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IAF deal contenders now eye Navy orders - Business News - News - MSN India
Some of the contenders for the $10-billion Indian Air Force have already started looking ahead in an effort to gauge the interest of the Indian Navy.
Talking to FE, Paul Hopkins, vice-president, business development, BAE Systems, disclosed that the Naval version of the Eurofighter Typhoon has been offered to the Indian Navy. "We have had a few meetings with the Indian Navy and there is an interest. "
"Ninety-five percent of it will be a common platform, with full capability," said Hopkins. "In India, there was only a request for information and we have sent it."
The Super Hornet F/A-18E/F from Boeing and French Rafale from Dassault are already operational on board US and French carriers, while the MiG-35 could be matched with the MiG-29K model the Indian Navy operates.
"Unlike the aircraft from other companies using catapult launch which requires significant strengthening of the landing gear and airframe, Typhoon could be considered for 'ski-jump' equipped carriers only. In case India acquires a third aircraft carrier then these aircraft can be on board,"explained Hopkins. A navalised Typhoon will be new-built aircraft, fitted with strengthened airframe and landing gear, he said.
According to the company executives, "In case we win the $10-billion 126 MMRCA deal, then India will have the indigenous skills to develop a navalised version," said the company official. Adding, "This is a perfect opportunity for the nation to add aircraft with both land and sea capabilities."
The company is competing with Boeing's F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet, Dassault Aviation SA's Rafale, Lockheed Martin Corp.'s F-16, Russia's MiG-35 and Saab AB's Gripen to supply jets to the south Asian country. India is expected to spend about $120 billion in the five years to 2017 to overhaul its armed forces.
Some of the contenders for the $10-billion Indian Air Force have already started looking ahead in an effort to gauge the interest of the Indian Navy.
Talking to FE, Paul Hopkins, vice-president, business development, BAE Systems, disclosed that the Naval version of the Eurofighter Typhoon has been offered to the Indian Navy. "We have had a few meetings with the Indian Navy and there is an interest. "
"Ninety-five percent of it will be a common platform, with full capability," said Hopkins. "In India, there was only a request for information and we have sent it."
The Super Hornet F/A-18E/F from Boeing and French Rafale from Dassault are already operational on board US and French carriers, while the MiG-35 could be matched with the MiG-29K model the Indian Navy operates.
"Unlike the aircraft from other companies using catapult launch which requires significant strengthening of the landing gear and airframe, Typhoon could be considered for 'ski-jump' equipped carriers only. In case India acquires a third aircraft carrier then these aircraft can be on board,"explained Hopkins. A navalised Typhoon will be new-built aircraft, fitted with strengthened airframe and landing gear, he said.
According to the company executives, "In case we win the $10-billion 126 MMRCA deal, then India will have the indigenous skills to develop a navalised version," said the company official. Adding, "This is a perfect opportunity for the nation to add aircraft with both land and sea capabilities."
The company is competing with Boeing's F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet, Dassault Aviation SA's Rafale, Lockheed Martin Corp.'s F-16, Russia's MiG-35 and Saab AB's Gripen to supply jets to the south Asian country. India is expected to spend about $120 billion in the five years to 2017 to overhaul its armed forces.
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Aero India 2011: Is India flying back into Russias arms? - India - DNA
India and Russia have finalised the Russian PAKFA aircraft —a Sukhoi-T50 fighter aircraft — as the base design model for their $6 billion Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) programme. This has not just dealt a death-knell to any prospects of India joining the American F-35 fifth generation fighter programme, but also indicates the nature of things to come on India’s final selection of the $10 billion deal to procure 126 Medium weight Multi Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCAs).
And it does not appear bright for the Americans who have come to Aero India 2011 with Boeing’s F/A 18 Super Hornet and Lockheed Martin’s F-16 IN Super Viper – seriously considered as the two of which one would finally clinch the costliest Indian defence deal till date, which, according to Air Chief PV Naik, would be signed by September this year.
Globally, defence experts and critics are reading too much into the absence of MiG-35 at Aero India 2011 from which it pulled out just a week ahead of the commencement of the event on February 9.
But the Russian delegations visiting Aero India 2011 in Bangalore have confirmed that though their contender for the MMRCA deal, MiG-35, was the only one from the six contenders to have pulled out from the air show, the MMRCA selection committee members as well as defence experts were witness to a series of demonstrations by MiG-35 which also carried out extreme manoeuvres in Indian as well as Russian conditions. Sources said the aerial manoeuvres demonstrated also involved “some which would not have been allowed to be carried out at any of the air shows” and that the Indian side were “thoroughly impressed”.
According to Mikhail Pogosyan, general director of Russia’s United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), MiG-35 has already conducted modifications as per requirement of the Indian Air Force (IAF), and Russia is ready for technology transfer as per Indian wishes.
Meanwhile, PV Deshmukh, managing director, MiG division, HAL, told DNA, that even as far as FGFA programme was concerned, there would be no problems about technology transfers with the Russians.
But he stopped short of putting anything on record about shape of things emerging if India were to select any of the American fighters which are competing for the MMRCA deal.
That is because the Americans, among the six contenders for the MMRCA deal, are the only ones feared to play havoc with technology transfer supports; and that’s a crucial issue as far as India is concerned.
India and Russia have finalised the Russian PAKFA aircraft —a Sukhoi-T50 fighter aircraft — as the base design model for their $6 billion Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) programme. This has not just dealt a death-knell to any prospects of India joining the American F-35 fifth generation fighter programme, but also indicates the nature of things to come on India’s final selection of the $10 billion deal to procure 126 Medium weight Multi Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCAs).
And it does not appear bright for the Americans who have come to Aero India 2011 with Boeing’s F/A 18 Super Hornet and Lockheed Martin’s F-16 IN Super Viper – seriously considered as the two of which one would finally clinch the costliest Indian defence deal till date, which, according to Air Chief PV Naik, would be signed by September this year.
Globally, defence experts and critics are reading too much into the absence of MiG-35 at Aero India 2011 from which it pulled out just a week ahead of the commencement of the event on February 9.
But the Russian delegations visiting Aero India 2011 in Bangalore have confirmed that though their contender for the MMRCA deal, MiG-35, was the only one from the six contenders to have pulled out from the air show, the MMRCA selection committee members as well as defence experts were witness to a series of demonstrations by MiG-35 which also carried out extreme manoeuvres in Indian as well as Russian conditions. Sources said the aerial manoeuvres demonstrated also involved “some which would not have been allowed to be carried out at any of the air shows” and that the Indian side were “thoroughly impressed”.
According to Mikhail Pogosyan, general director of Russia’s United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), MiG-35 has already conducted modifications as per requirement of the Indian Air Force (IAF), and Russia is ready for technology transfer as per Indian wishes.
Meanwhile, PV Deshmukh, managing director, MiG division, HAL, told DNA, that even as far as FGFA programme was concerned, there would be no problems about technology transfers with the Russians.
But he stopped short of putting anything on record about shape of things emerging if India were to select any of the American fighters which are competing for the MMRCA deal.
That is because the Americans, among the six contenders for the MMRCA deal, are the only ones feared to play havoc with technology transfer supports; and that’s a crucial issue as far as India is concerned.
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French Rafale is best at dogfight - The Times of India
BANGALORE: If there is one thing the French Rafales can do best, it's the dogfight. Small and menacing, the Rafale can plunge in and out rapidly for short distances, hitting the enemy aircraft swiftly.
Five French pilots have flown the Rafale all the way from France to Bangalore -- over 5,000 miles. "We flew in with three air-to-air refuellings. It was a beautiful flight with the two fighter aircraft following the fuel tanker in front. We had a stopover at UAE before coming to India. In all, we did the distance in 9 hours at around 550 km/hour," Rafale pilot Plu Vinage told The Times of India.
Vinage said the French Rafale has superb electronics and cockpit. "It can do a mach 1.8, 9G and 30-degree angle. It's a great aircraft to fly. Lovely handling and manoeuvrability."
How does he see the Rafale with the F-16, F-18 and Su-30? "The Rafale is light and is fantastic when it comes to fights in close proximity. The F-16, F-18 and Su-30 are heavier aircraft to fly. The Su-30 is really massive and requires a lot of power and fuel. But it seems like a very powerful aircraft."
Vinage says the strength of the Rafale lies in the dogfight. "We can hit swiftly when aircraft are close up. Weaponization is lethal. Not too many aircraft can do the dogfight as well as the Rafale."
De L'Air, Vinage's colleague, expresses not one iota of fear in flight. "We are well-trained and the aircraft are good. You have these two, where's the fear? We've been in this for years and over time, you get to understand the aircraft. You know what to do, but you also know what not to do."
Vinage said some of his best moments in flying were during the Indo-French exercises. "We went in with the Rafale and IAF came in with the Su-30. That's when we got a good look at the aircraft. The first thought that came to my mind was power -- Su-30 is about power and being powerful. But for the dogfight, I'd go for the Rafale."
The Rafale is more advanced than the Mirage 2000, which is also French. "The Rafale is a fourth-generation aircraft. It's fly-by-wire and has two engines. If one fails, it can fly on the other. It's a guarantee. The Mirage has been a single-engine aircraft. That's the crucial difference between the two French frontline strikers." PI
On Friday morning, the Rafale took to the skies in a burst of power, swerving to the right and inverting before taking off vertically into the high skies, leaving behind a trail of smoke. The fuel pipe on its cockpit giving it a rather masculine look, the Rafale is a French offering packing punch in the close-ups.
BANGALORE: If there is one thing the French Rafales can do best, it's the dogfight. Small and menacing, the Rafale can plunge in and out rapidly for short distances, hitting the enemy aircraft swiftly.
Five French pilots have flown the Rafale all the way from France to Bangalore -- over 5,000 miles. "We flew in with three air-to-air refuellings. It was a beautiful flight with the two fighter aircraft following the fuel tanker in front. We had a stopover at UAE before coming to India. In all, we did the distance in 9 hours at around 550 km/hour," Rafale pilot Plu Vinage told The Times of India.
Vinage said the French Rafale has superb electronics and cockpit. "It can do a mach 1.8, 9G and 30-degree angle. It's a great aircraft to fly. Lovely handling and manoeuvrability."
How does he see the Rafale with the F-16, F-18 and Su-30? "The Rafale is light and is fantastic when it comes to fights in close proximity. The F-16, F-18 and Su-30 are heavier aircraft to fly. The Su-30 is really massive and requires a lot of power and fuel. But it seems like a very powerful aircraft."
Vinage says the strength of the Rafale lies in the dogfight. "We can hit swiftly when aircraft are close up. Weaponization is lethal. Not too many aircraft can do the dogfight as well as the Rafale."
De L'Air, Vinage's colleague, expresses not one iota of fear in flight. "We are well-trained and the aircraft are good. You have these two, where's the fear? We've been in this for years and over time, you get to understand the aircraft. You know what to do, but you also know what not to do."
Vinage said some of his best moments in flying were during the Indo-French exercises. "We went in with the Rafale and IAF came in with the Su-30. That's when we got a good look at the aircraft. The first thought that came to my mind was power -- Su-30 is about power and being powerful. But for the dogfight, I'd go for the Rafale."
The Rafale is more advanced than the Mirage 2000, which is also French. "The Rafale is a fourth-generation aircraft. It's fly-by-wire and has two engines. If one fails, it can fly on the other. It's a guarantee. The Mirage has been a single-engine aircraft. That's the crucial difference between the two French frontline strikers." PI
On Friday morning, the Rafale took to the skies in a burst of power, swerving to the right and inverting before taking off vertically into the high skies, leaving behind a trail of smoke. The fuel pipe on its cockpit giving it a rather masculine look, the Rafale is a French offering packing punch in the close-ups.
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Government to sanction more fighter aircraft squadrons for IAF - India - DNA
Preparing itself for a two-front war scenario, the Indian Air Force (IAF) has sent a proposal to the defence ministry to increase its sanctioned fighter aircraft strength from 39.5 to 45 squadrons.
"We have proposed to increase our squadron strength from 39.5 to 45 squadrons and it is under consideration of the defence ministry," IAF sources told Press Trust of India in Bangalore.
The current squadron strength of the force is 33. A squadron comprises around 18 to 20 aircraft.
In view of increasing Chinese military deployments along the Line of Actual Control (LAC), the IAF has been strengthening its presence in the northeastern sector and has plans of deploying four squadrons of the air superiority Su-30 MKI fighter aircraft there by 2015.
Asked about the time-frame in which the IAF was looking to achieve these numbers, they said the future acquisitions would depend on the sanctions accorded to the service by the government.
Under its modernisation plans, air bases on the western front are also being equipped with modern airfield infrastructure and new fighter planes.
The IAF has plans of inducting more than 350 fighter jet aircraft by the end of this decade which includes the 126 multi-role combat planes (M-MRCA), over 160 new Su-30MKIs and over 140 indigenously-built Light Combat Aircraft (LCA).
The contract for the new Su-30s has already been signed and the orders for 126 M-MRCA are expected to be placed by the end of September this year.
Six aircraft including Russian MiG-35, American F-16 and F/A-18, Swedish Gripen, European Eurofighter and French Rafale are in the race for the M-MRCA contract, which is expected to cost US$11 billion.
The IAF is also phasing out its old Russian-origin fleet of MiG aircraft - the 21, 23 and 27 series. The oldest MiG-21 Type-77 is likely to be decommissioned by the end of next year.
Preparing itself for a two-front war scenario, the Indian Air Force (IAF) has sent a proposal to the defence ministry to increase its sanctioned fighter aircraft strength from 39.5 to 45 squadrons.
"We have proposed to increase our squadron strength from 39.5 to 45 squadrons and it is under consideration of the defence ministry," IAF sources told Press Trust of India in Bangalore.
The current squadron strength of the force is 33. A squadron comprises around 18 to 20 aircraft.
In view of increasing Chinese military deployments along the Line of Actual Control (LAC), the IAF has been strengthening its presence in the northeastern sector and has plans of deploying four squadrons of the air superiority Su-30 MKI fighter aircraft there by 2015.
Asked about the time-frame in which the IAF was looking to achieve these numbers, they said the future acquisitions would depend on the sanctions accorded to the service by the government.
Under its modernisation plans, air bases on the western front are also being equipped with modern airfield infrastructure and new fighter planes.
The IAF has plans of inducting more than 350 fighter jet aircraft by the end of this decade which includes the 126 multi-role combat planes (M-MRCA), over 160 new Su-30MKIs and over 140 indigenously-built Light Combat Aircraft (LCA).
The contract for the new Su-30s has already been signed and the orders for 126 M-MRCA are expected to be placed by the end of September this year.
Six aircraft including Russian MiG-35, American F-16 and F/A-18, Swedish Gripen, European Eurofighter and French Rafale are in the race for the M-MRCA contract, which is expected to cost US$11 billion.
The IAF is also phasing out its old Russian-origin fleet of MiG aircraft - the 21, 23 and 27 series. The oldest MiG-21 Type-77 is likely to be decommissioned by the end of next year.
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Fighter deal bigger: 126 will rise to 260 | Deccan Chronicle | 2011-02-13
Feb. 12: It is already known as the world’s biggest defence import deal in a long time. Now, it transpires, it is even bigger than that. The Indian Air Force is in the market to buy 126 Medium Multi-role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) from one of six foreign vendors bidding for the contract.
Over time, however, the IAF plans to buy 260 of them, Deccan Chronicle has learnt. That means, what has been talked about as a $10-12 billion deal will eventually fetch the winner of the contract close to $25 billion.
While the IAF floated a request for proposal (RFP) for only 126 fighters, sources privy to the armed forces’ Long-Term Integrated Perspective Plan said that that document puts the number of medium fighter jets the IAF needs at is 260. Ministry of defence officials, however, refused to confirm that there was any plan beyond the current RFP.
America’s Lockheed Martin (F-16) and Boeing (F/A-18), the 4-nation Eurofighter consortium (Typhoon), France’s Dassault (Rafale), Sweden's SAAB (Gripen) and Russia’s Mikoyan-Gureyvich (MiG-35) are locked in a high-intensity public relations as well as behind-the-scenes war to win the contract.
Air Chief P.V. Naik had on Thursday said that the Contract Negotiations Committee would achieve key milestones towards evaluating the packages offered by the various vendors in a week or two and that the contract would be ready for signing by September, except if "dissatisfied vendors put a spoke in the wheel".
That, sources said, looked almost inevitable given the size of the contract and what it could do to the fortunes of the winner. It could potentially keep alive assembly lines for some fighters from the 1970s/1980s vintage for another 30 years, ensuring that some 25,000 to 30,000 people would find employment in what are currently stricken economies in the US and Europe.
The sources also said that the eventual number of the frontline air superiority Sukhoi-30 MKIs from Russia in the IAF's fleet would also go up to 280.
The IAF would need these higher numbers of combat jets of different classes considering that it has to plan for threats coming from two fronts.
Feb. 12: It is already known as the world’s biggest defence import deal in a long time. Now, it transpires, it is even bigger than that. The Indian Air Force is in the market to buy 126 Medium Multi-role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) from one of six foreign vendors bidding for the contract.
Over time, however, the IAF plans to buy 260 of them, Deccan Chronicle has learnt. That means, what has been talked about as a $10-12 billion deal will eventually fetch the winner of the contract close to $25 billion.
While the IAF floated a request for proposal (RFP) for only 126 fighters, sources privy to the armed forces’ Long-Term Integrated Perspective Plan said that that document puts the number of medium fighter jets the IAF needs at is 260. Ministry of defence officials, however, refused to confirm that there was any plan beyond the current RFP.
America’s Lockheed Martin (F-16) and Boeing (F/A-18), the 4-nation Eurofighter consortium (Typhoon), France’s Dassault (Rafale), Sweden's SAAB (Gripen) and Russia’s Mikoyan-Gureyvich (MiG-35) are locked in a high-intensity public relations as well as behind-the-scenes war to win the contract.
Air Chief P.V. Naik had on Thursday said that the Contract Negotiations Committee would achieve key milestones towards evaluating the packages offered by the various vendors in a week or two and that the contract would be ready for signing by September, except if "dissatisfied vendors put a spoke in the wheel".
That, sources said, looked almost inevitable given the size of the contract and what it could do to the fortunes of the winner. It could potentially keep alive assembly lines for some fighters from the 1970s/1980s vintage for another 30 years, ensuring that some 25,000 to 30,000 people would find employment in what are currently stricken economies in the US and Europe.
The sources also said that the eventual number of the frontline air superiority Sukhoi-30 MKIs from Russia in the IAF's fleet would also go up to 280.
The IAF would need these higher numbers of combat jets of different classes considering that it has to plan for threats coming from two fronts.
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In conversation with Gripen fighter pilot - Brahmand.com
Q. What is your opinion about the Saab Gripen fighter aircraft compared to other fighters? For example the Eurofighter Typhoon, F-16, F/A-18, MiG-35 and Rafale who are also competing for the MMRCA contract.
A: The SAAB Gripen is a lightweight single engine multirole fighter aircraft manufactured by the Swedish aerospace company SAAB. The aircraft is the most technologically advanced fighter and is equipped with futuristic warfare technologies developed specifically for India. The Gripen NG has increased fuel capacity, more powerful powerplant, higher payload, upgraded avionics and other improvements. As India already has fighters like Su-30MKI, Gripen will only be an added advantage to the Indian Air Force....................................
Q. What is your opinion about the Saab Gripen fighter aircraft compared to other fighters? For example the Eurofighter Typhoon, F-16, F/A-18, MiG-35 and Rafale who are also competing for the MMRCA contract.
A: The SAAB Gripen is a lightweight single engine multirole fighter aircraft manufactured by the Swedish aerospace company SAAB. The aircraft is the most technologically advanced fighter and is equipped with futuristic warfare technologies developed specifically for India. The Gripen NG has increased fuel capacity, more powerful powerplant, higher payload, upgraded avionics and other improvements. As India already has fighters like Su-30MKI, Gripen will only be an added advantage to the Indian Air Force....................................
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i donno if i should consider link as genuine or a valid news source
IF true the i can only say WTFaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaakkkkkkkkkkk
where are they getting money from ???
minting in backyard ???
this is preposterous
Boeing Hire me for a HR job !!! pleaseeee
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Only time will tell if its true or not? For now it could be best said as prediction.
But looking at the way China is increasing its intrusion and defense over the borders, this could well be India's planned answer.
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260-126= 134...
134 would be Eurofighter typhoon
and 126 would be Rafale
134 would be Eurofighter typhoon
and 126 would be Rafale
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I don't think this number will increase to this size but still its not impossible, just look the number of Su30 mki that India purchased from Russia (270 Su30 mki).
If its true, then IAF should lay out the plan so that they could negotiate in all case. Also if the deal is going to be of this size we should consider buying cheaper fighters, so Gripen and F18 will be the ideal candidate. I am sorry F16 fits the bill, but to be frank LM lost the battle the moment they decided to sell F16 to PAF.
No platform would be single as IAF is trying to reduce the number of platforms so it will be either EF or Rafale.
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Another Fake news.. though the deal well definitely swell to 200 or 225 but it will happen after the first squadron is formed.. I doubt it will be purchased at one go.. the second deal will surely will have more advanced features with upgrades.. it will naturally happen at the end of the decade...
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260-126= 134...
134 would be Eurofighter typhoon
and 126 would be Rafale
No, they should NOT do that. Pick one, I wouldnt mind Griphen.
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