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Data from seized GPS set shows Uri attackers did travel from Pakistan - Indian source

Where is the data? who has seen it? who has tampered with it? Such social media rumors originating from Bharat by Bhartis have no credibility.

We reject and condemn these baseless and false allegations. India needs to admit it's wrong and racially biased policies and deal with the consequences of practicing these oppressive polices for the last 7 decades. Deal with your own problems instead of blaming it on others.


http://indianexpress.com/article/in...-datas-attackers-did-travel-from-pak-4404185/

New Delhi | Updated: December 1, 2016 5:25 pm

Last month, the Lashkar-e-Taiba admitted responsibility for the attack, naming one of the four terrorists involved in the operation as Muhammad Anas, who operated under the alias Abu Siraqa.

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During the attack on 12 Infantry Brigade HQ in Uri. (Express File Photo)

Forensic experts have established that the terrorists who attacked the 12 Infantry Brigade headquarters in Uri began their journey at a base in Pakistan, highly-placed sources familiar with the investigation have told The Indian Express.



The findings, the sources said, are based on digital data recovered from a severely-damaged Global Positioning System (GPS) unit recovered from the terrorists after the September 18 fighting that claimed their lives.

The data, recovered from the Garmin eTrex GPS unit carried by the terrorists, show the men travelled by road along the Muzaffarabad-Srinagar road towards the Line of Control on September 17, before beginning to hike into the mountains short of Chakothi, the official border point.

Following their penetration of the Line of Control south of Chakothi on the night of September 17, the men continued to walk eastward, traversing three ridgelines before climbing towards the village of Darah Goolan. They rested there before assaulting the 12 Infantry Brigade headquarters in the bowl below.

“It’s clear from the timeline of the terrorists’ movements, which we now have, that they were able to penetrate the three-tier defences on the Line of Control with relative ease, and evade Army patrols deeper inside Kashmir as well,” a source familiar with the case said. “This is an obvious source of concern.”

From data recorded on the set, investigators have determined it was first powered-up on September 4, a fortnight before the attack, at a known Lashkar-e-Taiba facility in the Leepa Valley — one of the areas later targeted by the Indian Army in the cross-Line of Control strikes in retaliation for Uri.

There has been no official investigation into how the four attackers succeeded in penetrating the Line of Control defences to cause the Indian Army’s worst single loss in the insurgency in Kashmir, but military sources said it is believed they used ladders to scale the barbed-wire fence.

GPS sets, which have a wide range of commercial applications, rely on radiowave signals from a network of satellites to guide users through unfamiliar terrain. The terrorists who attacked Uri were carrying two sets, but one was too badly damaged during the fighting for data to be recovered.

Last month, the Lashkar-e-Taiba admitted responsibility for the attack, naming one of the four terrorists involved in the operation as Muhammad Anas, who operated under the alias Abu Siraqa.

Posters that the organisation put up in his home town, Gujranwala, invited townspeople to join funeral prayers for “lion-hearted holy warrior Abu Siraqa Muhammad Anas, who sent 177 Hindu soldiers to hell at the Uri Brigade camp… and thus drank from the glass of martyrdom”.

National Investigation Agency detectives had also recovered syringes, painkillers, other medications and packets of ready-to-eat food bearing markings of Pakistani manufacturers from the terrorists killed in the operation.

Pakistan is yet to initiate criminal proceedings against either members of the organisation, or individuals involved in planning the operation.

In September, responding to a question, Pakistan Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan said “when Indians themselves have no proof, then what kind of action can Pakistan take? They have only levelled an accusation, and that too only to defame Pakistan”.

Indian government sources said that no information has emerged to corroborate claims that two Pakistani men who were later arrested were linked to the attack. The claims had formed the basis of a dossier handed over to Pakistan, asking for follow-up investigation by that country into the Uri attacks.

Faisal Husain Awan, a resident of Halka 4 in Potha Jandgran near the village of Koomi Kote, and Ahsan Khursheed, of Mohalla Kidri in the village of Khilayana Khurd in Muzaffarabad’s Hattian Bala tehsil, had been held on suspicion of aiding the four terrorists, involved in the Uri attack, cross the Line of Control.

Government sources said the two men, both students, are now believed to have strayed across, not an uncommon feature in the Uri area where populations reside close to the Line of Control. “No evidence has emerged so far that the men knew the attackers,” an official said.
 
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Fine then first ask these questions....
who could these militants be?? Oppressed Bharti minorities committed to revenge the brutal murder/rape of their siblings.
Where exactly this happened?? In illegally occupied territory under Bharti military
How it happened?? Don't you know?
and Why ?? Ask youself?
You will find your answers.
 
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Pakistans establishment believes in good terrorist and bad terrorist, good terrorist are termed as mujahideen and bad terrorist are the ones that attack Pakistan.
The Taliban were mujahideen when fighting the soviets but now when they are attacking Pakistan and America they are termed as terrorists.
So good terrorist turn bad at the moment they deviate from their given objective.
So please stop saying that pakistan does not support non state actors.

Why are you even bothering? its futile!

We Want Peace But Your Army and RAW Is Committing Acts Of War

Peace is far from your reach, please don't denigrate the word peace!

March 12, 1993 1993 Bombay bombings
December 22, 2000 2000 terrorist attack on Red For
October 1, 2001 2001 Jammu and Kashmir legislative assembly attack
December 13, 2001 2001 Indian Parliament attack in New Delhi
March 13, 2013 March 2013 Srinagar attack
20 March 2015 2015 Jammu attack
27 July 2015 2015 Gurdaspur attack in Dina Nagar, Gurdaspur district
2 January 2016 2016 Pathankot attack in Pathankot Air Force Station, Pathankot
25 June 2016 2016 Pampore attack
18 September 2016 2016 Uri attack
3 October 2016 2016 Baramulla attack
6 October 2016 2016 Handwara attack at rashtriya riffles camp
29 November 2016 , 2016 Nagrota attack .

It's a mere piece literature quote and unquote, according to the Pakistani's

Then why to blame Republic of India ?

need a scapesgoat

Where is the data? who has seen it? who has tampered with it? Such social media rumors originating from Bharat by Bhartis have no credibility.

We reject and condemn these baseless and false allegations. India needs to admit it's wrong and racially biased policies and deal with the consequences of practicing these oppressive polices for the last 7 decades. Deal with your own problems instead of blaming it on others.

The credibility of Pakistan is gospel? I am not expecting you to accept it, you would not do that even if a race of humanity is on the brink of extinction we all know that, As I said these threads are just a good excuse for India bashing, which needs to be taken with a cup of Chai every morning for you guys. No matter on what sincerity you can dissect the information provided, it will be mocked & ridiculed, so to my Indian members on here why are you even bothering in the first place.
carry on!
 
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Pakistanis: GIVE PROOF GIVE PROOF...........

Indians:Here's the proof.

Pakistanis: WE.........WON'T.............ACCEPT IT..............(body too used to propaganda and convulses from rejecting truth)

:lol:
 
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Nope he didn't .. The young boy turned to arms after his brothers being tortured and his old father being humiliated... And long list of episodes ...

He in his videos guarantees Hindus of safety and several times repeats that he is against the Indian occupational forces and not Indian citizens and no Indian citizens Hindu or otherwise will be harmed etc etc.




I can post a documentary made by Indian media where Kashmiri protestors allege that it's children who raise those flags to annoy India and nothing else ... Not a single Kashmiri has been caught with links to Isis.



Not really and it's not my movement rather Kashmiri movement !
You have denied the existance of such elements in south asia, this is wrong. Ignore this threat at your own peril.
Atleast your army knows clearly and has conducted the Zarb E Azab military campaing specifically to destroy such fanatic elements.
 
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Pakistanis: GIVE PROOF GIVE PROOF...........

Indians:Here's the proof.

Pakistanis: WE.........WON'T.............ACCEPT IT..............(body too used to propaganda and convulses from rejecting truth)

:lol:

Read my post above bro, i cited the same things, it's Ludacris and complete farcical.
 
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The entire point of using non-state actors is "plausible deniability". Countries have been playing this game for a long time, and it works because it's relatively easy to make sure there is no evidence left behind. Hence plausible deniability.

Yet somehow these attackers always seem to have their ID cards, passports, food and ammunition with markings pointing to a specific country, GPS devices, and everything else you could ask for.

Hmm.

You have never been on the receiving end have you???? All these logic will be interesting when you get some of these morons down your throat...... This is exactly the way West used to behave when India spoke about terrorism back in 90's.....
 
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You have never been on the receiving end have you???? All these logic will be interesting when you get some of these morons down your throat...... This is exactly the way West used to behave when India spoke about terrorism back in 90's.....

We have been on the receiving end for a long time already.

Don't you know the CIA already declassified their Secret War in Tibet? In the 1960's when the Tibetan Government in Exile was based in India (as it still is)?

The Tibetan Government in Exile has already openly stated that they carried out militant attacks in China in the 1960's, go and look for their own admission in the New York Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/1998/10/02/w...ai-lama-group-says-it-got-money-from-cia.html

All based out of Indian soil, just like when Indira Gandhi trained the LTTE.
 
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The term "terrorist" has been abused to the point it lost its original meaning, and it has become a meaningless term free for different interpretations by different people. "Your Terrorists, My Freedom Fighter" may mean the same thing.

If those militiamen were not deliberately targeting civilian and/or civilian structures, they should not be labelled as "terrorists". They were simply carrying out their version of "Surgical Strike" in a guerrilla war.
 
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We have been on the receiving end for a long time already.

Don't you know the CIA already declassified their Secret War in Tibet? In the 1960's when the Tibetan Government in Exile was based in India (as it still is)?

The Tibetan Government in Exile has already openly stated that they carried out militant attacks in China in the 1960's, go and look for their own admission in the New York Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/1998/10/02/w...ai-lama-group-says-it-got-money-from-cia.html

All based out of Indian soil, just like when Indira Gandhi trained the LTTE.

Yea yeah, Same way Chinese helping the Maoists and NE insurgents in India, Mate no one is saint here,
 
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Mate no one is saint here,

That's my entire point. It's geopolitics.

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Yea yeah, Same way Chinese helping the Maoists and NE insurgents in India, Mate no one is saint here,

Did China ever admit to helping India's insurgents?

Whereas the Tibetan Government in Exile openly admitted to the New York Times that they were sending militants into China in the 1960's, and the CIA declassified their entire report. All from Indian soil.

Not to mention Indira Gandhi training the LTTE, which led to the death of Rajiv Gandhi. Again, from Indian soil.
 
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You need to go back to your first post which i quoted, you will get the answer....

Nair, my view is that all governments in the world are equally bad. Anyone who claims that theirs is a saint is delusional.

My problem is with people who try to get on a moral high horse, especially when the facts point in the opposite direction.

Unfortunately that's exactly what the majority of Indian members here claim when they are arguing on this topic, especially with regards to China asking for more evidence on Mazhoor in the UN. That China is a terrorist supporter and India would never do anything like that (like the LTTE or anything).

Geopolitics is simple, countries work to further their own national interests. Trying to get on a moral high horse is not only pointless but utterly hypocritical.

Geopolitics has nothing to do with morality, a fact that Modi himself knows very well. Though from speaking to Indian members here, it's almost as if Modi is some kind of saint who has never done anything wrong.
 
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