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Wow rafale in Indian colours
My Lord what a sight

We need to order more I want to see at least 36 more ideally 54 more to give us 5 squadrons
 
Beautiful aircraft.

Congratulations to my Indian counterparts. Will see you folks in the battle grounds.

Yes indeed, one of the most beautiful fighter planes ever designed. A real work of art.

I didn't get the "will see you folks in the battle grounds" bit.
 
This means post 2025 I see another order for rafale but it could be on 18 to 36 fighters to arrive by 2028-2029.
18 is far too few.
IAF will never forget the Mirage 2000 lesson : too small fleet of a versatile and usefull plane. Rafale is even better, with more versatility and more disponibility.

The next order will be for 36 min, and a follow on of 18 to 36.
So as to have 2 sqd in front of Pakistan, and 2 to 3 in font of China.
It's my opinion since 2016.

Add some for navy ?

I agree. Please DO NOT CRASH them. It will deny the PAF the opportunity and glory of shooting these f*ckers down !!!!!!!
In your wet dreams.
 
The next order will be for 36 min, and a follow on of 18 to 36.
So as to have 2 sqd in front of Pakistan, and 2 to 3 in font of China.
It's my opinion since 2016.

Add some for navy ?


In your wet dreams.

You hope .. in YOUR wet dreams !!!
 
The next order will be for 36 min, and a follow on of 18 to 36.
So as to have 2 sqd in front of Pakistan, and 2 to 3 in font of China.
It's my opinion since 2016.
Makes imminent sense, both Ambala and Kalaikunda can house 2 Sqn each.
Fingers crossed for the 114 Jet deal.
 
I agree. Please DO NOT CRASH them. It will deny the PAF the opportunity and glory of shooting these f*ckers down !!!!!!!

Only in your dreams. With Meteor missiles on board, it is the F-16s and JF-17s that'll need to save their asses.
 
Only in your dreams. With Meteor missiles on board, it is the F-16s and JF-17s that'll need to save their asses.
Not if f16c get aim120c-9 or aim120d
Or if jf17 gets the PL 15(if not already)

Still 75 f16s out ranges anything india has..and had been for last 10 years.
 
Not if f16c get aim120c-9 or aim120d
Or if jf17 gets the PL 15(if not already)

Still 75 f16s out ranges anything india has..and had been for last 10 years.

Neither the AIM-120C7 (there is no C9 variant) nor the AIM-120D have the range of the Meteor.

the AIM-120D (or C8 as it was formerly called) is basically a development of the AIM-120C with a two-way data link, more accurate navigation using a GPS-enhanced IMU, an expanded no-escape envelope, and improved HOBS (high off-boresight) capability.

It doesn't have additional range.

PL-15 is a somewhat unknown entity. It could pose a big threat or maybe not, we just don't know. Fanboy stuff is not equal to authentic data, which we get for Meteor, AMRAAM, etc. Still, the PL-15 hasn't been integrated with the JF-17, although it might well be eventually. In the JF-17's case, the Block 3's AESA radar will be a must to be able to use the claimed 150 km range of the PL-15. Neither Block 1 nor 2 will be able to use the PL-15 to it's full range anyway since the radar won't be able to detect out to that distance.

And the F-16s won't out-range Indian BVRAAMs for long. the Astra Mk1 itself has 100 km range, has two-way datalink and is supposedly "contemporary" as the IAF calls it, which means it matches the performance of the AIM-120C7 and possibly even AIM-120D.

There is a dual-pulse Astra Mk2 in the works, which will be longer ranged, with a max range touted to be ~125 km with the added benefit of a dual pulse motor that allows for more energetic end-game maneuvering.
 
Neither the AIM-120C7 (there is no C9 variant) nor the AIM-120D have the range of the Meteor.

the AIM-120D (or C8 as it was formerly called) is basically a development of the AIM-120C with a two-way data link, more accurate navigation using a GPS-enhanced IMU, an expanded no-escape envelope, and improved HOBS (high off-boresight) capability.

It doesn't have additional range.

PL-15 is a somewhat unknown entity. It could pose a big threat or maybe not, we just don't know. Fanboy stuff is not equal to authentic data, which we get for Meteor, AMRAAM, etc. Still, the PL-15 hasn't been integrated with the JF-17, although it might well be eventually. In the JF-17's case, the Block 3's AESA radar will be a must to be able to use the claimed 150 km range of the PL-15. Neither Block 1 nor 2 will be able to use the PL-15 to it's full range anyway since the radar won't be able to detect out to that distance.

And the F-16s won't out-range Indian BVRAAMs for long. the Astra Mk1 itself has 100 km range, has two-way datalink and is supposedly "contemporary" as the IAF calls it, which means it matches the performance of the AIM-120C7 and possibly even AIM-120D.

There is a dual-pulse Astra Mk2 in the works, which will be longer ranged, with a max range touted to be ~125 km with the added benefit of a dual pulse motor that allows for more energetic end-game maneuvering.
Do you have google
 
It doesn't have additional range.
maybe a little bit more, mainly by new trajectory in upper atmosphere. But it's just a small increase.

Not if f16c get aim120c-9 or aim120d
Or if jf17 gets the PL 15(if not already)

Still 75 f16s out ranges anything india has..and had been for last 10 years.
This area, if true, will end in july...

Metor is said to have 3 times the NEZ of an AMRAAM C7.

End of the game.
 
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