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Seems to be F5 and dependent upon how TARAMMAA goes
TARAMMAA is part of F4

It is already a success as F4 shedule is clear and followed without problem.



What's the point of doing that when you have a capable platform, i.e. Brahmos and NG-ARM combo?

Also, does anyone has a list of block 4.2 and 5 from the French MoD, with updated specs India would pay for separately?
For F4 this is what we can easily found (sorry, it's in french) :

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For F5 : nothing officially leaked.
The french forumers think about conformal radars, Of course GaN everywhere. Add on on frame to improbe stealth. New weapons (nuc missile AS4G , successor of Exocet and SCALP)
 
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I don't know.
It seems nearly official that SH18 failed technically.
The very last rumors is that an annoumcement is to be made in march following the trip of macron in India. Is it just for 26 Rafale M ? Is it for 26 M and 36 new for IAF? other?
I am praying it's 26 + 4 (twin seaters) for IN & 38 for IAF.
🙏:pleasantry:
 
I am praying it's 26 + 4 (twin seaters) for IN & 38 for IAF.
🙏:pleasantry:

That is unlikely. The IAF had the option of curtailing the MRFA contest and going with more Rafales instead. But they have chosen to continue with the 114 MRFA only, the RFP for which hasn't even been released as yet.

What will be signed (if at all) will be most likely just 26 Rafale Ms with 22 single seaters and 4 Rafale twin seaters to be based at INS Hansa (Goa) or INS Dega (Vizag) given that INS Vikrant is to be based at Vizag.
 
India: the Rafale Marine close to embarking on the aircraft carrier INS Vikrant
@BON PLAN how reliable is this report?
I don't know.
It seems nearly official that SH18 failed technically.
The very last rumors is that an annoumcement is to be made in march following the trip of macron in India. Is it just for 26 Rafale M ? Is it for 26 M and 36 new for IAF? other?
Thanks.
Rafale is just the right fit as most vets are still in love with the Alize's.
All the best to team Vikrant.

 
That is unlikely. The IAF had the option of curtailing the MRFA contest and going with more Rafales instead. But they have chosen to continue with the 114 MRFA only, the RFP for which hasn't even been released as yet.

What will be signed (if at all) will be most likely just 26 Rafale Ms with 22 single seaters and 4 Rafale twin seaters to be based at INS Hansa (Goa) or INS Dega (Vizag) given that INS Vikrant is to be based at Vizag.
Yes, that seems to be the most likely scenario.
 

Order intake, deliveries and backlog of new aircraft as at December 31, 2022​

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Order intake, deliveries and backlog in number of new aircraft at 31 December 2022 (data not audited by the Statutory Auditors)

AIRCRAFT ORDERED IN 2022​

92 Rafale Export were ordered (80 United Arab Emirates, 6 Greece, 6 Indonesia), compared to 49 (37 Rafale Export and 12 Rafale France) in 2021.
64 Falcon(*) have been ordered, compared to 51 in 2021.
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CCS likely to seal Rafale M deal today

NEW DELHI: The Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) headed by Prime Minister Narendra Modi is likely to clear the multi-billion dollar acquisition of 26 Rafale Marine fighters at its meeting on Wednesday.

Sources said that the Indian Navy has expressed its preference for the French fighter aircraft Rafale Marine over US’ F-18 Super Hornet. A proposal for the purchase of Rafale Marine has been sent to the CCS.

The Indian Air Force has already acquired 36 Rafale fighters. The commonality of the fleet and the resultant savings on training, repairs and maintenance have reportedly tilted the scale in favour of Dassault’s Rafale Marine. The two versions of the aircraft have over 80 per cent common features.

These aircraft will be deployed on India’s indigenously developed aircraft carrier INS Vikrant. According to sources, the Ministry of Defence has worked out a comprehensive contract, including Performance-based Logistics, which will ensure that the Original Equipment Manufacturer will be responsible for the overall maintenance of the aircraft and the supply of spares. Dassault will also build a maintenance facility for the Rafales on INS Vikrant, besides one in Goa. The company will train the naval aviation ground crew, besides training the pilots.

The fighters will be fully loaded with all maritime systems, including the maritime search radar that is capable of detecting submarines and warships in the sea. The price of the aircraft has not been revealed yet, but sources said it will be considerably lower than the IAF version. The government has decided to make the acquisition through an inter-governmental agreement rather than going in for an open tender.

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Indonesia Rafale deal TOT

Operation Maintenance = Squadron level techniciants
Medium scale MRO = Air Force Depo
Major scale MRO = Indonesian Aerospace ( system integration (including weapons integration), avionics, engine, airframe, and others)

Rafale team visited PT Nusantara Turbin (Indonesian Aerospace subsidiary company for turbin related business)

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Indonesia Rafale deal TOT

Operation Maintenance = Squadron level techniciants
Medium scale MRO = Air Force Depo
Major scale MRO = Indonesian Aerospace ( system integration (including weapons integration), avionics, engine, airframe, and others)

Rafale team visited PT Nusantara Turbin (Indonesian Aerospace subsidiary company for turbin related business)

160662420_825450571441364_2278253311054524495_n.jpg

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The rest of 36 Rafale planes + 2 Scorpene Submarine (high possibility Indonesia will chose Naval Group over German sub) is likely being signed when Jokowi visit France this year

Preparation for state visit underway, maybe some strategic cooperation will be signed as well

Intelligent Military Satelite from Airbus is likely being signed as well. Finance Ministry has approved the acquisition

Weapon for Rafale is also likely signed during Jokowi visit
 
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