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The concern is that his article publishes mostly in Business Standard, and the readers of that is mostly high class.

I'm not too familiar with the Indian media, but I know that he is often at NDTV as well as a so called "expert" and that he is spreading a lot of nonsense in his blog as well. For me he is clearly a lobbyist for mainly US interests, but sadly sensational news sells in India.
 
The CFTs are being a pain, so for the time being you're going to have to make do with this.

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Awesome work Sir .I would love some work for LCA MK 2 or LCH if you got some spare time for us.:mps:
 
India's Fighter Jet Negotiations Stall Over Delivery Commitments
Jun. 16, 2014 -
By VIVEK RAGHUVANSHI

NEW DELHI— India’s $12 billion Medium Multi-role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) program has run into turbulence due to a disagreement over delivery commitments, according to an Indian Defence Ministry source.

The Indian Air Force has told the new government that Dassault Aviation, maker of the Rafale jet, and Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL), which will produce the aircraft in India, must put their delivery guarantees in writing before the MoD signs the contract, the MoD source said.

HAL is unwilling to give any written guarantee on the delivery schedule for the Indian-made Rafales, and instead wants Dassault to guarantee deliveries of the Indian-made aircraft, a condition the French have already rejected, the MoD source said.

The program’s request for proposal stipulates that the first 18 aircraft will be supplied by the vendor — Dassault — in fly-away condition and the remaining 108 aircraft will be manufactured — in this case, by HAL — through technology transfer. The delivery of the aircraft should begin three years after the contract is signed.

India gave Dassault “preferred bidder status” in 2012 for the $12 billion program.

The MMRCA contract negotiations have also been delayed because HAL has not finalized the cost of the India-made Rafale.

No date is available for when the final cost of the Indian-made Rafale will be provided to the MoD, according to a senior HAL official.

Signing the deal within six months is unlikely, the MoD source said.

Executives from Dassault were unavailable for comment.

MoD had set up four subcommittees in the run-up to the finalization of the MMRCA deal with Dassault. They are: Technology of Production; Offsets; Logistics; and Cost Negotiations.

While the committees on Logistics and Offsets are almost ready with their reports, the remaining two are delayed, the MoD source added.

A team from HAL representing various sections of the production department visited Dassault facilities in France last month to understand the production process as it attempts to calculate the cost of the Indian-made Rafale, the HAL official said.

The delays in finalizing the deal have not only pushed back delivery of the fighter, but also led to cost escalations of more than 30 percent, an Air Force official said.

The first request for information for the MMRCA was floated in December 2005; the request for proposals followed in August 2007.

Rafale beat the Eurofighter Typhoon only on the basis of cost, after only the two bidders were left in the field.

The F-16, F/A-18, Gripen and MiG-35 were ejected from competition after the flight trials in August 2011 and the cost was not taken into consideration

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India's Fighter Jet Negotiations Stall Over Delivery Commitments
Jun. 16, 2014 -
By VIVEK RAGHUVANSHI

NEW DELHI— India’s $12 billion Medium Multi-role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) program has run into turbulence due to a disagreement over delivery commitments, according to an Indian Defence Ministry source.

The Indian Air Force has told the new government that Dassault Aviation, maker of the Rafale jet, and Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL), which will produce the aircraft in India, must put their delivery guarantees in writing before the MoD signs the contract, the MoD source said.

HAL is unwilling to give any written guarantee on the delivery schedule for the Indian-made Rafales, and instead wants Dassault to guarantee deliveries of the Indian-made aircraft, a condition the French have already rejected, the MoD source said.

The program’s request for proposal stipulates that the first 18 aircraft will be supplied by the vendor — Dassault — in fly-away condition and the remaining 108 aircraft will be manufactured — in this case, by HAL — through technology transfer. The delivery of the aircraft should begin three years after the contract is signed.

India gave Dassault “preferred bidder status” in 2012 for the $12 billion program.

The MMRCA contract negotiations have also been delayed because HAL has not finalized the cost of the India-made Rafale.

No date is available for when the final cost of the Indian-made Rafale will be provided to the MoD, according to a senior HAL official.

Signing the deal within six months is unlikely, the MoD source said.

Executives from Dassault were unavailable for comment.

MoD had set up four subcommittees in the run-up to the finalization of the MMRCA deal with Dassault. They are: Technology of Production; Offsets; Logistics; and Cost Negotiations.

While the committees on Logistics and Offsets are almost ready with their reports, the remaining two are delayed, the MoD source added.

A team from HAL representing various sections of the production department visited Dassault facilities in France last month to understand the production process as it attempts to calculate the cost of the Indian-made Rafale, the HAL official said.

The delays in finalizing the deal have not only pushed back delivery of the fighter, but also led to cost escalations of more than 30 percent, an Air Force official said.

The first request for information for the MMRCA was floated in December 2005; the request for proposals followed in August 2007.

Rafale beat the Eurofighter Typhoon only on the basis of cost, after only the two bidders were left in the field.

The F-16, F/A-18, Gripen and MiG-35 were ejected from competition after the flight trials in August 2011 and the cost was not taken into consideration

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India's Fighter Jet Negotiations Stall Over Delivery Commitments | Defense News | defensenews.com
Old news The negotiations are already made with Hal 70% and Dassault 30% guarantee for Work in Indian Manufactured Rafale's
 
Structural deficiencies of DRDO stalling the progress.
It can be corrected by 100% FDI in defence BAE And others Firms are Ready for this program now All Depends on the new MOD.
 
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BAE Systems awarded Brimstone 2 onto Typhoon study contract

BAE Systems has been awarded an initial study contract, valued at £5 million by the UK Ministry of Defence to evaluate the integration of the MBDA Brimstone 2 air-to-ground precision weapon with the Typhoon aircraft.

Work is currently underway at BAE Systems' Warton site in Lancashire to assess the aerodynamic properties of carrying the weapon through a series of wind tunnel tests. Alongside delivering an effective route to Brimstone 2 integration for the UK Royal Air Force (RAF) by 2018, the study is also set to deliver wider benefits through the exploration of a common launcher approach which could also be used for other multiple weapons stores such as SPEAR 3.

The Brimstone 2 weapon will add to the swing-role capability of the Typhoon aircraft. Brimstone 2 is effective against the most challenging, high speed and manoeuvring targets over land and sea. As a low collateral, close air support weapon it is already combat proven in Afghanistan and Libya by the RAF.
The study contract will transition the Dual Mode Brimstone capability that is combat proven on Tornado GR4 to Typhoon utilising the Brimstone 2 missile.

Mark Bowman, BAE Systems' Chief Test Pilot said: “With a proven track record on RAF Tornados, the Brimstone 2 weapon offers uncompromising precision and a flexible capability that meets the emerging threats of modern warfare. The Typhoon pilot will be able to confidently engage a wide range of target types including fast moving vehicles. When integrated Brimstone 2 will be another significant development step for Typhoon, enhancing the aircraft’s credentials and relevancy going forward.”

ADS Advance - BAE Systems awarded Brimstone 2 onto Typhoon study contract
 
Rumored to be signed at the end of this, or early next year



That's what MMRCA is about.



Not sure when we had this discussion, but that still remains a fact!

Sir, but LCA delays are not acceptable,

can you tell whether this scenario will work.

IAF can induct LCA Mark-1 whenever it is ready, but instead of Mark II, they can go for a foreign fighter jet, because I dont have a hope of seeing LCA Mark 2 before 2020. We can buy around 50 Mig-35 from Russia, I hope Mig - 35 will be Operational by 2017 and there are reports that Russian Air force is planning to induct Mig-35. Logistics and spares also will not be a issue because India already flies Mig-29 ( IAF: 60 Indian navy : 40). Instead LCA Mark 2 can be diverted to Indian Navy avation wing to replace their Harrier fighter Jets.
 
Sir, but LCA delays are not acceptable,

can you tell whether this scenario will work.

IAF can induct LCA Mark-1 whenever it is ready, but instead of Mark II, they can go for a foreign fighter jet, because I dont have a hope of seeing LCA Mark 2 before 2020. We can buy around 50 Mig-35 from Russia, I hope Mig - 35 will be Operational by 2017 and there are reports that Russian Air force is planning to induct Mig-35. Logistics and spares also will not be a issue because India already flies Mig-29 ( IAF: 60 Indian navy : 40). Instead LCA Mark 2 can be diverted to Indian Navy avation wing to replace their Harrier fighter Jets.

Not at all good idea, better buy more rafales or lease Gripens
 
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Please, I need to make you a request. If is possible, please send me a private message.
 
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