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Finally.......It took long enough.


Deal on 1,200-MW Matarbari power plant sealed

BSS . Dhaka | Update: 19:10, Aug 09, 2017



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The state-owned Coal Power Generation Company Bangladesh Ltd (CPGCBL) finalised a major deal for constructing the country's largest ever coal-fired power plant in Matarbari, Cox's Bazar.

"We signed the EPC (Engineering Procurement and Construction) contract on 27 July with Japanese firm Sumitomo Corporation, Toshiba Corporation and IHI Corporation for constructing 1,200-megawatt Matarbari coal-fired power plant," managing director of CPGCBL Md Abul Quasem told BSS.
He said a post-contract event will be held tomorrow in a city hotel. Finance minister Abul Maal Abdul Muhith, prime minister's power, energy and mineral resources affairs adviser Tawfiq-e-Elahi Chowdhury and state minister for power, energy and mineral resources Nasrul Hamid will attend the event, among others.
According to the contract, the lead contractor, Sumitomo Consortium, would construct the power plant by December 2022, Quasem said.
Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA) will provide $4.56 billion for the project when the government would arrange necessary additional funding.
Officials said the government attached top priority to the Matarbari power project and the plant would be built after addressing all environmental concerns with effective measures.
On completion, the coal-fired Matarbari plant will have an installed capacity of 1,200MW, with two units having capacity of 600MW each. The project also includes a deep-sea port near the plant for handling coal imports for the plant.

http://en.prothom-alo.com/economy/news/155881/Deal-on-1-200-MW-Matarbari-power-plant-sealed
 
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Holy Fck 4.6B for 1200MW coal power plant.... Man JICA is milking Bangaldesh. Hasina is looting you. @Nilgiri @Khan_21

Ruling PM Hasina and her son sajeeb wazed joy (grandson of sheikh mujib) taking these loot from Bangladesh and stashing ill gotten loot into diamond and casino chip.
 
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Holy Fck 4.6B for 1200MW coal power plant.... Man JICA is milking Bangaldesh. Hasina is looting you. @Nilgiri @Khan_21

It's not even the final cost, apparently this is what JICA will approve when the BD govt provides "additional" funding.

Also its not really Hasina per se, this kind of terrible cost would be there under any administration in BD...for reasons I have explained before.
 
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i think it includes deep sea port too to handle coal

Man we have build Bhiki Power Plant and Haveli Bahadur Shah Combined cycle power plant with each estimated cost of 500million uSD with each cap of 1230MW. what sort of deep port they gonna built with 3B usd even if we consider plant is of 1,5B usd. First metro train now this. Either JICA is looting them or Govt is doing something behind the scene. @Nilgiri
 
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It's not even the final cost, apparently this is what JICA will approve when the BD govt provides "additional" funding.

Also its not really Hasina per se, this kind of terrible cost would be there under any administration in BD...for reasons I have explained before.

utter BS, no one in history looted such amount from Bangladesh. Ruling awami league essentially looting money under gunpoint.

Man we have build Bhiki Power Plant and Haveli Bahadur Shah Combined cycle power plant with each estimated cost of 500million uSD with each cap of 1230MW. what sort of deep port they gonna built with 3B usd even if we consider plant is of 1,5B usd. First metro train now this. Either JICA is looting them or Govt is doing something behind the scene. @Nilgiri

its Japanese company through JICA and ruling awami league looting from the project.
 
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Man we have build Bhiki Power Plant and Haveli Bahadur Shah Combined cycle power plant with each estimated cost of 500million uSD with each cap of 1230MW. what sort of deep port they gonna built with 3B usd even if we consider plant is of 1,5B usd. First metro train now this. Either JICA is looting them or Govt is doing something behind the scene. @Nilgiri

Bangladesh each year stays in the same low score in corruption perception index for a reason.

Pakistan and India (as bad as corruption is there still) have been making good progress on that front in comparison.

utter BS, no one in history looted such amount from Bangladesh. Ruling awami league essentially looting money under gunpoint.

If you say so. But highest level admin corruption is small portion compared to general bureaucratic corruption in BD (and latter is where most opportunity cost is also generated). Thats just because of ratio of how people are assigned in hierarchy....this bureaucracy sticks with any administration of BD, and none of them have made serious effort to change it, because they gain from it when in power more than they "lose" from it when they are not.....no matter what BNP and others may say to contrary.

its Japanese company through JICA and ruling awami league looting from the project.

Japanese companies themselves are not indulged in such corruption. They are just passing on the costs of BD corruption and inefficiency because thats what their insurance companies have assigned them (on the back of their own data regarding what BD project capacity and thus required risk premiums are).
 
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Man we have build Bhiki Power Plant and Haveli Bahadur Shah Combined cycle power plant with each estimated cost of 500million uSD with each cap of 1230MW. what sort of deep port they gonna built with 3B usd even if we consider plant is of 1,5B usd. First metro train now this. Either JICA is looting them or Govt is doing something behind the scene. @Nilgiri
may Allah be with them thn what else i can say n i think they deserve her the way we deserve what noonies doing with us we the people of subcontinent will never learn
 
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If you say so. But highest level admin corruption is small portion compared to general bureaucratic corruption in BD (and latter is where most opportunity cost is also generated). Thats just because of ratio of how people are assigned in hierarchy....this bureaucracy sticks with any administration of BD, and none of them have made serious effort to change it, because they gain from it when in power more than they "lose" from it when they are not.....no matter what BNP and others may say to contrary.

Let me break it down for you.

1)Political leadership corruption - that is wholesale looting - this adds highest cost to project and national economy, much higher than in india and Pakistan or any other country for that matter.

2) bureaucratic corruption (in the context of specific project) - much lower (only fraction) in amount compared to political leadership looting. These are mostly to push through admin approval and process.

3) bureaucratic inefficiency - there is cost involved with inefficiency and that is also much lower compared to political leadership looting.

2+3 exists in any "developing" country BUT does not drive up cost 5-6 folds. It is 1) political looting what incurring such astronomical cost. Just an example, ruling awami league regime purchased power from rental power plants at price 10 to 12 times higher than market price. Then turned around sold fuel to these rental power plants in subsidized price. Bangladesh end up paying 1/3 of revenue govt collects to pay for these subsidy and 10/12 times more than actual cost. All these rental power plants were awarded to ruling awami league leaders without any bidding. On top of that, ruling awami league passed special law in parliament to protect their wholesale looting and no one can challenge these rental power plant contract. Can you imagine indian political class loot in that scale and then pass law in parliament to make themselves immune from law??? Nowhere, except in some kingdom, such looting and plundering happens.
 
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Let me break it down for you.

1)Political leadership corruption - that is wholesale looting - this adds highest cost to project and national economy, much higher than in india and Pakistan or any other country for that matter.

2) bureaucratic corruption (in the context of specific project) - much lower (only fraction) in amount compared to political leadership looting. These are mostly to push through admin approval and process.

3) bureaucratic inefficiency - there is cost involved with inefficiency and that is also much lower compared to political leadership looting.

2+3 exists in any "developing" country BUT does not drive up cost 5-6 folds. It is 1) political looting what incurring such astronomical cost. Just an example, ruling awami league regime purchased power from rental power plants at price 10 to 12 times higher than market price. Then turned around sold fuel to these rental power plants in subsidized price. Bangladesh end up paying 1/3 of revenue govt collects to pay for these subsidy and 10/12 times more than actual cost. All these rental power plants were awarded to ruling awami league leaders without any bidding. On top of that, ruling awami league passed special law in parliament to protect their wholesale looting and no one can challenge these rental power plant contract. Can you imagine indian political class loot in that scale and then pass law in parliament to make themselves immune from law??? Nowhere, except in some kingdom, such looting and plundering happens.

Fair enough analysis...how it exists and manifests need to be made aware to regular people of BD...so they apply enough pressure to fight against it....but they still not doing so. Politicians will generally act this way anywhere in the world when they can do so and there is no oversight and real threat of blowback when red lines are consistently violated. BD politics seem to simply not evolved at all past identity politics these days....again plays into hand of the politicians.

You are capable of being a non - foul guy when you engage in this manner btw, hope you continue this attitude to discuss things with me and others. Your message also becomes stronger and more credible too.
 
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Fair enough analysis...how it exists and manifests need to be made aware to regular people of BD...so they apply enough pressure to fight against it....but they still not doing so. Politicians will generally act this way anywhere in the world when they can do so and there is no oversight and real threat of blowback when red lines are consistently violated. BD politics seem to simply not evolved at all past identity politics these days....again plays into hand of the politicians.

You are capable of being a non - foul guy when you engage in this manner btw, hope you continue this attitude to discuss things with me and others. Your message also becomes stronger and more credible too.


By his standard the last post was better than usual.

I would like to add the price per kw/h for rental power plants is around twice BPDB run power plants - 16tk to 8k, and not 10-12 times as claimed. Also take the 1/3rd of government revenues being spent to subsidise rental power plants with a pinch of salt as well - any basic understanding of mathematics will make you realise that this is impossible.

The 4.6 billion US dollar for the Japanese coal plant and port is expensive but even in better run countries, expect it to cost around 3-3.5 billion dollars and not like 500 million dollars as claimed lol.
 
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Let me break it down for you.

1)Political leadership corruption - that is wholesale looting - this adds highest cost to project and national economy, much higher than in india and Pakistan or any other country for that matter.

2) bureaucratic corruption (in the context of specific project) - much lower (only fraction) in amount compared to political leadership looting. These are mostly to push through admin approval and process.

3) bureaucratic inefficiency - there is cost involved with inefficiency and that is also much lower compared to political leadership looting.

2+3 exists in any "developing" country BUT does not drive up cost 5-6 folds. It is 1) political looting what incurring such astronomical cost. Just an example, ruling awami league regime purchased power from rental power plants at price 10 to 12 times higher than market price. Then turned around sold fuel to these rental power plants in subsidized price. Bangladesh end up paying 1/3 of revenue govt collects to pay for these subsidy and 10/12 times more than actual cost. All these rental power plants were awarded to ruling awami league leaders without any bidding. On top of that, ruling awami league passed special law in parliament to protect their wholesale looting and no one can challenge these rental power plant contract. Can you imagine indian political class loot in that scale and then pass law in parliament to make themselves immune from law??? Nowhere, except in some kingdom, such looting and plundering happens.
Someone is annoyed because Madame Zia didn't add single MW to national grid. Although she made BD world champion in corruption many times.
Holy Fck 4.6B for 1200MW coal power plant.... Man JICA is milking Bangaldesh. Hasina is looting you. @Nilgiri @Khan_21
This includes cost of sea port and also the cost to tackle environmental issue. Also note that Japanese are known for the quality they provide not for being cheap.
 
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Holy Fck 4.6B for 1200MW coal power plant.... Man JICA is milking Bangaldesh. Hasina is looting you. @Nilgiri @Khan_21

"On completion, the coal-fired Matarbari plant will have an installed capacity of 1,200MW, with two units having capacity of 600MW each. The project also includes a deep-sea port near the plant for handling coal imports for the plant".
Above is an excerpt from the news. You may have overlooked the bold part that says the project includes also a deep sea port that will handle the import of high grade coal from overseas sources. Hope, you will understand that the seaport is not a free gift from Japan.
 
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I would like to add the price per kw/h for rental power plants is around twice BPDB run power plants - 16tk to 8k, and not 10-12 times as claimed. Also take the 1/3rd of government revenues being spent to subsidise rental power plants with a pinch of salt as well - any basic understanding of mathematics will make you realise that this is impossible.

another awami cheerleader trying to use grocery math to explain scale of ruling awami league looting. Offcourse, grocery level math and gossip can not fathom the reality. Luckily, Chairman of economics department of Dhaka University explained scale and method Awami looting from Bangladesh power sector.


Where has all the electricity gone?

M. A. Taslim
(The writer is Professor and Chairman, Department of Economics, University of Dhaka.)

There is something very puzzling about the electricity situation in the country. The government claims to have tremendously improved the situation during the last three years. But the severity of load shedding with the onset of summer conditions and the unprecedented decision to cut electricity supply to the nation's industries for 12 hours a day suggest otherwise.

Electricity shortages had reached a crisis proportion at the beginning of the tenure of this government. In order to solve the crisis quickly, the government adopted what appeared at the time to be a very convenient strategy, viz. private rental power plants. However, when implemented it turned out to be a very expensive and injudicious one which worsened the crisis. What was only an electricity crisis has now snowballed into a full blown budgetary crisis affecting the entire economy.

In order to make the rental plants sufficiently lucrative to the private players, the government had to provide sovereign guarantees regarding prices at which fuel oil would be supplied to the plant operators, and electricity would be purchased by the government.

Since very large gaps have emerged between the guaranteed prices and the prices paid or received by the government, the rental plants have to be provided with enormous amounts in subsidies. It is estimated that during the current fiscal year subsidy payments to the rental power plants might exceed Tk320 billion, i.e. about one-third of the total tax revenue of the government.

This enormous subsidy requirement has put the government finances in a quandary, which has been further intensified by the drying up of expected foreign funds due to difficulties on the foreign policy front. The government was forced to take the unprecedented step to shift part of the current subsidy to the next budget. This may open up a new door to further mismanagement of the economy.

The evolution of electricity supply over the last two decades is shown in the table below. The installed capacity (derated) of the country increased by fits and starts during 1990-91 and 2005-06 from 2398 megawatts to 5275 megawatts - an average annual growth of 5.8 per cent. During the same period peak hour generation of electricity increased from 1672 to 3812 megawatts. The average annual growth rate of peak hour generation was 6.1 percent suggesting a slight improvement in the efficiency with which installed capacity was converted into peak generation. No addition was made to the installed capacity during the following two years when the country was under a caretaker government, but peak hour generation increased by about 8 per cent during these two years suggesting further improvement in the efficiency of generation.

A breakdown of the increments in capacity by periods is also shown in the table below. The growth rate of installed capacity was 4.4 per cent during 1990-91 to 1995-96. The rate increased to 6.6 per cent during the five year period 1995-96 to 2000-01, but fell to 5.7 per cent during the next five year period 2000-01 to 2005-06. During the first 38 months of the current regime the installed capacity took a quantum leap - it increased by an annual average of 11.4 per cent. Actually most of the increase was achieved in one single year, i.e. 2010-11 when quick rental power plants made appearance.

The peak generation increased by 5.7 per cent during the first period and 7.8 per cent during the second period above. It fell to 4.7 per cent during the next five-year period. The remarkable thing is that during the current regime it increased by only 5.0 per cent. In other words, the quantum leap in installed capacity did not show up in the actual supply of electricity to the consumers.

To date the ground reality is that the advent of the quick rental power plants did not improve electricity generation. The rate of increase of peak generation during the current regime is actually lower than what it was during the first two periods mentioned above when electricity was generated the normal way at normal cost.

So where did all the electricity installed during the current regime disappear?

The answer probably lies in the marked drop in the efficiency of electricity generation, which declined from 77 percent in 2009-10 to only 63.6 per cent in fiscal year (FY) 2010-11. But why was there a sudden drop in efficiency? From various news reports it transpires that the reasons are: (1) there has been a reduction in the output of the older (mostly public) power plants, (2) power plants in general are operating below potential because of shortages of fuel or other reasons, and (3) the peak generation of the quick rental plants is less than their stated capacity.

According to Bangladesh Power Development Board (BPDB) website, the peak generation of PDB has dropped from more than 2555 MW on April 30, 2010 to only 1506 MW on February 29, 2012, i.e. a reduction of 41 per cent

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There seems to be little doubt that the advent of the rental power plants has taken a heavy toll on the public generation capacity. Private generation has discouraged the government from maintaining or augmenting public generation of electricity.

The reduction in the amount of electricity generation due to shortages of fuel at the power plants was 282 MW toward the end of April 2010, but rose to 1103 MW by the end of February 2012. It is obvious that some of the plants were not operating at their peak capacity due to inadequate supply of fuel. The government was not able to arrange adequate fuel to all plants. Apparently it did not fully appreciate the financing and logistics problems associated with the doubling of fuel demand in a single year due to the setting up of the fuel-guzzling rental power plants.
Economic management is widely believed to be the weakest link of the government. However, the ineptness with which the electricity issue has been handled is simply mind-boggling. The government seemed to have embarked on the rental plant road without a clear idea about its finances, logistics and consequences. For example, the government now claims that the blowout in subsidy is due to unforeseen increases in the prices of petroleum products and not due to policy lapses. It seems absurd that the government could have planned (in 2009 let us say) on the basis of current prices, which were clearly very low in the aftermath of the most severe worldwide recession since the Great Depression. Even a cursory glance at the time series of the monthly crude oil price would have revealed a clear upward trend since the beginning of the millennium such that the future price increases should have been anticipated and hedged against.
The government also claims that despite its 'praise-worthy success' in electricity generation, the situation has been made worse by the rising pace of electricity demand because of the rising prosperity of the people made possible by its policies. This certainly has an element of truth. The demand for every normal good and service, including electricity, rises with income. A good economic manager builds this into his forecast in order to ensure that future supply meets the increased demand. The above claim seems to suggest that either the government was unaware of this implication or it failed to accommodate the increased demand because of real resource constraints. If the latter is true one must question how the same government could have set the growth target at 7.0 per cent and above when it is unable to meet the energy demand at even 6.0 per cent plus growth rate.
Much hope was pinned on the government's resolve to quickly overcome power shortages. However, within three years the hopes have transmuted into frustration. In attempting to solve a nagging problem, the government seems to have created several more. The hapless people will be forced to bear the consequences of the blunder of their government; they have reasons to be angry.
[A note on semantics: Most of the new capacity has been installed by private companies, and not by the government. Indeed the capacity of the government power plants has declined. Of course, it is to the credit of the government that it has allowed greater space to the private sector. It should be borne in mind that when the contracts expire the rental plant capacity will disappear, unless the government has something else in mind.]

http://print.thefinancialexpress-bd.com/old/more.php?news_id=125664&date=2012-04-05
 
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