Dalit Women fined for entering Hindu temple

[Makaramarma]

The biggest farud/lies are found in fabricated Hindu puranas. written to justify Aryan Hindu Brahmin dominance over native- Tamils aka Dravidian. Chera (or Kerala) was 1 of the 3 ancient Tamil kingdoms (which is also mentioned in the Ramayana) , some of the post sangam Tamil literature were wriitten by Cheras

Ilango Adigal was a Chera prince from the 2nd century AD/CE, who is the author of Silappathikaram, one of the five great epics of Tamil literature Ilango was the brother of Kodungallur or Muziris based Chera king Cheran Chenguttuvan or Cheralathana Chenguttavan.

Ilango Adigal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why can't a Chera Prince not become a Tamil Scholar ?

When Europeans can become Sanskrit scholars, Mallu's can't learn Tamil ? What kind of foolish logic is that ?

 

[manlion]

You are no different from Manlion with your lies and sly propaganda.

Kalari was introduced and taught by the Namboodris in Kerala who were taught this art by parashuram himself and passed on from generation to generation. When the need grew it was taught to others including Thiyya's, Nairs, christians, Muslims etc. especially since knowledge cannot be locked up for ever. It even reached China via the Bodhidharma. That does not mean it did not come from the Namboodris.

I suggest you take your Hate and Bigotry elsewhere and stop following me around like a dog sprouting propaganda.

The Travancore Kings or the last of the CHERAS are still taught Kalari by the Namboodri Illam called the "kallanthaattil Idamana Illam" or "Kallanthaattil Gurukulam Mattam".
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The historian Elamkulam Kunjan Pillai attributes the birth of kalarippayattu to an extended period of warfare between the Cheras and the Cholas in the 11th century CE.

Origins of Kalarippayattu - The Full Wiki

 

[mooppan]

You are no different from Manlion with your lies and sly propaganda.

Kalari was introduced and taught by the Namboodris in Kerala who were taught this art by parashuram himself and passed on from generation to generation. When the need grew it was taught to others including Thiyya's, Nairs, christians, Muslims etc. especially since knowledge cannot be locked up for ever. It even reached China via the Bodhidharma. That does not mean it did not come from the Namboodris.

I suggest you take your Hate and Bigotry elsewhere and stop following me around like a dog sprouting propaganda.

The Travancore Kings or the last of the CHERAS are still taught Kalari by the Namboodri Illam called the "kallanthaattil Idamana Illam" or "Kallanthaattil Gurukulam Mattam".

hehehe..get your facts right...
It has nothing to do with Namboodiris..
Kalari was widely practised martial art technique in Ancient Tamilakkam(Tamilnadu,Kerala,South Karnataka,Parts of Ceylon)...There is a martial art in Srilanka similar to Kalaripayattu locally known as 'Angampora'(Angam-Body,Pora-war/fight) practised by Sinhalese..
Even our Onam was widely celebrated in Ancient Tamilnadu..

 

[manlion]

Why can't a Chera Prince not become a Tamil Scholar ?

When Europeans can become Sanskrit scholars, Mallu's can't learn Tamil ? What kind of foolish logic is that ?

You are distracting the discussion by resorting to silly retorts thus missing the bigger picture, Namboodari were a late edition to Kerala who were responsible for Aryanisation of Kerala by introducing a new language Malayalam. Elango's history predates Aryan Namboodari invasion of Chera nadu, it has nothing to do with his Tamil scholarship as it was his mother tongue

Malayalam most likely originated from Middle Tamil (Sen-Tamil) in the 6th century.[9] An alternative theory proposes a split in even more ancient times

Malayalam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Soulspeek]

It is not as simple as that. You have to be a dalit to understand the gravity of the situation.

This guy even got a like makes me wonder retardness level of those community people & no wonder their world is burning due to hatred toward others.All dalits are Hindus & few converting incident happens when paid by Mullahs or political parties.Nothing else.

 

[manlion]

@manlion you take races and castes too seariously

so says a Sinhala who never questions the authencity of the Sinhala Buddhist fairy tale Mahavamsa written in Pali, an alien language

So did the Sinhalas descend from a Bangla lion or Demalas (Tamils) should either be killed or driven of out Lanka as they pose a threat to the survival of Sinhala Theravada Buddhism - all gems from the "non violent' Buddhist text - Mahavamsa

 

[Makaramarma]

The historian Elamkulam Kunjan Pillai attributes the birth of kalarippayattu to an extended period of warfare between the Cheras and the Cholas in the 11th century CE.

Origins of Kalarippayattu - The Full Wiki

Only because he uses the Sangam ligature as his reference point. The same way you use Wiki as your reference point. That does not mean Kalari started only when Sangam litrature was written.

By that same logic, Veda's started only when Sanskrit was given a written script which was only 2000 years back.

hehehe..get your facts right...
It has nothing to do with Namboodiris..
Kalari was widely practised martial art technique in Ancient Tamilakkam(Tamilnadu,Kerala,South Karnataka,Parts of Ceylon)...There is a martial art in Srilanka similar to Kalaripayattu locally known as 'Angampora'(Angam-Body,Pora-war/fight) practised by Sinhalese..
Even our Onam was widely celebrated in Ancient Tamilnadu..

LOL......you are pathetic.

Why not just say Kalari came from China since Kung fu is practised in China ?

What has Onam celebration ANYTHING to do with kalari ?

 

[Soulspeek]

If it comes to the individual's capability & merit, no doubt a Janitor can not be equal to an Ambani or President of India but nobody can discriminate on the basis of his birth. If an individual is capable, he can and should compete against Ambanis and Birlas.

The greatest hero of Mahabharata Epic was Karna. He was considered to be a dalit and hence never given his due. That is why I give respect to Duryodhana, the so called villian of Mahabharata. He made him his friend and an equal. He was also made a King so that casteist Pandavas dont call him Sut-putra (Son of a Charioteer).

People are not free to choose their Varnas for Gharwapasi. They are given the same case which their ancestors were. Do you know why most of them even converted in first place? They converted to escape the caste discrimination.

How the RSS ghar wapsi programme actually hurts Hindus
Out of my mind: Being a Hindu | The Indian Express


The day I start seeing newspaper matrimonials without mention of caste then I will be assured that India has moved forward towards its golden age.

HOW can a Janitor be equal in status to Ambani or the President of India ?

People are free to choose their Varna after Gharwapsi so they can always choose to be a Brahmin.

 

[Makaramarma]

You are distracting the discussion by resorting to silly retorts thus missing the bigger picture, Namboodari were a late edition to Kerala who were responsible for Aryanisation of Kerala by introducing a new language Malayalam. Elango's history predates Aryan Namboodari invasion of Chera nadu, it has nothing to do with his Tamil scholarship as it was his mother tongue

Malayalam most likely originated from Middle Tamil (Sen-Tamil) in the 6th century.[9] An alternative theory proposes a split in even more ancient times

Malayalam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why are you discussing origins of Malayalam ? Malayam is nothing but bastardised Sanskrit. The Bastardization is due to the introduction of Tamil, a language from its immediate geographical neighbourhood.

When the Aryan Invasion itself has been proved to be Rubbish, what is the point of wasting my time with your foolish claims ? You need to wrestle with a fellow pig called moopan. He complements you and I cam sure you will be great friends.

 

[Paranoid Android]

It is not as simple as that. You have to be a dalit to understand the gravity of the situation.

LMAO I am a sc..Don't teach me...I have never felt that way.

 

[Soulspeek]

LOL....

Then you are one of the "fortunate" SC out of millions.

LMAO I am a sc..Don't teach me...I have never felt that way.

 

[Makaramarma]

If it comes to the individual's capability & merit, no doubt a Janitor can not be equal to an Ambani or President of India but nobody can discriminate on the basis of his birth. If an individual is capable, he can and should compete against Ambanis and Birlas.

People are not free to choose their Varnas for Gharwapasi. They are given the same case which their ancestors were. Do you know why most of them even converted in first place? They converted to escape the caste discrimination.

How the RSS ghar wapsi programme actually hurts Hindus
Out of my mind: Being a Hindu | The Indian Express

The day I start seeing newspaper matrimonials without mention of caste then I will be assured that India has moved forward towards its golden age.

I frankly do not give a fcuk about your personal views on how people should marry, live their lives or if India can or cannot move to "golden age". Stop sharing such rubbish with me, I am not your shrink.

When Dalits or Muslims or Christians have NO CASTE, how can they choose their caste of their ancestors you moron

If you are talking about people converting to escape caste, why do people in europe or Africa or China convert ?

It is not as simple as that. You have to be a dalit to understand the gravity of the situation.

ARE YOU A DALIT ?

 

[Soulspeek]

No. I am not. Is it a crime to sympathize with the dalits on the issue of untouchability.

I frankly do not give a fcuk about your personal views on how people should marry, live their lives or if India can or cannot move to "golden age". Stop sharing such rubbish with me, I am not your shrink.

When Dalits or Muslims or Christians have NO CASTE, how can they choose their caste of their ancestors you moron

If you are talking about people converting to escape caste, why do people in europe or Africa or China convert ?



ARE YOU A DALIT ?

 

[Makaramarma]

No. I am not. Is it a crime to sympathize with the dalits on the issue of untouchability.

............... and you still said this

" You have to be a dalit to understand the gravity of the situation. "

 

[Soulspeek]

We need a Social Reformer like Raja Ram Mohan Roy urgently.