any delusions that the longstanding issues on both sides would be resolved overnight or in a few meetings.

The only reason why the relatively new government in New Delhi opposes any mention of the ‘K word’ is because it wants to take maximum political mileage out of any interaction. It is perceived as yet another attempt to divide Pakistan and bring it down. It won’t work. In fact, this reckless attitude is bringing all stakeholders together. Better treat Pakistan as a single entity like our side tries to do.

Formal resumption of multi-dimensional talks could help both sides control unnecessary paranoia while renewing the opportunity to understand each other. But the only opportunity for that in sight is a month away, when the two sides can meet UN General Assembly sidelines. Somehow, even that seems a far-fetched possibility.

Then perhaps, the better way for both sides would be to take a break, let border forces and DGMOs interact in a professional environment and away from the prying eyes of the media hawks. Back-channel diplomacy can work too. But it is in the interest of both sides to do away with the war hysteria and to let things cool off


Dear India, your policy on Pakistan is utterly obsolete - Blogs - DAWN.COM

Lol:lol:
A common man in India dont even care about Pakistan .Let alone the so called helplessness :D :rofl:
They have a lots of other things to do.
As an Indian ,AFAIK, there is not problem in our curriculum and education.A Pakistani cant think about that..
Our minorities dont have to escape or flow to another nation like that is happening in Pakistan.
We Indians dont hate Pakistan because our lives and policies are not based on Pakistan .For us Pakistan is just a headache.

Ajit Doval IPS is our National Security Advisor and he knows a lots about his job than some blogger.

Author is subtly saying "yeah we realized that nuclear weapons made no difference whatsoever we still ended losing like before".
Pakistanis are more pissed off and frustrated that every now then they come up with saying India failed. All the articles indirectly beg India to get back to talks and go on to suggest that India is a loser. Dont understand why a country like pakistan which at the drop of a hat resorts to nuclear rhetoric should be concerned of not having talks. If India is the one to lose by not having talks, pakistan must be tremendously happy rt?


Of Course that is What I was thinking.Indian society dont even care about such talks .
But on other side people is churning out articles aout this talk failure on daily basis.
Pathetic
 
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we have no policy for insignificant country like pakistan for example... we cancel talks out the blue as we please after setting pre conditions.
 
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Of Course that is What I was thinking.Indian society dont even care about such talks .
But on other side people is churning out articles aout this talk failure on daily basis.
Pathetic
World is watching them, americans are leaving afghanistan and now they need a good certificate for IMF/world bank loans.
Once americas leave they care to give a hoot for what pakistan says, they have been left twisted, mangled by lies , deceit so much pakistan needs some new bakras to put the blame on. So they call for talks but want to avoid talking on terrorism but they can consult ex/existing terrorists from kashmir. Add NSG deal , military deals have made them too envious and their nukes have not produced any desired result. Americans earlier wanted to hyphenated india-pak to pull india down.
Now they hyphenate india with china to piss china off. Make hay while it shines.
 
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Ideally at this point of time Pakistan should focus on fixing its internal problems and raising its economy, keep the Kashmir on back burner and get all your engines firing up to excel the growth. Engaging with India will unnecessarily derail its growth and will shift focus back to borders.
At the same time, India can focus on how to increase the global foot print and avoid the impact of global recession.

If both country can focus on this two aspects and keep Kashmir in back, it will ensure peace and growth in Kashmir and P-O-K too.
 
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The national security advisors’ meet fiasco has led to some graver questions.

Are both sides losing control to the hardliners?

Are they even aware of the consequences of their actions?

Is there any reset button to undo the damage done?

It is my humble view that the Indian playbook on Pakistan is at least seven to eight years old. Meanwhile, the dangerous brinkmanship on the Line of (no) Control (LoC) continues unabated. The world watches with alarm and weariness, as there is no telling if and when the escalation may spiral out of control.

See it with the eyes of a common man like me, who calls Pakistan his home and has no other place to go to. The said man has to explain to his little kids why there are power outages all the time; why there is no Disney Land in the country or in the neighbourhood; why breaking news always brings to them bad news, angry news, sad news.

He has no suitable explanation for why grown-ups attacked a school in Peshawar, and snatched from many children their right to live and innocence from the rest. And yet, that father – whose job has transformed from sheltering the delicate world of his children to painstakingly elaborate to them one tragedy after another – doesn’t have a heart to explain how close they sit to the epicentre of a possible, if not probable, nuclear holocaust; that the miscalculation of a single day can snatch from them their bright future, their health, their environment and perhaps even their beautiful forms.

Imagine the burden. The anguish and suffocation. I am sure this sense of helplessness is shared on the other side of the border.

Our legacy of hate
India and Pakistan have many things in common. Chief among them is hate. Both have extremist tendencies among their religious majorities, and yet both take incredible pains to blame it on their minorities. In India, Muslims and Christians must be responsible for everything bad. In Pakistan, it must be those wily Ahmadis, Hindus and Christians.

Both countries teach their own versions of history in schools. Recently, a significant amount of hate has been identified in Pakistani school curricula, but that is only the tip of the iceberg. Hatred in both countries does not flow from these books, considering that both states have miserably failed to educate their masses (although this problem also needs to be fixed too).

The real hatred flows from their respective interpretations of history, which finds many mediums to propagate; oral tradition, popular culture, religious discourse and even fairytales when they reach us in our mothers’ laps or in the cradle.

After three generations, the indoctrination is almost complete. And sadly, the underlying motivation is not any vicious conspiracy but the insecurity of the two states. India, which lost Pakistan in 1947, fears this can happen again and Pakistan may foment unrest there. Pakistan has always thought India is out to get it. Both have some reasons to feel suspect each other.

However, when the paranoia, hatred and craziness has reached this height, you know you have to roll back this industry.

The region can no longer afford the Abhinav Bharats and the Lashkars anymore. This has to stop. History is important but not important enough to demand future in ransom. Time is the worst place to get lost into.

Indian misperceptions about Pakistan
1. Pakistan will implode soon
During my last visit to India, I felt that a very distorted view of Pakistan is prevalent there.

Indian intelligentsia perhaps inhales too much of what comes out of the idiot boxes. It is one thing to consume television sensationalism for recreation and altogether another to form an opinion based on it.

The result is that our Indian peers think Pakistan as a country is imploding, and between Indian pressure and terrorism, it is likely to collapse soon. This can lead to some serious miscalculations. But sadly, the attempts to psychoanalyse Pakistan, based on flawed assumptions, continues unabated in Indian media and policy-making circles.

2. Pakistan's military wants to prolong conflict with India
The second misperception is about the civil-military mix. It is widely believed in India and some parts of Pakistan and elsewhere, that the Pakistan Army does not want to resolve outstanding issues with India because it derives legitimacy from the conflict among the nuclear armed neighbours.

This view was quite accurate in 1998 and 1999, when the two sides exploded nuclear bombs and then briefly went to war in Kargil, but not anymore.

Since 9/11, the residual effect notwithstanding, the country’s army has fought hard and with great valour against terrorists. Yes, it was in bits and pieces. Yes, there must be some sympathy somewhere down the food chain for the terrorists and yes, old habits take some time to die. But it is strange that the critics both at home and abroad totally refuse to see the mind-boggling transformation that has taken place.

You see a few retired generals sitting on television parroting their views, and you think nothing has changed. Here is a hint for you: spare some time and meet someone who is in service. You will be surprised.
An average soldier today is better educated, better equipped, better trained and yet remarkably practical in worldview. Ask yourself after so much fight, how can he not be. The stories narrated by the likes of Zaid Hamid and a few others are a sensationalist sideshow meant to keep people amused.

The army today derives its legitimacy from the real and current threats to the nation’s security and territorial integrity, and the vision of the future. The country’s future as a regional trade hub would always justify investment in security. The 10,000 men strong force being raised by the army only to provide security to the China Pakistan Economic Corridor is just the beginning. It is, therefore, in the institutional interest of the army too, to let détente and rapprochement between India and Pakistan take place in a dignified way.

Another transformation is in the mindset. I recently had a long and lovely discussion with a serving officer on mundane matters like tax returns, civic responsibility, best educational options for children and much, much more. He and many other officers are seen speaking vociferously in support of the democratisation of the country.

Misperceptions lead to miscalculations
The misperceptions lead to some serious and lethal miscalculations. For instance, I have gone through most of Indian National Security Advisor, Ajit Doval’s video clips available on the internet. The gentleman sadly chooses to live in his own past. He thinks that pressing Pakistan hard while it combats terrorists will easily bring it down. A few examples given include the unrest in Balochistan and Karachi. He seems unaware that the situation in these two places, while troubling, is no more life threatening for Pakistan.

So no, sir, it won’t bring us down. I am amazed that by your admission, you have spent seven years as an undercover agent in Pakistan and you have failed to see what is best in us – our ability to survive and fight back.

By believing in this nonsense, the current policy-making circles are only feeding a war hysteria that will soon backfire.

The second miscalculation is to think that the country’s civil and military leadership can be played against each other, giving the plotter a virtual walkover. The Dr Strangeloves in the media notwithstanding, the civil military leadership of the country right now is undivided on the matter, especially owing to similar domestic attempts recently.

In their simplistic interpretations of Pakistan, the Indian side repeatedly walks into traps that are bound to leave it badly bruised. They lack a holistic approach towards Pakistan, which treats it as a sovereign state. In trying to weaken the Pakistani government, the Delhi sarkaar betrays a characteristic lack of imagination and weakens its own standing, as the constituency for peace here loses faith in the process.

The way forward
Everyone in Pakistan understands that India has some legitimate concerns. Pakistan’s concerns are not less known in the Indian policy circles either. No one has any delusions that the longstanding issues on both sides would be resolved overnight or in a few meetings.

The only reason why the relatively new government in New Delhi opposes any mention of the ‘K word’ is because it wants to take maximum political mileage out of any interaction. It is perceived as yet another attempt to divide Pakistan and bring it down. It won’t work. In fact, this reckless attitude is bringing all stakeholders together. Better treat Pakistan as a single entity like our side tries to do.

Formal resumption of multi-dimensional talks could help both sides control unnecessary paranoia while renewing the opportunity to understand each other. But the only opportunity for that in sight is a month away, when the two sides can meet UN General Assembly sidelines. Somehow, even that seems a far-fetched possibility.

Then perhaps, the better way for both sides would be to take a break, let border forces and DGMOs interact in a professional environment and away from the prying eyes of the media hawks. Back-channel diplomacy can work too. But it is in the interest of both sides to do away with the war hysteria and to let things cool off


Dear India, your policy on Pakistan is utterly obsolete - Blogs - DAWN.COM

author don't have any idea about india. in india there is no extremist tendencies to minorities.. author is living in a paranoia, he wants to believe that India is like pakistan where minorities are facing problems and get marginalized . and it is an open secret that pakistan army didn't want any peace talk with india because india is the reason why they got respect and a huge defense budget. their propaganda helps them to justify the reason for taking large portion of national budget for defense.

Lol:lol:
A common man in India dont even care about Pakistan .Let alone the so called helplessness :D :rofl:
They have a lots of other things to do.
As an Indian ,AFAIK, there is not problem in our curriculum and education.A Pakistani cant think about that..
Our minorities dont have to escape or flow to another nation like that is happening in Pakistan.
We Indians dont hate Pakistan because our lives and policies are not based on Pakistan .For us Pakistan is just a headache.

Ajit Doval IPS is our National Security Advisor and he knows a lots about his job than some blogger.




Of Course that is What I was thinking.Indian society dont even care about such talks .
But on other side people is churning out articles aout this talk failure on daily basis.
Pathetic

well said bro... these pakistanis don't even have any idea about indians.. common indians don't even care about pakistan. but pakistanis in their paranoia thinks that we are like them.
 
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onli answer to the writer of this article ... dear pakistan your policy on kashmir , bleed india dry thru 1000 cuts and fighting a war with india for 1000 years is way too too owtdated chnage that onli then india might thinking for changing its new poilcy to ignoare pakistan :coffee:
 
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This is not a misconception. We have seen many proof onf this on ground. Whenever we tried to improve the relationship, PA army steped in to derail it.
Logic is out of understanding, PA wouldn't want to end the Kashmir crisis, only way to do that is by talking to India. PA wouldn't want peace in the region, please answer these questions and i must say, please come up with better logic next time.
If both country can focus on this two aspects and keep Kashmir in back, it will ensure peace and growth in Kashmir and P-O-K too
Pakistan side of AJK and GB are economically and socially doing much better, better than the rest of the country, better in general.
India needs to get a better leadership, someone who is willing to change things, faces like Modi do not expect results as he will never compromise on Pakistan, and his hatred will never allow him to change his policy toward Pakistan.
 
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Indian foreign policy is unbeatable. We indians are satisfied with our foreign policy. And now we have strongest foreign Minister ever( Smt. Sushma sawraaj) and strongest govt in center . But do Pakistani can say same about their foreign policy and about Govt?? Answer is No. Mr. Nawaz sarif is not so strong man in Pakistan, but Rahil sarif is. Pakistani foreign policy is like nobody cares , it acctualy has no foreign policy. So Pakistan need to be change , not India.
We Indian's don't even care about Pakistan. We here trying to work hard to compete with US and China in economy. Sorry Pakistan India is very busy right now, will talk later. :coffee:
 
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Logic is out of understanding, PA wouldn't want to end the Kashmir crisis, only way to do that is by talking to India. PA wouldn't want peace in the region, please answer these questions and i must say, please come up with better logic next time.
He is an Indian and this is the best he could have done, blame it on Pakistan/Pakistan Army. Their entire politics revolve around hatred towards Pakistan so don't expect them to make any sense.
 
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The typical bharti BS response is, its always Pakistan fault. Whereas the reality is that some how India believes that it can berate Pakistan and force it to accept its terms. There is no dialogue in Indian mind, instead just a list of demands that Pakistan must give into. For all its worth, Pakistan should ignore the bahrti BS and make not any efforts as long as Bhartis dont regain some sanity.
 
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