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[air marshal]

 

[BON PLAN]

On Rafale and deadly Panther choppers, India gets a huge offer from France

France has accepted the Indian request that defence technologies shared with the Indian military should not be given to New Delhi’s adversaries. France’s relationship has already reached a new low with Pakistan after PM Imran Khan attacked President Macron.

www.hindustantimes.com

On Rafale and deadly Panther choppers, India gets a huge offer from France

France has accepted the Indian request that defence technologies shared with the Indian military should not be given to New Delhi’s adversaries. France’s relationship has already reached a new low with Pakistan after PM Imran Khan attacked President Macron.

India and France have decided to intensify defence cooperation with Paris offering to shift 100 per cent assembly line for Panther medium utility helicopters as well as 70 per cent of the assembly line for Rafale fighters under “Make in India” rubric with full transfer of technology, people familiar with the matter said on Saturday.
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It is understood that France will no longer either supply or upgrade French weapon platforms or ammunition with Pakistan. This includes repairs of Mirage III/V fighters as well as Augusta submarines. The same thumb rule will apply to Turkey too, whose authoritarian leader R Erdogan had gone out of his way to launch vitriolic attacks on President Macron.
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Paris has offered help in development of engine for twin engine LCA or AMCA with the Defence Research and Development Organization (DRDO) as well as making Rafale fighter engines (M-88) under the “Make in India” initiative.

 

[Yasser76]

On Rafale and deadly Panther choppers, India gets a huge offer from France

France has accepted the Indian request that defence technologies shared with the Indian military should not be given to New Delhi’s adversaries. France’s relationship has already reached a new low with Pakistan after PM Imran Khan attacked President Macron.

www.hindustantimes.com

On Rafale and deadly Panther choppers, India gets a huge offer from France

France has accepted the Indian request that defence technologies shared with the Indian military should not be given to New Delhi’s adversaries. France’s relationship has already reached a new low with Pakistan after PM Imran Khan attacked President Macron.

India and France have decided to intensify defence cooperation with Paris offering to shift 100 per cent assembly line for Panther medium utility helicopters as well as 70 per cent of the assembly line for Rafale fighters under “Make in India” rubric with full transfer of technology, people familiar with the matter said on Saturday.
...
It is understood that France will no longer either supply or upgrade French weapon platforms or ammunition with Pakistan. This includes repairs of Mirage III/V fighters as well as Augusta submarines. The same thumb rule will apply to Turkey too, whose authoritarian leader R Erdogan had gone out of his way to launch vitriolic attacks on President Macron.
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Paris has offered help in development of engine for twin engine LCA or AMCA with the Defence Research and Development Organization (DRDO) as well as making Rafale fighter engines (M-88) under the “Make in India” initiative.

This is just coming out in the open with what has been going on for years. Thankfully Pakistan Armed Forces have almost zero reliance on any French tech and of course the reason why Agostas were upgraded in Turkey.

On another note not a good look for France for it's reliability as an arms supplier if it tries to pick and choose it's clients depending on how much they spend.

 

[The Maverick]

This is just coming out in the open with what has been going on for years. Thankfully Pakistan Armed Forces have almost zero reliance on any French tech and of course the reason why Agostas were upgraded in Turkey.

On another note not a good look for France for it's reliability as an arms supplier if it tries to pick and choose it's clients depending on how much they spend.

money talks
politics is a dirty word
and India is good at both
that's why we have even the Saudis and and uae dancing to indian tunes

money talks
politics is a dirty word
and India is good at both
that's why we have even the Saudis and and uae dancing to indian tunes

French weapons are world class just ask your mirage pilots or navy which deem.agosta the most potent weapons in your navy.
another door shut

 

[Yasser76]

money talks
politics is a dirty word
and India is good at both
that's why we have even the Saudis and and uae dancing to indian tunes

French weapons are world class just ask your mirage pilots or navy which deem.agosta the most potent weapons in your navy.
another door shut

Firstly no one denies French weapons are very good, point out where I said otherwise
Secondly Saudi and UAE do not dance to India's tune, they have enough wealth, India is a handy oil market for them, nothing more, nothing less. Militarily India is insignificant in GCC region.
Of course money talks, point I was making is that at least other potential buyers can now see the French for what they truly are.

 

[BON PLAN]

This is just coming out in the open with what has been going on for years. Thankfully Pakistan Armed Forces have almost zero reliance on any French tech and of course the reason why Agostas were upgraded in Turkey.

On another note not a good look for France for it's reliability as an arms supplier if it tries to pick and choose it's clients depending on how much they spend.

India can rely on France for 60 years, and proved id during the nuc ban and Kargil.
Pak is a too near support of islam integrism. The link are broken. Definitively.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

India can rely on France for 60 years, and proved id during the nuc ban and Kargil.
Pak is a too near support of islam integrism. The link are broken. Definitively.

Welcome you false flag Indian

 

[Yasser76]

India can rely on France for 60 years, and proved id during the nuc ban and Kargil.
Pak is a too near support of islam integrism. The link are broken. Definitively.

Unsure what you mean by "Islam integrism", but for sure France certainly one of the most Islamaphobic countries in Europe, if not the world, Lets also remember it was your countrymen who were happily helping Nazis throw Jews into camps 80 years ago, so really suggest we do not go down the religious route.

France changes its mood depending on who has cash there and than, lets not pretend it is anything less. In 50s it was Tanks and Jets to Indian, than 60s/70s it was Mirages, Pumas and Subs to Pakistan, than in 80s it was Mirage 2000, Jaguars to India, than in 90s it was Mirages Upgrades and Agosta 90B to Pakistan, and now it is Rafales and Scorpees to India. In a few years you will change again, that is the only certainty around amrs sales polices.

Selling the Indians a 50 year old Chopper design and the production to it is indeed a master stroke, even as China already builds a version of the chopper and Pakistan Navy use it too. Hopeful you will milk the Indians for every dollar like you usually do.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Unsure what you mean by "Islam integrism", but for sure France certainly one of the most Islamaphobic countries in Europe, if not the world, Lets also remember it was your countrymen who were happily helping Nazis throw Jews into camps 80 years ago, so really suggest we do not go down the religious route.

France changes its mood depending on who has cash there and than, lets not pretend it is anything less. In 50s it was Tanks and Jets to Indian, than 60s/70s it was Mirages, Pumas and Subs to Pakistan, than in 80s it was Mirage 2000, Jaguars to India, than in 90s it was Mirages Upgrades and Agosta 90B to Pakistan, and now it is Rafales and Scorpees to India. In a few years you will change again, that is the only certainty around amrs sales polices.

Selling the Indians a 50 year old Chopper design and the production to it is indeed a master stroke, even as China already builds a version of the chopper and Pakistan Navy use it too. Hopeful you will milk the Indians for every dollar like you usually do.

He is not French bro but most probably false flag Indian, pretending to be French

 

[BON PLAN]

Welcome you false flag Indian

see my avatar in a french forum.

L'Inde

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[White and Green with M/S]

see my avatar in a french forum.

L'Inde

www.air-defense.net

LOL this is not the proof that you're French

 

[Nasr]

French weapons are world class just ask your mirage pilots or navy which deem.agosta the most potent weapons in your navy.

French weapons are indeed world class, so are the Russian, the Chinese, the German and the american weapons .... what is not world class, is the indians operating them.

As for your "another door shut", the proverbial door has been shutting on us for the last 73 years, bud. Yet we have nukes, we have Block-52 Vipers, we have Erieyes, we have land/sea/air launched Cruise Missiles, we have MIRV Missiles .... you keep living in your parallel universe, while we will keep knocking those shut doors, down!

 

[Yasser76]

There was FAR LESS jews send in camps from France than from Netherlands, Poland, East country. Your history lessons are wrong. Typical french bashing.
There are more muslim people inFrance than in any other european country. Your history lessons are wrong.
Islam integrism is the nazism of the 21st century.

with more that 4000 messages.... you are pulling my leg Bro.
You also see my city : Vendôme, near Blois. 100km south of Paris.

Just because you helped murder slightly less Jews than other countries you think it's fine?

Having large number of Muslims does not make France a great place for them to live, Nazi Germany had a large number of Jews. You cannot seem to argue logically and you are also insulting my religion.

OK, Mods, we happy with comparing Islamism to Nazism? Can we ban this PoS?

 

[BON PLAN]

French weapons are indeed world class, so are the Russian, the Chinese, the German and the american weapons .... what is not world class, is the indians operating them.

As for your "another door shut", the proverbial door has been shutting on us for the last 73 years, bud. Yet we have nukes, we have Block-52 Vipers, we Erieyes, we have land/sea/air launched Cruise Missiles, we have MIRV Missiles .... you keep living in your parallel universe, while we will keep knocking those shut doors, down!

without China what are you?
Alone.

 

[Yasser76]

without China what are you?
Alone.

Turkey, Italy, Spain, Sweden,Netherlands, Brazil are all countries that have sold Pakistan major weapons systems in last 2 years or so.